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Borland C++ Builder (Builder version 5). Very old app.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)What is everything else in your shop written in (as far as .Net is concerned), and did your boss say WHY he wanted it in VB?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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What is everything else in your shop written in (as far as .Net is concerned), and did your boss say WHY he wanted it in VB?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
What is everything else in your shop written in (as far as .Net is concerned), and did your boss say WHY he wanted it in VB?
Borland C++, C#, and the guy who wrote the app I am going to help rewrite, only codes now in VB.Net. He is a senior programmer/manager and my boss deferred preference to him.
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I think that's great - you will learn a new language just like that! My advice is never create a Module, use OOP the way you do in C#, don't use ANY Basic commands that only exist for historical reasons (don't even learn about them). I believe those of us who know both VB.NET and C# have the advantage... ;) Edit: Oh, and use Option Strict ON
It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
Thanks for the advice and the reply. I am going to do my best to remain positive about this experience.
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I think that's great - you will learn a new language just like that! My advice is never create a Module, use OOP the way you do in C#, don't use ANY Basic commands that only exist for historical reasons (don't even learn about them). I believe those of us who know both VB.NET and C# have the advantage... ;) Edit: Oh, and use Option Strict ON
It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
What is everything else in your shop written in (as far as .Net is concerned), and did your boss say WHY he wanted it in VB?
Borland C++, C#, and the guy who wrote the app I am going to help rewrite, only codes now in VB.Net. He is a senior programmer/manager and my boss deferred preference to him.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)From C++ to VB.NET ... He is getting ready for retirement?
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Thanks for the advice and the reply. I am going to do my best to remain positive about this experience.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Slacker007 wrote:
I am going to do my best to remain positive about this experience.
I think that train is lost already :laugh:
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From C++ to VB.NET ... He is getting ready for retirement?
Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)
Alberto Bar-Noy wrote:
He is getting ready for retirement?
Funny you mention that. He has been with the company for 27 years. :)
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AnnieMacD wrote:
Edit: Oh, and use Option Strict ON
And add On Error Resume :laugh:
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Alberto Bar-Noy wrote:
He is getting ready for retirement?
Funny you mention that. He has been with the company for 27 years. :)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Unless the senior dev is sleeping with MD, justifying a choice like that by "I only know VB.net" is tountermount to admitting he's not up to the job. If he's really "senior" then he should be able to adapt. Go for the flame-thrower - he moves or it's time for crispy fries. :suss:
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I have been tasked to re-write an app in VB.Net I have never used VB.Net in my life. I created my first solution this morning and all I have to say is... :omg: :wtf: did I just get myself into.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)I spent a year writing in VB.net; it gave me an ulcer.
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I have been tasked to re-write an app in VB.Net I have never used VB.Net in my life. I created my first solution this morning and all I have to say is... :omg: :wtf: did I just get myself into.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)It could have been worse. Just be happy that it is VB .NET and not VB6! :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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It could have been worse. Just be happy that it is VB .NET and not VB6! :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
It could have been worse.
very true. I don't like to jump on the anti vb wagon; I really don't...to each their own. It's just that now, I know why so many people go :omg: :wtf: did I just get myself into when they have to work with it. When all is said and done, I have a job to do. I will do my best, maybe learn something, and hopefully call it a day. :)
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Now turn to bossman and tell him vb.net and c# are the same hippy-sh*t and you'd prefer to use c#.
I did. No go. I had/have no say in the matter this time. It is a high priority rewrite and I was not asked my opinion. I'm sure we have all been there a few thousand times. :sigh:
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I think that's great - you will learn a new language just like that! My advice is never create a Module, use OOP the way you do in C#, don't use ANY Basic commands that only exist for historical reasons (don't even learn about them). I believe those of us who know both VB.NET and C# have the advantage... ;) Edit: Oh, and use Option Strict ON
It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
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I think that's great - you will learn a new language just like that! My advice is never create a Module, use OOP the way you do in C#, don't use ANY Basic commands that only exist for historical reasons (don't even learn about them). I believe those of us who know both VB.NET and C# have the advantage... ;) Edit: Oh, and use Option Strict ON
It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
the only time to use a module is for extension methods as sadly you cant do it any other way.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
It could have been worse.
very true. I don't like to jump on the anti vb wagon; I really don't...to each their own. It's just that now, I know why so many people go :omg: :wtf: did I just get myself into when they have to work with it. When all is said and done, I have a job to do. I will do my best, maybe learn something, and hopefully call it a day. :)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)The commas is the biggest thing that I keep forget when switching between the two languages
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I have been tasked to re-write an app in VB.Net I have never used VB.Net in my life. I created my first solution this morning and all I have to say is... :omg: :wtf: did I just get myself into.
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AnnieMacD wrote:
don't use ANY Basic commands that only exist for historical reasons
Easiest way to do this: Go into the Project settings, References, and remove the reference to the Microsoft.VisualBasic namespace and DLL.
Vark111 wrote:
Easiest way to do this: Go into the Project settings, References, and remove the reference to the Microsoft.VisualBasic namespace and DLL.
Thanks for the tip.
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I have been tasked to re-write an app in VB.Net I have never used VB.Net in my life. I created my first solution this morning and all I have to say is... :omg: :wtf: did I just get myself into.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)I coded in VB.Net for a long time. I'm using C# now (I willingly chose to make the transition, with no impetus of any kind, not even popular opinion). It's not really that bad: just a lot more verbose. I can see the appeal of C# nowadays, with some of the syntax, but honestly, you'll just have to write a few more lines of code. That's all. I honestly did consider writing a plugin at one stage that could 'expand' C# syntax into VB.Net, but I don't think that'd be practical :laugh: Oh hell, I'm a self-taught programmer. What's practical got to do with anything? ;P
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Alberto Bar-Noy wrote:
He is getting ready for retirement?
Funny you mention that. He has been with the company for 27 years. :)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)It's very hard to make older people learn something new, that's probably why the senior guy will resist moving to C#. On the other hand, you can throw real arguments against going to VB.Net. To mention a few: 1 - Going from C++ to C# is a much more fluent approach. 2 - If the company has more stuff based on C#, it means it has more C# skilled people and that means there are more resources if they are needed. Reduced dependency on the VB.Net guy. 3 - There are a lot more resources on the web for C# language than for VB.Net. This minimizes the need of reinventing the wheel or having to translate everything. As proof you can just perform a search of C# vs VB.Net articles on codeproject, you'll see that there are a lot more articles on C#. There are a lot more arguments to favor C#, but I don't want to get religious about it.
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