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    When working in .NET environment, I really can't imagine how blind I am if there is not so-called Object Browser or something similar, with it I can explore .NET world myself at least to get general understanding first before searching for more from the Internet. I think any huge libraries like .NET should have such a tool, but now when working with Netbean for java programming, I can't find such a helpful tool, I'm blinded to java APIs when working with Netbean. I have searched to know if such a tool does exists in Netbean and it seems that I have to install it separatedly from the full installation of Netbean that I've done before, why is Netbean not integrated with such a helpful tool? I currently don't know how to install that tool (where to download?) to use with Netbean, of course much search has been done without finding any useful links, could you help me out with this? I'm sure that I can't learn Java if lacking such a tool! Thank you!

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      When working in .NET environment, I really can't imagine how blind I am if there is not so-called Object Browser or something similar, with it I can explore .NET world myself at least to get general understanding first before searching for more from the Internet. I think any huge libraries like .NET should have such a tool, but now when working with Netbean for java programming, I can't find such a helpful tool, I'm blinded to java APIs when working with Netbean. I have searched to know if such a tool does exists in Netbean and it seems that I have to install it separatedly from the full installation of Netbean that I've done before, why is Netbean not integrated with such a helpful tool? I currently don't know how to install that tool (where to download?) to use with Netbean, of course much search has been done without finding any useful links, could you help me out with this? I'm sure that I can't learn Java if lacking such a tool! Thank you!

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      This remembers me the huge sheet of paper with the MFC class hierarchy printed on, we had many years ago at my former company.

      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
      [My articles]

      In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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        When working in .NET environment, I really can't imagine how blind I am if there is not so-called Object Browser or something similar, with it I can explore .NET world myself at least to get general understanding first before searching for more from the Internet. I think any huge libraries like .NET should have such a tool, but now when working with Netbean for java programming, I can't find such a helpful tool, I'm blinded to java APIs when working with Netbean. I have searched to know if such a tool does exists in Netbean and it seems that I have to install it separatedly from the full installation of Netbean that I've done before, why is Netbean not integrated with such a helpful tool? I currently don't know how to install that tool (where to download?) to use with Netbean, of course much search has been done without finding any useful links, could you help me out with this? I'm sure that I can't learn Java if lacking such a tool! Thank you!

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Could you please put some paragraph breaks in there? I got lost halfway through it.

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          This remembers me the huge sheet of paper with the MFC class hierarchy printed on, we had many years ago at my former company.

          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
          [My articles]

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          Pete OHanlon
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          I still have that from MFC 1 days. *Sigh* happy days.

          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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            I still have that from MFC 1 days. *Sigh* happy days.

            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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            I never been a great fan of MFC. The Happiest Days of Our Lives my life were the ZX Spectrum ones.

            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
            [My articles]

            In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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              I never been a great fan of MFC. The Happiest Days of Our Lives my life were the ZX Spectrum ones.

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
              [My articles]

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              Pete OHanlon
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              The thing about MFC; at the time I was using it, only 3 people in the company knew it - then ATL came out and that was whittled down to 1. Me. :-D

              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                When working in .NET environment, I really can't imagine how blind I am if there is not so-called Object Browser or something similar, with it I can explore .NET world myself at least to get general understanding first before searching for more from the Internet. I think any huge libraries like .NET should have such a tool, but now when working with Netbean for java programming, I can't find such a helpful tool, I'm blinded to java APIs when working with Netbean. I have searched to know if such a tool does exists in Netbean and it seems that I have to install it separatedly from the full installation of Netbean that I've done before, why is Netbean not integrated with such a helpful tool? I currently don't know how to install that tool (where to download?) to use with Netbean, of course much search has been done without finding any useful links, could you help me out with this? I'm sure that I can't learn Java if lacking such a tool! Thank you!

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                Espen Harlinn
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                Eclipse has a similar feature for java ...

                Espen Harlinn Senior Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services

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                  The thing about MFC; at the time I was using it, only 3 people in the company knew it - then ATL came out and that was whittled down to 1. Me. :-D

                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                  "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                  It is dangerous to have only one person in a company know what he is doing.

