Muslims Against Crusades banned by Theresa May
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Aunty says[^]:
Home Secretary Theresa May is banning Muslims Against Crusades, a group planning an anti-Armistice Day protest. The organisation had planned to repeat a demonstration held last year, when members burned poppies near to London's Albert Hall.
I would never like to take away someone's right to free speech, but when it's used to spout the hate these numpties spew it is justified. Next stop, the English Defense League.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
They are a very small group who keep coming back with a new name led by a complete muppet called Anjem Choudary. If they were completely ignored by the media each time they try a stunt like this they would get bored and give up. Unfortunately last year's effort and some of their other stunts have drawn massive media attention and a predictable backlash.
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Aunty says[^]:
Home Secretary Theresa May is banning Muslims Against Crusades, a group planning an anti-Armistice Day protest. The organisation had planned to repeat a demonstration held last year, when members burned poppies near to London's Albert Hall.
I would never like to take away someone's right to free speech, but when it's used to spout the hate these numpties spew it is justified. Next stop, the English Defense League.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
but when it's used to spout {objectionable stuff} these numpties spew it is justified.
The problem with that of course is in who exactly gets to define what is objectionable.
jschell wrote:
who exactly gets to define what is objectionable.
The courts do. In the UK, the freedom of speech is curtailed when it is likely to incite violence. Shouting 'kill the wogs' is an example of this. Burning poppies outside the venue of a festival of remembrance whist calling for the death of all soldiers is not an expression of opinion but a deliberately calculated act to offend. Though I would not wish to have their right to express their opinion that Britain's involvement in Afghanistan is wrong, I cannot accept the way they try to exercise this. It would be like trying to condone the behavior of the Westboro Baptist Church...
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Aunty says[^]:
Home Secretary Theresa May is banning Muslims Against Crusades, a group planning an anti-Armistice Day protest. The organisation had planned to repeat a demonstration held last year, when members burned poppies near to London's Albert Hall.
I would never like to take away someone's right to free speech, but when it's used to spout the hate these numpties spew it is justified. Next stop, the English Defense League.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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"Muslims Against Crusades" Did they miss the fact the Crusades stopped in the 15th century?
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Not theirs. :laugh:
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jschell wrote:
who exactly gets to define what is objectionable.
The courts do. In the UK, the freedom of speech is curtailed when it is likely to incite violence. Shouting 'kill the wogs' is an example of this. Burning poppies outside the venue of a festival of remembrance whist calling for the death of all soldiers is not an expression of opinion but a deliberately calculated act to offend. Though I would not wish to have their right to express their opinion that Britain's involvement in Afghanistan is wrong, I cannot accept the way they try to exercise this. It would be like trying to condone the behavior of the Westboro Baptist Church...
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
In the UK, the freedom of speech is curtailed when it is likely to incite violence
That certainly seems very subjective.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
The courts do.
Odd. The intent in the US is that courts enforce the laws - they don't make them.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
...is not an expression of opinion but a deliberately calculated act to offend
Also odd. In the US there are any number of venues including those that are purely artistic which the intent is specifically to offend. Naturally of course one is also then dependent on who gets to decide what is offensive. For example I certainly don't want eating meat to be outlawed because someone else finds it offensive.
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Not theirs. :laugh:
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Aparantly Spain has problems with Islamicists pissed off with ElCid. :)
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"Muslims Against Crusades" Did they miss the fact the Crusades stopped in the 15th century?
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Still a popular topic among Muslim fundamentalist. It's ridiculous, but as long as they have an excuse to hate you it doesn't matter to those fascist idiots. That the crusades are somehow connected to the big war is probably another piece of their made-up history.
Giraffes are not real.
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Aunty says[^]:
Home Secretary Theresa May is banning Muslims Against Crusades, a group planning an anti-Armistice Day protest. The organisation had planned to repeat a demonstration held last year, when members burned poppies near to London's Albert Hall.
I would never like to take away someone's right to free speech, but when it's used to spout the hate these numpties spew it is justified. Next stop, the English Defense League.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Religion's stupid. Political ideology is also getting pretty close to religious faith. Personality cults and anything faith based is usually a recipe for stupid and bad stuff will follow.
Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_