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  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

    What's with all the black icons. I wish they'd add some color since I can't tell quickly just by looking at the shadows.

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    Andrei Bozantan
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    The icons look somehow like the Windows Phone monochrome icons. It seems that it is a new fashion.

    If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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    • A Andrei Bozantan

      First, the good things: - the "comfortable" display density is comfortable :) - the new bigger buttons look nice - everything seems to be more clear - the possibility to better customize the left side is welcome Next, the bad things: - the site is noticeable slower especially when scrolling (using Firefox 7) - there is much less vertical space when reading the mail content - there are some inconsistent design elements: the compose button, the search button, the behavior of "Tasks" button and tasks and UI And of course I could add more subjective opinions about other small design issues. And with this I try to say that it is impossible to make a design for such a complex application that will please all the users. I think that a better approach will be to create some kind of user interface API using CSS and javascript (something like GreaseMonkey, but officially supported) and let third party developers to create different public designs for GMail and other Google products. What do you think about this and which things do you love and hate in the new GMail's UI?

      If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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      Slacker007
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      I love Gmail but I agree, they really need to make some design changes and give the ability for 3rd party programmers to do their thing.

      Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
      "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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        I love Gmail but I agree, they really need to make some design changes and give the ability for 3rd party programmers to do their thing.

        Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
        "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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        hairy_hats
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        Can't you modify it with Greasemonkey?

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        • H hairy_hats

          Can't you modify it with Greasemonkey?

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          Bassam Abdul Baki
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          Grease won't help, and don't call him a monkey.

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          • A Andrei Bozantan

            First, the good things: - the "comfortable" display density is comfortable :) - the new bigger buttons look nice - everything seems to be more clear - the possibility to better customize the left side is welcome Next, the bad things: - the site is noticeable slower especially when scrolling (using Firefox 7) - there is much less vertical space when reading the mail content - there are some inconsistent design elements: the compose button, the search button, the behavior of "Tasks" button and tasks and UI And of course I could add more subjective opinions about other small design issues. And with this I try to say that it is impossible to make a design for such a complex application that will please all the users. I think that a better approach will be to create some kind of user interface API using CSS and javascript (something like GreaseMonkey, but officially supported) and let third party developers to create different public designs for GMail and other Google products. What do you think about this and which things do you love and hate in the new GMail's UI?

            If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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            srinivas vadepally
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            yeah,it's good, need more attraction...

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            • A Andrei Bozantan

              First, the good things: - the "comfortable" display density is comfortable :) - the new bigger buttons look nice - everything seems to be more clear - the possibility to better customize the left side is welcome Next, the bad things: - the site is noticeable slower especially when scrolling (using Firefox 7) - there is much less vertical space when reading the mail content - there are some inconsistent design elements: the compose button, the search button, the behavior of "Tasks" button and tasks and UI And of course I could add more subjective opinions about other small design issues. And with this I try to say that it is impossible to make a design for such a complex application that will please all the users. I think that a better approach will be to create some kind of user interface API using CSS and javascript (something like GreaseMonkey, but officially supported) and let third party developers to create different public designs for GMail and other Google products. What do you think about this and which things do you love and hate in the new GMail's UI?

              If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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              Henry Minute
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              I haven't looked at the GMail site yet because I use Thunderbird as a desktop Email Client. I am currently running two machines. One on XP and one on Weven. The version of T'bird is the same on both and yet on the XP one I get nice buttons with colourful icons whilst on Weven they are monochrome. I realize that you are probably viewing GMail on a browser but wondered if there might be some connection.

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                What's with all the black icons. I wish they'd add some color since I can't tell quickly just by looking at the shadows.

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                Lost User
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                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                What's with all the black icons. I wish they'd add some color since I can't tell quickly just by looking at the shadows.

                I prefer the monochrome icons. Color icons tend to clash with various backgrounds / themes. P.S. I feel the same way about OS X Lion vs. Snow Leopard. Much prefer the monochrome icons prevalent in Lion. In fact, I even have high-res b/w photographs for my wallpapers. Hmmm... maybe I'm just anti-color? ;P

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                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                  What's with all the black icons. I wish they'd add some color since I can't tell quickly just by looking at the shadows.

                  I prefer the monochrome icons. Color icons tend to clash with various backgrounds / themes. P.S. I feel the same way about OS X Lion vs. Snow Leopard. Much prefer the monochrome icons prevalent in Lion. In fact, I even have high-res b/w photographs for my wallpapers. Hmmm... maybe I'm just anti-color? ;P

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                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                  At the very least, use gray for a third color option.

