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  • C Chris Losinger

    sadly, i know nothing at all about running cables.

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    GateKeeper22
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    It isn't that hard. I would suggest getting a book on networking specifically one that gets you ready for the Net+ certification. That is how I learned and it worked out really well for me. I would also recommend starting to make your own network cables before you start running wires through the wall. That will help you to understand how the cable works and give you a way to start over if you mess something up. I hope that helps out some.

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    • N Nelson Kosta Souto

      I would use cat6. About crack this: b749f6c269a746243debc6488046e33f, it is easy... with BT5 and a good graphics card (GPU) ... and parallel processing ...

      NKS

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      Namlak
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      I would install ample conduit and drops, regardless of what I end up putting into them. But, yes, wired every time vs. wireless where it's practical (i.e. not for my laptop that roams the house)

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      • R Ravi Bhavnani

        Except an assignment statement.  :) /ravi

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        Peter R Fletcher
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        But surely an assignment statement just tells a value to go to a memory location! :)

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        • F Fabio Franco

          Cat5, never. Maybe Cat5e or Cat6. If it's a new home. If it's not, it's too much of a hassle to wire it all up, specially if the place has tight conduits available. I'd also consider using the FTP versions of both if the place has high EM noise which would mess with both wired and wifi options. The FTP are also good if you're wiring it alongside electrical cables.

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          Peter R Fletcher
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          How many non-new homes have conduits available that are not being used for mains cable? There are good reasons (other than NEC ones) not to run data and power cables together.

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          • C Chris Losinger

            hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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            0bx
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            I'm not against using Wifi, but if you have the opportunity to wire your house with structured cabling you should go for it. You may not know why you need a data-socket in your bathroom right now... but in 10-20 years you'll be glad when you have a virtual assist AI doctor capable to take a discreet look at your *you know what*, in the privacy of your own bathroom while it's connected directly to your civilian super-computer (which is quietly tucked away in the garage). :-\ It's not a question of why, it's a question of when. Also, once you have structured cabling installed (intelligently), you can easily replace it with a fiber-optic cables when the time is ripe. Just tie the new cables and your old Cat5e's in a knot and pull. Wireless will always be the weaker than cable, no matter how much faster or adequately secured it may be compared to cat5 in 5-10 years; that argument is irrelevant. Radio-waves have technical limitations that are harder to overcome than with physical connections and that limitation increases exponentially with distance. That's not an opinion, it's physics.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              Definitely wired. I also have wireless. I wanted to make it secured, but my kid has a Nintendo DS that can use wireless, but won't use the latest security. If you have any devices that won't use security, or have guests to whom you don't want to have to give a password, you may find that wired is more convenient (provided it's in every room).

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              Hooga Booga
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              I went that way for a while then decided to secure my wireless and let the kids fend for themselves. I now see them playing DS on the stairs occasionally because that's where they get the best reception on the neighbour's WIFI. :-D

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              • C Chris Losinger

                hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                patbob
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                Wired, with Cat6. Security & bandwidth. I'd price single mode too to see if it can be competitive. Even if you never put ethernet on the cables, you may put some other signal. Don't forget to have some taps put in at key security camera mount points. PoE security cameras are getting ubiquitous.

                We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                • C Chris Losinger

                  hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                  Member 4612192
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                  CAT 5 via D-Link's AC line adapters. I switched to that three months ago. Wireless in my house had to traverse three levels, and it was always fluctuating up and down in signal strength. CAT 5 solved that problem. CAT 5 dedicated cabling into all the rooms would be sensible if a good, hard look at the costs revealed no downside. Wireless is simple and cheap when it is located where it works well. Fit the solution to the problem.

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                  • P Peter R Fletcher

                    But surely an assignment statement just tells a value to go to a memory location! :)

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                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                    Peter R. Fletcher wrote:

                    tells a value to go to a memory location!

                    I believe the technical term is "scoot".  :) /ravi

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                    • N Namlak

                      I would install ample conduit and drops, regardless of what I end up putting into them. But, yes, wired every time vs. wireless where it's practical (i.e. not for my laptop that roams the house)

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                      Mark J Miller
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                      Wired all the way, not only is wifi much less secure, but it isn't anywhere near as reliable as wired. I stream all my movies from a share on my LAN and never a hiccup - it's a beautiful thing. I wish I had installed conduit. I wasn't aware of it when I finished my basement years ago. As it was I had to fight the electrician just to get him to install the cabling in the first place. He didn't see the need for it and I had to pull a "I'm paying for this and it's what I want". I even ended up capping my own cables.

