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  • S Super Lloyd

    Silverlight works the same on all browser. Just saying...

    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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    Super Lloyd wrote:

    Silverlight works the same on all browser.

    Perhaps, if you have eaten enough fairy-dust by moonbeams, or just come back from the big tent where the kool-aid is being passed out. best, Bill

    "Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted line. He caught every other fish." Steven Wright

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    • V virang_21

      This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:

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      virang_21 wrote:

      Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning.

      Are you charging him by the hour? I had a client that tried this and once he saw the invoice for all of the little peculiar nit picks, the invoice brought the nit picking to a swift end :rolleyes:

      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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      • V virang_21

        This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:

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        First, is that actually index-1.asp? :doh: Second, either give him a simple example to show it is impossible so he cuts you some slack, or tell him you've got to scrap the crap html and build something reasonable. Anything else and you are in a world of hurt.

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        • G GenJerDan

          But a question also implies a possible answer. The only real answer is to kill the client, which is not a programming solution, therefore it can't be a programming question. :)

          So I rounded up my camel Just to ask him for a smoke He handed me a Lucky, I said "Hey, you missed the joke." My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.

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          Mel Padden
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          You're BOTH wrong. It should be in Coding Horrors. The fact that I'm typing this while watching the RWC Final at the same time pays testament to both my typing skills and the depth of both my addictions....

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          • A Andy Brummer

            First, is that actually index-1.asp? :doh: Second, either give him a simple example to show it is impossible so he cuts you some slack, or tell him you've got to scrap the crap html and build something reasonable. Anything else and you are in a world of hurt.

            Curvature of the Mind now with 3D

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            The problem is I know him personally well and he is extremely self-centric and he thinks that I don't know that and he is the one who build that website so I don't want to disturb that muddy water. Well I finally sent him email saying i am not good enough to make it work and he got to find someone to do it. :)

            Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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            • B BillWoodruff

              Super Lloyd wrote:

              Silverlight works the same on all browser.

              Perhaps, if you have eaten enough fairy-dust by moonbeams, or just come back from the big tent where the kool-aid is being passed out. best, Bill

              "Last year I went fishing with Salvador Dali. He was using a dotted line. He caught every other fish." Steven Wright

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              Super Lloyd
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              Is it one of those strangely spread misconception? Have you got a particular example from your personal experience in mind? I worked with Silverlight for 2 years, interchangeably with IE, and Chrome (and my colleagues sometimes with Firefox), never had any browser issue, to the extent we didn't even think of it...

              A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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              • V virang_21

                This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:

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                For browser compatibility, I never leave empty td tags. At least put an encoded space between them and see if it helps.

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                • V virang_21

                  This is my Rant ..... I have got a client's website that he created with so many tables and inline css that it makes me feel sick to "make it look good" in all browsers. I am on the verge of giving up. Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning. The mountain of task that I have it to make it look it perfect in : IE 7,8,9 FF 4,5,6,7 Safari Chrome iPhone Here is one example. There is a table with background image which serves as a underline for links and to space up links to align with the underlines in the image the height parameter is used with table cells. Now every browser is moody to display it when there is a cell with no content but just a height property. Fixing it for one browser making it break in another and it is making me :mad:

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                  Did you try melting the server down and telling the client there is no hope?

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                  • P Paul Conrad

                    virang_21 wrote:

                    Client is so peculiar that he is even noticing a pixel difference in things not aligning.

                    Are you charging him by the hour? I had a client that tried this and once he saw the invoice for all of the little peculiar nit picks, the invoice brought the nit picking to a swift end :rolleyes:

                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                    James Lonero
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                    So much for job security.

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                    • J James Lonero

                      So much for job security.

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                      Paul Conrad
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                      In this particular case, it was not. It was a fixed rate project that had to be done by a very short deadline. In fact, all of the little nit pickings caused the project not to be delivered on time because of the time spent dealing with the nit picks. The client was told the project should have been completed in full then go back over the finer little details, but they didn't see it that was, and thus failed their own project.

                      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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