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                  • A Andrei Bozantan

                    First, the good things: - the "comfortable" display density is comfortable :) - the new bigger buttons look nice - everything seems to be more clear - the possibility to better customize the left side is welcome Next, the bad things: - the site is noticeable slower especially when scrolling (using Firefox 7) - there is much less vertical space when reading the mail content - there are some inconsistent design elements: the compose button, the search button, the behavior of "Tasks" button and tasks and UI And of course I could add more subjective opinions about other small design issues. And with this I try to say that it is impossible to make a design for such a complex application that will please all the users. I think that a better approach will be to create some kind of user interface API using CSS and javascript (something like GreaseMonkey, but officially supported) and let third party developers to create different public designs for GMail and other Google products. What do you think about this and which things do you love and hate in the new GMail's UI?

                    If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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                    Jason Hooper
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                    I don't know, I've been using the new layout for a long time and am used to it by now :) But really, we've just returned to the other side of this perpetual alternation between sparse and dense layouts. This is supposed to look more "modern", but in a year will look too plain and will be all bejumbled up to some new, modern dense layout. Then a year later that will seem old and we'll be back to more whitespace and less fluff. Ad nauseum.

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                    • A Andrei Bozantan

                      First, the good things: - the "comfortable" display density is comfortable :) - the new bigger buttons look nice - everything seems to be more clear - the possibility to better customize the left side is welcome Next, the bad things: - the site is noticeable slower especially when scrolling (using Firefox 7) - there is much less vertical space when reading the mail content - there are some inconsistent design elements: the compose button, the search button, the behavior of "Tasks" button and tasks and UI And of course I could add more subjective opinions about other small design issues. And with this I try to say that it is impossible to make a design for such a complex application that will please all the users. I think that a better approach will be to create some kind of user interface API using CSS and javascript (something like GreaseMonkey, but officially supported) and let third party developers to create different public designs for GMail and other Google products. What do you think about this and which things do you love and hate in the new GMail's UI?

                      If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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                      _beauw_
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                      Andrei Bozantan wrote:

                      the site is noticeable slower especially when scrolling (using Firefox 7)

                      The inability to scroll in reasonable time is a trend I notice more and more each day on a variety of sites. I think it relates to the fact that so much continues happening in the browser after the page has been downloaded. I blame Flash (and its imitators), "AJAX" (another browser-intensive technology), and the increasing tendency for pages to include video advertisements for this slowdown. However, I'm still not sure how accurate my assessment is... all I notice is that for some reason, scrolling has become agonizingly slow. Maybe something about compliance with the latest markup standards plays a role as well. I do miss the original Web request/response model, where one downloaded a page and then it basically sat in the browser in static form until the user clicked a link or a "submit" button. Yes, there was DHTML, the DOM, and scripting back then, but for the most part the browser was able to render static text and images (which is its strength). There were more postbacks in that era, but once the postback completed, one could at least scroll up and down with reasonable ease.

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                      • A Andrei Bozantan

                        First, the good things: - the "comfortable" display density is comfortable :) - the new bigger buttons look nice - everything seems to be more clear - the possibility to better customize the left side is welcome Next, the bad things: - the site is noticeable slower especially when scrolling (using Firefox 7) - there is much less vertical space when reading the mail content - there are some inconsistent design elements: the compose button, the search button, the behavior of "Tasks" button and tasks and UI And of course I could add more subjective opinions about other small design issues. And with this I try to say that it is impossible to make a design for such a complex application that will please all the users. I think that a better approach will be to create some kind of user interface API using CSS and javascript (something like GreaseMonkey, but officially supported) and let third party developers to create different public designs for GMail and other Google products. What do you think about this and which things do you love and hate in the new GMail's UI?

                        If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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                        lewax00
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                        It changed? Looks the same to me :doh:

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                        • L lewax00

                          It changed? Looks the same to me :doh:

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                          Ashley van Gerven
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                          You should be able to opt in to the new look using the small 'tab' that pops up at the bottom right of the page.

                          "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

                          CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.

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                          • A Andrei Bozantan

                            First, the good things: - the "comfortable" display density is comfortable :) - the new bigger buttons look nice - everything seems to be more clear - the possibility to better customize the left side is welcome Next, the bad things: - the site is noticeable slower especially when scrolling (using Firefox 7) - there is much less vertical space when reading the mail content - there are some inconsistent design elements: the compose button, the search button, the behavior of "Tasks" button and tasks and UI And of course I could add more subjective opinions about other small design issues. And with this I try to say that it is impossible to make a design for such a complex application that will please all the users. I think that a better approach will be to create some kind of user interface API using CSS and javascript (something like GreaseMonkey, but officially supported) and let third party developers to create different public designs for GMail and other Google products. What do you think about this and which things do you love and hate in the new GMail's UI?

                            If you can't explain something to a six year old, you really don't understand it yourself. (Albert Einstein)

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                            Ashley van Gerven
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                            Not really a fan.. The new look is really sterile. Too much spacing & white colour. Also messages in a thread are separated by a 1 pixel gray line... not enough distinction!

                            "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

                            CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.

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