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                      • L Lost User

                        The maximum recommended length for cat5+gigabit is only 10 meters, you'd "need" 5 signal boosters just to get from one side of buckingham palace to the other. Or accept the potentially reduced performance.

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                        Edw
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                        Max run length is set by the TIA/EIA. For Cat 5 is 100 meters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAT_5[^]

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                        • M Mark J Miller

                          Wired all the way, not only is wifi much less secure, but it isn't anywhere near as reliable as wired. I stream all my movies from a share on my LAN and never a hiccup - it's a beautiful thing. I wish I had installed conduit. I wasn't aware of it when I finished my basement years ago. As it was I had to fight the electrician just to get him to install the cabling in the first place. He didn't see the need for it and I had to pull a "I'm paying for this and it's what I want". I even ended up capping my own cables.

                          Code responsibly: OWASP.org Mark's blog: www.developMENTALmadness.com Bill Cosby - "A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice."

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                          Isfeasachme
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                          Oh my god... are you guys all sitting in your rocking chairs shaking your canes at kids on your lawn? Security Pfft. The best security is ubiquity. Every house down the block is wireless. We're entirely wireless here. I stream video without a hiccup, too... I also take reasonable security precautions. The only real reason to go wired is bandwidth.

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                          • P Peter R Fletcher

                            How many non-new homes have conduits available that are not being used for mains cable? There are good reasons (other than NEC ones) not to run data and power cables together.

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                            Fabio Franco
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                            Peter R. Fletcher wrote:

                            There are good reasons (other than NEC ones) not to run data and power cables together.

                            Yes, I know, but as I said, there might not be another solution (without breaking walls) for the problems and the FTP cables could be a solution.

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                            • C Chris Losinger

                              hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                              tchris
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                              I'd choose wired over wifi any day not just because of security, but reliability as well.

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                              • E Edw

                                Max run length is set by the TIA/EIA. For Cat 5 is 100 meters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAT_5[^]

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                                Lost User
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                                That's for cat5 at rated speed. Not for gigabit.

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                                • I Isfeasachme

                                  Oh my god... are you guys all sitting in your rocking chairs shaking your canes at kids on your lawn? Security Pfft. The best security is ubiquity. Every house down the block is wireless. We're entirely wireless here. I stream video without a hiccup, too... I also take reasonable security precautions. The only real reason to go wired is bandwidth.

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                                  Mark J Miller
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                                  Sorry, I've never been on a wireless network that's as reliable as a wired one. I didn't say I don't have wireless. I just prefer wired over wireless any day of the week and twice on Sunday. The only network issues I ever have are wireless ones - 'nuf said.

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                                  • C Chris Losinger

                                    hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                                    wbaxter37
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                                    Definitely Cat6. Most of the cost is in the electrician. Gigabit switches are commodity items now. We added minimal CAT6 wiring to our home in self-defense. You should hear my wife blister the air when the WiFi farts out.

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                                    • C Chris Losinger

                                      hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                                      Shipswake
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                                      Better yet run conduit to the rooms you can rewire anytime you like, add lines etc

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                                      • C Chris Losinger

                                        hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                                        ThatEffinIanHarrisBloke
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                                        WiFi all the way!!! I currently have my old Billion cranking out 802.11g and I have no problems whatsoever. It is secured with WPA2-PSK and I download torrents at speeds around 1.5 MB/s some times. A good download server like microsoft download sees me download @ around 1.8 MB/s (My ADSL2+ is Syncing to the DSLAM @ ~19mbs)and so wireless g is more than enough as it is faster than my internet anyway....and LAN wise I do the odd media streaming and thats bout it so I'm fine with g and couldn't even be bothered upgrading to n. If for somereason you do live in a palace, you can get wifi range extenders (repeaters) to re-transmit your wifi into dead spot areas......cables are a thing of the past.....get with the times!!!!

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                                        • N Nish Nishant

                                          harold aptroot wrote:

                                          Cat5 isn't great at medium distance gigabit ethernet (you may get away with short distances),

                                          He's talking about a standard suburban home, not buckingham palace. :rolleyes:

                                          Regards, Nish


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                                          obermd
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                                          I would still go with Cat6.

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