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  • P Peter R Fletcher

    But surely an assignment statement just tells a value to go to a memory location! :)

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    Ravi Bhavnani
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    Peter R. Fletcher wrote:

    tells a value to go to a memory location!

    I believe the technical term is "scoot".  :) /ravi

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    • N Namlak

      I would install ample conduit and drops, regardless of what I end up putting into them. But, yes, wired every time vs. wireless where it's practical (i.e. not for my laptop that roams the house)

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      Mark J Miller
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      Wired all the way, not only is wifi much less secure, but it isn't anywhere near as reliable as wired. I stream all my movies from a share on my LAN and never a hiccup - it's a beautiful thing. I wish I had installed conduit. I wasn't aware of it when I finished my basement years ago. As it was I had to fight the electrician just to get him to install the cabling in the first place. He didn't see the need for it and I had to pull a "I'm paying for this and it's what I want". I even ended up capping my own cables.

      Code responsibly: OWASP.org Mark's blog: www.developMENTALmadness.com Bill Cosby - "A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice."

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      • L Lost User

        The maximum recommended length for cat5+gigabit is only 10 meters, you'd "need" 5 signal boosters just to get from one side of buckingham palace to the other. Or accept the potentially reduced performance.

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        Edw
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        Max run length is set by the TIA/EIA. For Cat 5 is 100 meters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAT_5[^]

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        • M Mark J Miller

          Wired all the way, not only is wifi much less secure, but it isn't anywhere near as reliable as wired. I stream all my movies from a share on my LAN and never a hiccup - it's a beautiful thing. I wish I had installed conduit. I wasn't aware of it when I finished my basement years ago. As it was I had to fight the electrician just to get him to install the cabling in the first place. He didn't see the need for it and I had to pull a "I'm paying for this and it's what I want". I even ended up capping my own cables.

          Code responsibly: OWASP.org Mark's blog: www.developMENTALmadness.com Bill Cosby - "A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice."

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          Isfeasachme
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          Oh my god... are you guys all sitting in your rocking chairs shaking your canes at kids on your lawn? Security Pfft. The best security is ubiquity. Every house down the block is wireless. We're entirely wireless here. I stream video without a hiccup, too... I also take reasonable security precautions. The only real reason to go wired is bandwidth.

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          • P Peter R Fletcher

            How many non-new homes have conduits available that are not being used for mains cable? There are good reasons (other than NEC ones) not to run data and power cables together.

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            Fabio Franco
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            Peter R. Fletcher wrote:

            There are good reasons (other than NEC ones) not to run data and power cables together.

            Yes, I know, but as I said, there might not be another solution (without breaking walls) for the problems and the FTP cables could be a solution.

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            • C Chris Losinger

              hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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              tchris
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              I'd choose wired over wifi any day not just because of security, but reliability as well.

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              • E Edw

                Max run length is set by the TIA/EIA. For Cat 5 is 100 meters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAT_5[^]

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                Lost User
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                That's for cat5 at rated speed. Not for gigabit.

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                • I Isfeasachme

                  Oh my god... are you guys all sitting in your rocking chairs shaking your canes at kids on your lawn? Security Pfft. The best security is ubiquity. Every house down the block is wireless. We're entirely wireless here. I stream video without a hiccup, too... I also take reasonable security precautions. The only real reason to go wired is bandwidth.

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                  Mark J Miller
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                  Sorry, I've never been on a wireless network that's as reliable as a wired one. I didn't say I don't have wireless. I just prefer wired over wireless any day of the week and twice on Sunday. The only network issues I ever have are wireless ones - 'nuf said.

                  Code responsibly: OWASP.org Mark's blog: www.developMENTALmadness.com Bill Cosby - "A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice."

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                    wbaxter37
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                    Definitely Cat6. Most of the cost is in the electrician. Gigabit switches are commodity items now. We added minimal CAT6 wiring to our home in self-defense. You should hear my wife blister the air when the WiFi farts out.

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                      Shipswake
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                      Better yet run conduit to the rooms you can rewire anytime you like, add lines etc

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                      • C Chris Losinger

                        hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                        ThatEffinIanHarrisBloke
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                        WiFi all the way!!! I currently have my old Billion cranking out 802.11g and I have no problems whatsoever. It is secured with WPA2-PSK and I download torrents at speeds around 1.5 MB/s some times. A good download server like microsoft download sees me download @ around 1.8 MB/s (My ADSL2+ is Syncing to the DSLAM @ ~19mbs)and so wireless g is more than enough as it is faster than my internet anyway....and LAN wise I do the odd media streaming and thats bout it so I'm fine with g and couldn't even be bothered upgrading to n. If for somereason you do live in a palace, you can get wifi range extenders (repeaters) to re-transmit your wifi into dead spot areas......cables are a thing of the past.....get with the times!!!!

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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          Cat5 isn't great at medium distance gigabit ethernet (you may get away with short distances),

                          He's talking about a standard suburban home, not buckingham palace. :rolleyes:

                          Regards, Nish


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                          obermd
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                          I would still go with Cat6.

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            I installed Cat5 in most (not all) rooms. Ironically, all our machines (desk/laptops) as well as phones/TV use wifi. But I would strongly recommend doing it. It'll only cost 60-70 bucks / point when it's a new construction. It'll cost way more to do it later or you'll have to bear with the external-wire-ugliness.

                            Regards, Nish


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                            Florin Jurcovici 0
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                            IMO, the fact that you actually don't use it, although you did it, is the proof in the pudding - with nowadays wireless technology, wiring is useless. I'd go with wiring if you plan to use 20 desktops which heavily load the network all the time - which is why I consider wiring reasonable for companies and office buildings. But for home use wireless is IMO a no-brainer.

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                            • C Chris Losinger

                              hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                              Florin Jurcovici 0
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                              WiFi only. Whatever cabling you do, YAGNI.

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                              • C Chris Losinger

                                hypothetically... if you were building a new house, would you install cat5 in all the rooms, or would you just use WiFi ?

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                                LFRosa
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                                I think it depends on where you are. I used to live in a rental condo complex where 90% renters where employees in a technology leader with a facility nearby. Wi-Fi was everywhere, and virtually *ALL* channels where in heavy use, degrading the signal quality. Even had to bring back an old AP running 802.11a to avoid channel competition. When I bought my house the decision was really simple: go wired all the way, but only to bedrooms and places with longer stay. The back porch is Wi-Fi, though, so we can use laptops there when barbecuing and all. So, the solution to tis problem is kinda mixed, in my case at least.

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