OK, we better start evolving again!
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I am pretty sure Gorillas and Orangutan are self aware too. Bonobos and Chimps certainly. What of Elephants? Seem to remember a study from a few years ago showing they had self awareness
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Oh, yes, Orangutans, I forgot them, you are right, but I read about this many years ago. For Gorillas and Elephants I’m pretty sure, they were not mentioned, unless there is new development on the subject(the article I read was from about 10 years ago).
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OK. I will be serious here. It is a fact that those quoted are the ones most likely to get aids, I am sure that even you acknowledge that certain groups run much higher risks. I have no personal problems with any of those groups, I know several current and past drug takers, I have several gay friends, and although I do not frequent with prostitutes, I understand the reasons many get into the trade (often very sad reasons such as drug abuse). The African part is the cultural practice of a man taking on his dead brothers wife as a wife, and the UN has concerns (See Here).[^] I can see how they may have seemed rather inceniary comments, but the facts are in no doubt. You are right that I do not wish death or disease on anyone, of course not, I am not a heartless bastard. But having just buried a grandfather who died of Cancer I just made the point that cancer is the disease we need, as a species, to try to cure. I am not an idiot, just sometimes rather foolish. I can see how you read my posts as they appeared. Hey ho. I cannot change my views, nor would I, that would be the worst kind of craven cowardice, but I can concede that it should have been phrased less offensively.
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In the spirit you wrote that I give you my 5 I'll move on and concede the lounge to you. I used to really care about this place but now I've come to see it's just not worth caring about as much anymore. I used to like the discussion here which were always interesting and varied and intellectually stimulating but since the voting was implemented it's gone downhill steadily year after year. All the cool old timers I used to hang with here have been gone for years; I'm one of the last of the old timers really and that should have told me something a long time ago that I failed to realize until now. I do have better things to do and better choices for the kind of discussions I would like to have online and getting angry over something on the internet is easily one of the poorest ways to spend even a fraction of what little life we have. Cheers!
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So since I am a creationist that believes in evolution I have an IQ higher than or equal to a chimpanzee? :)
It’s just one of the requirements, not the only one. :-D
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The chimps are the only other animals who possess a self-awareness (that’s why they have wars, and kill each other in this wars). Even the dolphins don’t have self-awareness. I think this is enough evidence that we share some common ancestors solely.
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Actually I watched a show some time ago that stated Dolphins do have self awareness. They showed one male that had a mirror in his tank that was quite obviously looking in the mirror at his tail and back. he seemed to take special interest in the side that had some scars on it.
Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
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In the spirit you wrote that I give you my 5 I'll move on and concede the lounge to you. I used to really care about this place but now I've come to see it's just not worth caring about as much anymore. I used to like the discussion here which were always interesting and varied and intellectually stimulating but since the voting was implemented it's gone downhill steadily year after year. All the cool old timers I used to hang with here have been gone for years; I'm one of the last of the old timers really and that should have told me something a long time ago that I failed to realize until now. I do have better things to do and better choices for the kind of discussions I would like to have online and getting angry over something on the internet is easily one of the poorest ways to spend even a fraction of what little life we have. Cheers!
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John C wrote:
getting angry over something on the internet is easily one of the poorest ways to spend even a fraction of what little life we have.
We can both agree on that.
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In the spirit you wrote that I give you my 5 I'll move on and concede the lounge to you. I used to really care about this place but now I've come to see it's just not worth caring about as much anymore. I used to like the discussion here which were always interesting and varied and intellectually stimulating but since the voting was implemented it's gone downhill steadily year after year. All the cool old timers I used to hang with here have been gone for years; I'm one of the last of the old timers really and that should have told me something a long time ago that I failed to realize until now. I do have better things to do and better choices for the kind of discussions I would like to have online and getting angry over something on the internet is easily one of the poorest ways to spend even a fraction of what little life we have. Cheers!
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John C wrote:
I used to like the discussion here which were always interesting and varied and intellectually stimulating but since the voting was implemented it's gone downhill steadily year after year. All the cool old timers I used to hang with here have been gone for years; I'm one of the last of the old timers really and that should have told me something a long time ago that I failed to realize until now.
There is an alternative to that hypotheses however, it could be that you have changed.
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I wonder what his objectives are, I don't think 1 voting you is likely to transfer his morals onto you..
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ThomasCarmen wrote:
Seems a decent enough post, or do you have a problem with monkeys?
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OK. I will be serious here. It is a fact that those quoted are the ones most likely to get aids, I am sure that even you acknowledge that certain groups run much higher risks. I have no personal problems with any of those groups, I know several current and past drug takers, I have several gay friends, and although I do not frequent with prostitutes, I understand the reasons many get into the trade (often very sad reasons such as drug abuse). The African part is the cultural practice of a man taking on his dead brothers wife as a wife, and the UN has concerns (See Here).[^] I can see how they may have seemed rather inceniary comments, but the facts are in no doubt. You are right that I do not wish death or disease on anyone, of course not, I am not a heartless bastard. But having just buried a grandfather who died of Cancer I just made the point that cancer is the disease we need, as a species, to try to cure. I am not an idiot, just sometimes rather foolish. I can see how you read my posts as they appeared. Hey ho. I cannot change my views, nor would I, that would be the worst kind of craven cowardice, but I can concede that it should have been phrased less offensively.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
But having just buried a grandfather who died of Cancer I just made the point that cancer is the disease we need, as a species, to try to cure.
Laudable goal. However "cancer" is not one disease. Aids is. Also possible that many types of cancer will not turn out to be something that one can just prevent with a shot. But Aids probably will be.
Dalek Dave wrote:
The African part is the cultural practice of a man taking on his dead brothers wife as a wife, and the UN has concerns
Your view is that that practice is the cause of wide spread Aids in Africa?
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Dalek Dave wrote:
But having just buried a grandfather who died of Cancer I just made the point that cancer is the disease we need, as a species, to try to cure.
Laudable goal. However "cancer" is not one disease. Aids is. Also possible that many types of cancer will not turn out to be something that one can just prevent with a shot. But Aids probably will be.
Dalek Dave wrote:
The African part is the cultural practice of a man taking on his dead brothers wife as a wife, and the UN has concerns
Your view is that that practice is the cause of wide spread Aids in Africa?
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