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  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

    Can This Hacker Really Fake Windows Update?[^] "In a statement on pastebin, he bragged that, "Microsoft's statement about Windows Update and that I can't issue such update is totally false! I already reversed ENTIRE windows update protocol, how it reads XMLs via SSL…You see? I'm so smart, sharp, dangerous, powerful, etc. huh?" We can hope that his hacking skills are as bad as his writing skills, but we shouldn't depend on it." Indeed. Bad news if this is true.

    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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    Albert Holguin
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    Unfortunately, only time will tell...

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    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

      Can This Hacker Really Fake Windows Update?[^] "In a statement on pastebin, he bragged that, "Microsoft's statement about Windows Update and that I can't issue such update is totally false! I already reversed ENTIRE windows update protocol, how it reads XMLs via SSL…You see? I'm so smart, sharp, dangerous, powerful, etc. huh?" We can hope that his hacking skills are as bad as his writing skills, but we shouldn't depend on it." Indeed. Bad news if this is true.

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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      Nish Nishant
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      Anyone who can actually do anything like that would never brag about it like a 12 year old kid.

      Regards, Nish


      My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics

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        Unfortunately, only time will tell...

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        Nish Nishant
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        This time seems to be a bit of a teller! :-D

        Regards, Nish


        My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics

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        • N Nish Nishant

          Anyone who can actually do anything like that would never brag about it like a 12 year old kid.

          Regards, Nish


          My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          Actually that's absolutely not true. Much of the reason these "haxors" do what they do is for the notoriety.

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            Actually that's absolutely not true. Much of the reason these "haxors" do what they do is for the notoriety.

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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            Nish Nishant
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            That’s mostly the low skilled script kiddies who rarely do any real damage.

            Regards, Nish


            My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              Can This Hacker Really Fake Windows Update?[^] "In a statement on pastebin, he bragged that, "Microsoft's statement about Windows Update and that I can't issue such update is totally false! I already reversed ENTIRE windows update protocol, how it reads XMLs via SSL…You see? I'm so smart, sharp, dangerous, powerful, etc. huh?" We can hope that his hacking skills are as bad as his writing skills, but we shouldn't depend on it." Indeed. Bad news if this is true.

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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              Lost User
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              Someone may be able to do it, but I'm betting it isn't that comodoidiot.

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                Can This Hacker Really Fake Windows Update?[^] "In a statement on pastebin, he bragged that, "Microsoft's statement about Windows Update and that I can't issue such update is totally false! I already reversed ENTIRE windows update protocol, how it reads XMLs via SSL…You see? I'm so smart, sharp, dangerous, powerful, etc. huh?" We can hope that his hacking skills are as bad as his writing skills, but we shouldn't depend on it." Indeed. Bad news if this is true.

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                Chris Meech
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                I'm more in agreement with the comment that suggests the entire article is simply to help market anti-malware software. :doh: Articles that fortell of a doom and gloom scenario and only privide hearsay evidence to back up the claim are worth less than the toilet paper JSOP uses after a righteous dump. :)

                Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                  I'm more in agreement with the comment that suggests the entire article is simply to help market anti-malware software. :doh: Articles that fortell of a doom and gloom scenario and only privide hearsay evidence to back up the claim are worth less than the toilet paper JSOP uses after a righteous dump. :)

                  Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  You may be correct. I've heard it theorized that the very people that sell us anti-virus software have a separate "secret" division creating the malware. Seems a bit far-fetched and paranoid to me, but planting such "marketing" stories is not beyond the pale.

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                  • C Chris Meech

                    I'm more in agreement with the comment that suggests the entire article is simply to help market anti-malware software. :doh: Articles that fortell of a doom and gloom scenario and only privide hearsay evidence to back up the claim are worth less than the toilet paper JSOP uses after a righteous dump. :)

                    Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                    AspDotNetDev
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                    Yeah, the end of the article dropped a not-so-subtle hint: "Whether or not he could do what he claims, you need very good malware protection, such as Trend Micro's Titanium." :wtf:

                    Somebody in an online forum wrote:

                    INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.

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                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                      You may be correct. I've heard it theorized that the very people that sell us anti-virus software have a separate "secret" division creating the malware. Seems a bit far-fetched and paranoid to me, but planting such "marketing" stories is not beyond the pale.

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                      Single Step Debugger
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                      This will be not only stupid, but also cannot be kept in secret for a long time. I there is a “grey area” it will be more the other way around. The fucking “hackers” (may a chainsaw hack through their collective ass) creates a malware/virus and the sell the virus definition to the antivirus labs.

                      There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                        This will be not only stupid, but also cannot be kept in secret for a long time. I there is a “grey area” it will be more the other way around. The fucking “hackers” (may a chainsaw hack through their collective ass) creates a malware/virus and the sell the virus definition to the antivirus labs.

                        There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        Hence the paranoid comment. I think we'd have heard of the sale of virus definitions if that had occurred.

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                          Can This Hacker Really Fake Windows Update?[^] "In a statement on pastebin, he bragged that, "Microsoft's statement about Windows Update and that I can't issue such update is totally false! I already reversed ENTIRE windows update protocol, how it reads XMLs via SSL…You see? I'm so smart, sharp, dangerous, powerful, etc. huh?" We can hope that his hacking skills are as bad as his writing skills, but we shouldn't depend on it." Indeed. Bad news if this is true.

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                          Richard Andrew x64
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                          Even if he does have the protocol, he (likely) does not have the private Microsoft key used for signing the packages. I think this might keep us safe for a while.

                          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Anyone who can actually do anything like that would never brag about it like a 12 year old kid.

                            Regards, Nish


                            My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics

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                            jschell
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                            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                            Anyone who can actually do anything like that would never brag about it like a 12 year old kid.

                            I am rather certain that absolutely no one is a genius at everything. Nor does high intelligence detract from negative traits. Thus someone who is that smart might also be arrogant enough to suppose that they are too smart to be caught by any legal entity.

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                            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                              You may be correct. I've heard it theorized that the very people that sell us anti-virus software have a separate "secret" division creating the malware. Seems a bit far-fetched and paranoid to me, but planting such "marketing" stories is not beyond the pale.

                              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                              Mycroft Holmes
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                              I don't think they need to resort to actually creating any malware etc, they only need to publicise. They certainly have departments that do that very well.

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                You may be correct. I've heard it theorized that the very people that sell us anti-virus software have a separate "secret" division creating the malware. Seems a bit far-fetched and paranoid to me, but planting such "marketing" stories is not beyond the pale.

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                austin hamman
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                                theorized? at least one anti-malware company(HB gary) was recently proved to do just that.

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                                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                  Can This Hacker Really Fake Windows Update?[^] "In a statement on pastebin, he bragged that, "Microsoft's statement about Windows Update and that I can't issue such update is totally false! I already reversed ENTIRE windows update protocol, how it reads XMLs via SSL…You see? I'm so smart, sharp, dangerous, powerful, etc. huh?" We can hope that his hacking skills are as bad as his writing skills, but we shouldn't depend on it." Indeed. Bad news if this is true.

                                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                  weberrich
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                                  The issue may pertain if it possible to hack, windows update site. I suppose not, as the SSL via XML and the certificate may be the issue. Is it possible to fake what a user sees through a windows update? Well, consider this do a little phishing, and change the windows update shortcut on the start menu? Possible? Might be a **spoiler** but not necessarily, it will take a little doing and ole script kiddies well at least give em a challenge...

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