Browser Compatability is a joke / When ninja coder do website development
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This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:
**Methodologies We Practise**Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
I can see your pain, and I hope for your sake this wasn't a programming question. If nothing else helps, you could make the pages depend on the browser used. That is what I did http://www.perceler.com/tools1.php[^] :)
Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
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I can see your pain, and I hope for your sake this wasn't a programming question. If nothing else helps, you could make the pages depend on the browser used. That is what I did http://www.perceler.com/tools1.php[^] :)
Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
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No its not a programming question. It is just a rant to get my frustration out.
Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
That's OK then; from the browser list you have shown, I expect to see you more often ... :)
Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
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This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:
**Methodologies We Practise**Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
This is a programming question. Why not post it in the "Web Development Forum."
"Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted line. He caught every other fish." Steven Wright
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This is a programming question. Why not post it in the "Web Development Forum."
"Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted line. He caught every other fish." Steven Wright
Strange. Questions are usually followed by a question mark, and are usually statements that make some request for information. Just sayin' it doesn't seem like a question to me.
-SK Genius
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Strange. Questions are usually followed by a question mark, and are usually statements that make some request for information. Just sayin' it doesn't seem like a question to me.
-SK Genius
Vehicle Simulation Demo - New and Improved!
I see this as an implicit question, or a question with a veneer of personal commentary and venting of frustration, and I base that conclusion on the fact the message includes all the 'ingredients' of a question: code and specifics about why certain code does not visually appear correctly in specific browsers. The absence of the glyph "?" does not seem important here. As the old saw says: "if it walks like a duck ..." Furthermore, if I really believe that the OP may actually get some timely help by posting his technical problem on an appropriate CP forum ... which I do ... well, I leave it up to you to judge the nature and quality of my 'intention.' However, you and I may disagree, but I will still respect you in the morning :) best, Bill
"Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted line. He caught every other fish." Steven Wright
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I see this as an implicit question, or a question with a veneer of personal commentary and venting of frustration, and I base that conclusion on the fact the message includes all the 'ingredients' of a question: code and specifics about why certain code does not visually appear correctly in specific browsers. The absence of the glyph "?" does not seem important here. As the old saw says: "if it walks like a duck ..." Furthermore, if I really believe that the OP may actually get some timely help by posting his technical problem on an appropriate CP forum ... which I do ... well, I leave it up to you to judge the nature and quality of my 'intention.' However, you and I may disagree, but I will still respect you in the morning :) best, Bill
"Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted line. He caught every other fish." Steven Wright
But a question also implies a possible answer. The only real answer is to kill the client, which is not a programming solution, therefore it can't be a programming question. :)
So I rounded up my camel Just to ask him for a smoke He handed me a Lucky, I said "Hey, you missed the joke." My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
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This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:
**Methodologies We Practise**Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
Silverlight works the same on all browser. Just saying...
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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Silverlight works the same on all browser. Just saying...
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
Super Lloyd wrote:
Silverlight works the same on all browser.
Perhaps, if you have eaten enough fairy-dust by moonbeams, or just come back from the big tent where the kool-aid is being passed out. best, Bill
"Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted line. He caught every other fish." Steven Wright
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This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:
**Methodologies We Practise**Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
virang_21 wrote:
Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning.
Are you charging him by the hour? I had a client that tried this and once he saw the invoice for all of the little peculiar nit picks, the invoice brought the nit picking to a swift end :rolleyes:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:
**Methodologies We Practise**Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
First, is that actually index-1.asp? :doh: Second, either give him a simple example to show it is impossible so he cuts you some slack, or tell him you've got to scrap the crap html and build something reasonable. Anything else and you are in a world of hurt.
Curvature of the Mind now with 3D
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But a question also implies a possible answer. The only real answer is to kill the client, which is not a programming solution, therefore it can't be a programming question. :)
So I rounded up my camel Just to ask him for a smoke He handed me a Lucky, I said "Hey, you missed the joke." My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
You're BOTH wrong. It should be in Coding Horrors. The fact that I'm typing this while watching the RWC Final at the same time pays testament to both my typing skills and the depth of both my addictions....
Smokie, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. www.geticeberg.com http://melpadden.wordpress.com
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First, is that actually index-1.asp? :doh: Second, either give him a simple example to show it is impossible so he cuts you some slack, or tell him you've got to scrap the crap html and build something reasonable. Anything else and you are in a world of hurt.
Curvature of the Mind now with 3D
The problem is I know him personally well and he is extremely self-centric and he thinks that I don't know that and he is the one who build that website so I don't want to disturb that muddy water. Well I finally sent him email saying i am not good enough to make it work and he got to find someone to do it. :)
Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
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Super Lloyd wrote:
Silverlight works the same on all browser.
Perhaps, if you have eaten enough fairy-dust by moonbeams, or just come back from the big tent where the kool-aid is being passed out. best, Bill
"Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted line. He caught every other fish." Steven Wright
Is it one of those strangely spread misconception? Have you got a particular example from your personal experience in mind? I worked with Silverlight for 2 years, interchangeably with IE, and Chrome (and my colleagues sometimes with Firefox), never had any browser issue, to the extent we didn't even think of it...
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.
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This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:
**Methodologies We Practise**Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
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This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:
**Methodologies We Practise**Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
Did you try melting the server down and telling the client there is no hope?
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virang_21 wrote:
Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning.
Are you charging him by the hour? I had a client that tried this and once he saw the invoice for all of the little peculiar nit picks, the invoice brought the nit picking to a swift end :rolleyes:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
So much for job security.
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So much for job security.
In this particular case, it was not. It was a fixed rate project that had to be done by a very short deadline. In fact, all of the little nit pickings caused the project not to be delivered on time because of the time spent dealing with the nit picks. The client was told the project should have been completed in full then go back over the finer little details, but they didn't see it that was, and thus failed their own project.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham