Well that proves it then
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I can see the guy in the white coat because I can visit him if I so choose and I can prove they existed from multiple reliable sources. Can you say the same for your toga wearing hippie pixie?(No offense to hippies, or pixies)
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
No offence taken. But then I'm URC[^], so WTF would I know about God. :-D
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Cyclical reasoning. You're wrong because I'm right doesn't wash in this man army. Neither do a lot of the troops, but that's another story.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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ryanb31 wrote:
OT does count
Back to Leviticus it is then. Where're your Canadian slaves?
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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ryanb31 wrote:
1. Genesis: Wow, what an assumption by you.
6- And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. Perhaps you need to actually read the text then. It is exactly what is said. (From your beloved KJV by the way)
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2. Joshua: "puts the Sun and Moon over the earth" These are YOUR words. That means the earth is flat? Are you insane? Please go look outside and tell me where yo see the sun and then tonight the moon. Seriously? You can't possibly have meant this but for the life of me I can't follow you on this one.
12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. Again, read the text. It specifically puts the sun and moon over a specific places on the earth. The ONLY way to interpret that is to assume that the earth is (at minimum) at the center with the sun and moon above the flat earthly disc. There is certainly no way you can twist these words into being a sun centered solar system.
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3. Again, what in the world version of the Bible are you reading?
22 [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Not sure what you are reading. This is again your KJV. Perhaps you should actually read your bible once in a while if you are going to claim to know what it says.
ryanb31 wrote:
4. OT does count. Don't twist my words. If what you say is true then Christ did not walk on water either. I don't know how it will be but yes I do know that everyone will see Christ when he comes again. Everyone, even on a round world. There is a law of physics you 1137s don't even know about.
Wow. Blind does not even begin to describe you. You twisted everything so bad. You are definitely way out there. You can't get past the first understanding. I would have better success trying to teach my 2 year old dif eq than trying to explain anymore to you. You have no foundation and therefore cannot understand even the easiest concepts. Good luck with your continued faith in science only. Hope that goes well for you.
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Then why does the bible say that god did it? Read the stories carefully before responding.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Cyclical reasoning. You're wrong because I'm right doesn't wash in this man army. Neither do a lot of the troops, but that's another story.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Ah yes. The old "You can't understand the bible because you're not a believer and the spirit hasn't revealed it to you" argument. :sigh:
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Wow. Blind does not even begin to describe you. You twisted everything so bad. You are definitely way out there. You can't get past the first understanding. I would have better success trying to teach my 2 year old dif eq than trying to explain anymore to you. You have no foundation and therefore cannot understand even the easiest concepts. Good luck with your continued faith in science only. Hope that goes well for you.
Again, you're just saying we're wrong and misinterpreting the Bible. What do you take it to mean, can you explain things differently. And as you brought up differential equations you'll understand this: SHOW YOUR WORKINGS
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Wow you really missed the boat on this one. If you go back, the discussion was about how man has made some changes to the Bible. Don't waste my time.
Not really. You are claiming to follow a translation that was translated correctly, so my point stands as valid.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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and just because you THINK you understand it does not make it true.
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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That is not what I said which again proves what I just said, you don't even know what you are saying.
It is exactly what you are saying. Repeatedly you just use an argument that we don't know what we're saying without providing evidence of why we are wrong. Please explain why we are wrong.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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No offence taken. But then I'm URC[^], so WTF would I know about God. :-D
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
you have forgotton a major point. You can't educate pork
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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You missed the sarcasm. I was brought up to be a young earth creationist like yourself. I believed everything you believe now and before you say I fell away because I wasn't a true believer, I'll guarantee you that this is not the case. My father was a brilliant biblical scholar so I don't have to speculate on how a apologist approaches the bible which is the exact approach you are taking. I was prepared to go into the ministry, and it was at that point, after a discussion with a well informed non believer that I decided I needed to know what secular sources actually claim about what I believed. I studied the bible and its history in depth. I studied many books on apologetics alongside the secular rebuttals to the arguments. Being objective in this way is simply being honest with yourself. I would encourage you to do the same. Put the same requirements of proof on your own beliefs that you place on those who disagree with you.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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You missed the sarcasm. I was brought up to be a young earth creationist like yourself. I believed everything you believe now and before you say I fell away because I wasn't a true believer, I'll guarantee you that this is not the case. My father was a brilliant biblical scholar so I don't have to speculate on how a apologist approaches the bible which is the exact approach you are taking. I was prepared to go into the ministry, and it was at that point, after a discussion with a well informed non believer that I decided I needed to know what secular sources actually claim about what I believed. I studied the bible and its history in depth. I studied many books on apologetics alongside the secular rebuttals to the arguments. Being objective in this way is simply being honest with yourself. I would encourage you to do the same. Put the same requirements of proof on your own beliefs that you place on those who disagree with you.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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you have forgotton a major point. You can't educate pork
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
But if you smoke it up real good, it becomes bacon...
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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But if you smoke it up real good, it becomes bacon...
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
which is no harder to educate mmmm bacon
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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But if you smoke it up real good, it becomes bacon...
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
Now I'm hungry.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Now I'm hungry.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
mmm fried bacon grill sarnies with hp sauce yummie
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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mmm fried bacon grill sarnies with hp sauce yummie
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Stop it. I'm going to have to get another breakfast if you guys keep going...
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Stop it. I'm going to have to get another breakfast if you guys keep going...
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
You could argue that bacon proves [insert deity of choice here] exists
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.