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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    ...that can be eaten before it is born and after it dies?


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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    Anything that gestates in an egg. In this context, the word "only" is completely misleading.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      Anything that gestates in an egg. In this context, the word "only" is completely misleading.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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      Don't see why an egg in needed, see my post above.

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        ...that can be eaten before it is born and after it dies?


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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        That's only by human convention. Carnivores will happily take a pregnant animal and kill it for food - simultaneously satisfying both conditions.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Don't see why an egg in needed, see my post above.

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          Sharks are in the same category. My point was that the word "only" is technically invalid.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            ...that can be eaten before it is born and after it dies?


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            Quite a few. Duck, fish, chicken, quails, in fact anything that produces an egg.

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              I thought you buggers wouldn't pick it taht quickly. Shyte. :sigh:


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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              It was pretty obvious.

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              • J JHizzle

                Technically anything with eggs? Because I don't usually eat live chicken for example.

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                JHizzle wrote:

                I don't usually eat live chicken for example

                When you came to eating it it isnt going to be that lively though. :)

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Sharks are in the same category. My point was that the word "only" is technically invalid.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  Okay it was a crap question, I shall eat an extra portion of humble pie.


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    Okay it was a crap question, I shall eat an extra portion of humble pie.


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                    Has this humble pie been born yet?

                    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                      Has this humble pie been born yet?

                      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                          Has this humble pie been born yet?

                          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          Just leave me alone, I'm going to sulk :((


                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                          • N Nagy Vilmos

                            ...that can be eaten before it is born and after it dies?


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                            Any animal that does NOT use an egg for gestation. How often do you eat eggs with the shell on them (assuming you are not a snake)? If an animal is outside the egg, hasn't it been born?

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                            • N Nagy Vilmos

                              ...that can be eaten before it is born and after it dies?


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                              There are several of them - spotted owl, California condor, bald eagle, and they all taste pretty much the same. Just like chicken.

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                ...that can be eaten before it is born and after it dies?


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                Most people are erroneously replacing your "and" with an "or". To truly satisfy your conditions, we would need something to die, then be eaten, and then be born. All three of those must happen, in that order. "Before it is born" can only be true if a birth will in fact take place at some point in the future. Thus the birth must happen, and the eating takes place before it. Yet it also is required to happen after the death. Therefore, to achieve this, something must be able to first cause (or wait for) an animal's death, then swallow its mother whole[1], then the animal's emergence must happen either inside of, or after passing through, whatever is eating it. This does limit us to species which undergo birth (starfish are out, for instance). Furthermore, it must be a species whose female version can be swallowed whole[2] by at least one other thing[3]. It also limits us to non-immortal animals, or at least animals which go through some period of mortality, however brief, prior to birth. Unfortunately, there seems to be one additional condition, as well: the question asks for "the only animal" that fulfills these conditions. Alas, since there are multiple animals fulfilling those conditions today, we are forced to recognize that there is no practical answer at all. Our only option remaining is to convert the question and its answer into something like a proverb. "Q: What is the only animal that can be eaten before it is born and after it dies? A: The animal which is the only animal ever to be born." Now a question of my own: "What is the only animal that can give me back the last half hour that I inexplicably spent developing a logically accurate answer to this question?" [1] Or, arguably, an egg. [2] Or, arguably, whose eggs can be swallowed whole. [3] It is unclear whether an animal must do the eating, or whether we are using a broader definition such that, say, a black hole could eat it.

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                                  Most people are erroneously replacing your "and" with an "or". To truly satisfy your conditions, we would need something to die, then be eaten, and then be born. All three of those must happen, in that order. "Before it is born" can only be true if a birth will in fact take place at some point in the future. Thus the birth must happen, and the eating takes place before it. Yet it also is required to happen after the death. Therefore, to achieve this, something must be able to first cause (or wait for) an animal's death, then swallow its mother whole[1], then the animal's emergence must happen either inside of, or after passing through, whatever is eating it. This does limit us to species which undergo birth (starfish are out, for instance). Furthermore, it must be a species whose female version can be swallowed whole[2] by at least one other thing[3]. It also limits us to non-immortal animals, or at least animals which go through some period of mortality, however brief, prior to birth. Unfortunately, there seems to be one additional condition, as well: the question asks for "the only animal" that fulfills these conditions. Alas, since there are multiple animals fulfilling those conditions today, we are forced to recognize that there is no practical answer at all. Our only option remaining is to convert the question and its answer into something like a proverb. "Q: What is the only animal that can be eaten before it is born and after it dies? A: The animal which is the only animal ever to be born." Now a question of my own: "What is the only animal that can give me back the last half hour that I inexplicably spent developing a logically accurate answer to this question?" [1] Or, arguably, an egg. [2] Or, arguably, whose eggs can be swallowed whole. [3] It is unclear whether an animal must do the eating, or whether we are using a broader definition such that, say, a black hole could eat it.

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                                  Trajan McGill wrote:

                                  emergence must happen either inside of, or after passing through, whatever is eating it

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    ...that can be eaten before it is born and after it dies?


                                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                    Chicken. Almost all birds. Fish. (Caviar is fish eggs.)

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