How was your first day on .net?
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
Totally unspectacular. Updated the old Visual Studio to VS .Net 2002, looked through the menus and tried out a Windows Forms application out of curiosity.
And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
"Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"And I smiled and was happy
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
My experience:
I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio.
Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS20085 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it.I've tried many programming languages at school (except VB, I ran away during my second year of highschool when the time for everyone to learn VB). But I started .Net in my company.
Oxfords English < Official CCC Players Dictionary Excuse me for my improper grammar and typos. It's because English is my primary language, not my first language. My first languages are C# and Java. VB, ASP, JS, PHP and SQL are my second language. Indonesian came as my third language. My fourth language? I'm still creating it, I'll let you know when it's done! :-D
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
Well from C++(desktop) to Java(desktop) to ASP.NET and HTML on framework 1.1 was quite a shock... Especially because they said "Here are 10 bugs, You have one week. Fix them" :^)
Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)
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My experience:
I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio.
Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS20085 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it.I've tried many programming languages at school (except VB, I ran away during my second year of highschool when the time for everyone to learn VB). But I started .Net in my company.
Oxfords English < Official CCC Players Dictionary Excuse me for my improper grammar and typos. It's because English is my primary language, not my first language. My first languages are C# and Java. VB, ASP, JS, PHP and SQL are my second language. Indonesian came as my third language. My fourth language? I'm still creating it, I'll let you know when it's done! :-D
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Well from C++(desktop) to Java(desktop) to ASP.NET and HTML on framework 1.1 was quite a shock... Especially because they said "Here are 10 bugs, You have one week. Fix them" :^)
Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)
you were the unlucky one; but with such kind of pressure, i'm pretty sure you were quick off the line; helps one reduce the learning curve
Alberto Bar-Noy wrote:
Well from C++(desktop) to Java(desktop) to ASP.NET and HTML on framework 1.1 was quite a shock...
Especially because they said "Here are 10 bugs, You have one week. Fix them" :^)Alberto Bar-Noy
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“The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!”
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
It was a long time ago, I don't remember. But I remember reading the C# V1 spec back in 1999 and getting excited about it -- I didn't know it would require a whole stinkin' framework.
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
eyesark wrote:
How was your first .net experience?
I had changed jobs, at the new company I was going to be part of the small Microsoft-section doing VB6. Some weeks after I had started there we got the first beta (or alpha) of .Net. That consisted of the compiler and framework, no IDE whatsoever... Writing code was done in Textpad (or Notepad, or whatever you wanted). That's my first experience. But we made our application in VB6 and didn't port it to C# until 1.5 years later. :(
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
I wrote a .NET 1.0 app, said "this is silly and just as bad as VB" and ignored .NET for three years, picking it up again when 2.0 was in very early beta.
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
I always had an temptation to use products that Microsoft offers, so when I got my first and the company was using .NET technology only, I was very happy. I started with .NET 3.5 and currently working on .NET 4.0 and I am loving it.
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
I took a remote class on dotNET 1.1. It looked like a 100% Java rip-off minus some features. I am glad Microsoft did spin it off separate from Java after Sun tried to stifle MS custom java enhancements. If Microsoft had not spun off dotNET, I am pretty sure that Sun would have frozen Java at 1.2! My first real usage of dotNET/3.5 C# was to fine tune (read as make it work for 100% of test cases) an algorithm that I had "working" in Java (read as working for 95% of test cases, but not worth spending billable hours on it). I achieved 100% pass in a simplified dotNET model and ported the final algorithm back to Java. I also wrote a web service in dotNET for extracting ActiveDirectory information for a Java front end. Easy as pie in dot NET, especially with the newer libraries. The only thing that I missed was the Java inner classes and their ability to automatically convert locally scoped "final" variables into member variables of the inner class. (implicit construction). In C#, I had to include all constructor parameters.
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
Was working as a helldesk technician right out of college as development jobs had dried up after the DotCom bust. I had learned programming on C++ and Java but the company I was working for was looking for someone to upgrade their ASP web site to ASP.NET. I was tired of asking "have you tried turning it off and on again?" and figured that was my way out. Luckily the company had an agreement with one of those online schools and I quickly took a couple of courses in .NET slapped those on my resume and proceeded to move up in the world. That was 10 years and 4 companies ago and I'm still using C# as my primary language.
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
My first .NET experience was using VB.NET in a programming class in school. I had already taken a Java class and frankly didn't like it as much as I thought I would. Then I found VB.NET and that is what really got me into programming. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit. I started using C# exclusively at my current job along with .NET 4.0. I think C# is one of the best languages out there (maybe even the best OOP language, but that is a debate for another day). The .NET framework is really nice and Microsoft over the last few years has made some impressive changes to move it along. Can't wait to get my hands on Roslyn.
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
Started at a new company and was immediatly required to do a pretty complex use case in ASP .NET 1.1 I was fresh out of school where I mostly did Java. I kinda liked it, but felt that the code could be more elegant. Then I was shipped off to a customer for 3 years where I did all sorts of things, but not .NET When I returned to the main office, they moved up to .NET 3.0 Now, I kinda liked it a lot better. 3.5 came and we started our first WPF project a bit later. XAML blew me away. I loved it and I still do. XAML is by far the best and most intuitive GUI layer I've ever worked with. C# + XAML is a killer combo for me.
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
I was in a library and saw a book with the following title: "Microsoft .net". I didn't research much and bought the book thinking it was a new microsoft technology for web (.net) applications :doh: . A very good mistake though, .net since 1.0 :)
"To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
Actually, my first day of .NET was not good. I'm a Web developer, and I love coding, not the drag-and-drop style. I always coded my HTML/CSS by hand, and actually started out as ColdFusion developer, back in the Allaire days, and did some Java. Then I tried ASP.NET, dragged a few controls onto the design surface, plugged in some events, and hated it. Wait, where do I write the HTML? How do I write CSS in there? What are the crazy ID's that are being generated? It was so contrary to what I felt most comfortable with, so I ignored it. I loved the C# language, I really wanted to use it, but I just couldn't get into WebForms. Then I started playing with Ruby on Rails, and loved the MVC concept, but didn't like the lack of (at the time) support in Windows. I dual booted Linux and started to learn it...but then this little thing called ASP.NET MVC beta came out...MVC with C#! Jumped right in, and haven't looked back ever since. I love the .NET Framework, and Visual Studio (with ReSharper), it's a great environment to work in. But, I just couldn't get into it until ASP.NET MVC. Now in version 3 with the Razor syntax, I am really happy now. But, WebForms still haunts me, because I wanted to get my MCTS, but instead of creating a separate track, they plunked it into the same exam as only 13% of the exam. So, I would have to go back and learn WebForms just to get certified. No thanks. Hopefully some day they'll create a separate certification track.
The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
I used to be an advanced Delphi developer, but then took a job where I was forced to do VB6. X| I felt my hands were tied and was deeply frustrated by that language's lack of power. Then one joyful morning we were green-lit to use VB.net and I saw FREEDOM again, just like when I was coding with Delphi; the only thing I really missed from VB6 was its edit-and-continue philosphy, (this feature was not available in VS2003) I had unknowingly reshaped my coding patterns around it! Anders Hejlsberg has created IMO the best development platforms ever since Borland Turbo Pascal's days. Delphi was a masterpiece, and Microsoft did an extremely well strategic move bringing his talent to the table. :-D
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
I had previously been using VC++ and MFC (Yech! Shudder!), so .NET was a VAST improvement! VC++ and MFC use what I call a "gimmick-based" architecture. To do anything significant, a straightforward approach never works; you have to know the gimmick. (A quick example: The CBitmap class didn't even have a method to read .BMP file from disk! Sure, it's possible, but you have to know the gimmick to do it! Horrible!) In C#/.NET everything's methods and members. With Intellisense, it actually became easier to solve a problem in C# than in C++, despite the fact that I had had 20 times more experience with C++/MFC! And C#/.NET had fewer of those situations where you're doing EVERYTHING "correctly", but it still doesn't work. I have to give credit where credit is due: .NET/C# was a vast improvement in programming technology.
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Before i ever knew the .net framework existed, I was a diehard Java programmer, when it was owned by Sun Systems. But on my industrial attachment, I worked for a firm that dealt with Microsoft technologies only, hence, the need to interact with Visual Studio. Having interacted with Netbeans IDE, my transition to VS2008 was at the very least effortless; the imports became, 'using' (C#), and there was a visual toolbox like the one I was accustomed to with Java. And before I realized it, I was using .net libraries like System.net.sockets and liking it. I have not turned back since then, and now even consider myself a C# developer on VS2010 and using Telerik and WP7 sdk. I only interact with Java when I occasionally have to whip up some Android app. How was your first .net experience?
I know only a little Java, and only a little C#, but I do know that they are very similar. In an open source project I worked on, the apache Lucene searche engine, written in java, is used to implement a desktop file indexing/searching tool, which is named beagle, and is written in C# (mono). The lexical parser was written in jflex, and after the java source is generated, it only took me a dozen regexp-replacements to covert the code into C#. So, they are indeed quite similar...