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                    When working in .NET environment, I really can't imagine how blind I am if there is not so-called Object Browser or something similar, with it I can explore .NET world myself at least to get general understanding first before searching for more from the Internet. I think any huge libraries like .NET should have such a tool, but now when working with Netbean for java programming, I can't find such a helpful tool, I'm blinded to java APIs when working with Netbean. I have searched to know if such a tool does exists in Netbean and it seems that I have to install it separatedly from the full installation of Netbean that I've done before, why is Netbean not integrated with such a helpful tool? I currently don't know how to install that tool (where to download?) to use with Netbean, of course much search has been done without finding any useful links, could you help me out with this? I'm sure that I can't learn Java if lacking such a tool! Thank you!

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                    I don't know if I'm outing myself here but I never use it. I just use intellisense which Netbeans, Eclipse Xcode etc all have a version of. After that I head for the docs. A browser i should use more often is the class browsers.

                    "You get that on the big jobs."

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                      I still have that from MFC 1 days. *Sigh* happy days.

                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                      And the foot long pile of manuals. I threw it all out this year. :sigh:

                      Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                        It is dangerous to have only one person in a company know what he is doing.

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        It is dangerous a good idea to have only at least one person in a company know what he is doing.

                        Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          When working in .NET environment, I really can't imagine how blind I am if there is not so-called Object Browser or something similar, with it I can explore .NET world myself at least to get general understanding first before searching for more from the Internet. I think any huge libraries like .NET should have such a tool, but now when working with Netbean for java programming, I can't find such a helpful tool, I'm blinded to java APIs when working with Netbean. I have searched to know if such a tool does exists in Netbean and it seems that I have to install it separatedly from the full installation of Netbean that I've done before, why is Netbean not integrated with such a helpful tool? I currently don't know how to install that tool (where to download?) to use with Netbean, of course much search has been done without finding any useful links, could you help me out with this? I'm sure that I can't learn Java if lacking such a tool! Thank you!

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                          I know it's there, but I never use it. Instead I use a combination of Solution Explorer and Intellisense combined with the Recollection Explorer fitted as standard to Griff units.

                          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            And the foot long pile of manuals. I threw it all out this year. :sigh:

                            Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            I got rid of mine a long time ago.

                            Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              It is dangerous a good idea to have only at least one person in a company know what he is doing.

                              Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              Now I know where we're going wrong...


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                                It is dangerous to have only one person in a company know what he is doing.

                                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                Pete OHanlon
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                                It wasn't dangerous for me at all, especially when it came to pay reviews - and the good thing was that we had 3 monthly reviews. :-D I got a payrise each time.

                                Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                  I got rid of mine a long time ago.

                                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                  "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                  No, come on, think of the uses! Door stop. Monitor height adjuster. Ballistic weapon.

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                                    When working in .NET environment, I really can't imagine how blind I am if there is not so-called Object Browser or something similar, with it I can explore .NET world myself at least to get general understanding first before searching for more from the Internet. I think any huge libraries like .NET should have such a tool, but now when working with Netbean for java programming, I can't find such a helpful tool, I'm blinded to java APIs when working with Netbean. I have searched to know if such a tool does exists in Netbean and it seems that I have to install it separatedly from the full installation of Netbean that I've done before, why is Netbean not integrated with such a helpful tool? I currently don't know how to install that tool (where to download?) to use with Netbean, of course much search has been done without finding any useful links, could you help me out with this? I'm sure that I can't learn Java if lacking such a tool! Thank you!

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                                    Firo Atrum Ventus
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                                    Ctrl+Space is enough for me, considering NetBeans' javadoc is much more detailed than Intelisense.

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                                      No, come on, think of the uses! Door stop. Monitor height adjuster. Ballistic weapon.

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      Gizz wrote:

                                      Door stop. Monitor height adjuster. Ballistic weapon.

                                      I have lots and lots of old MSDN subscriptions that are more than adequate for the task.

                                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                        When working in .NET environment, I really can't imagine how blind I am if there is not so-called Object Browser or something similar, with it I can explore .NET world myself at least to get general understanding first before searching for more from the Internet. I think any huge libraries like .NET should have such a tool, but now when working with Netbean for java programming, I can't find such a helpful tool, I'm blinded to java APIs when working with Netbean. I have searched to know if such a tool does exists in Netbean and it seems that I have to install it separatedly from the full installation of Netbean that I've done before, why is Netbean not integrated with such a helpful tool? I currently don't know how to install that tool (where to download?) to use with Netbean, of course much search has been done without finding any useful links, could you help me out with this? I'm sure that I can't learn Java if lacking such a tool! Thank you!

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                                        Chris Losinger
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                                        never used it

                                        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                          It is dangerous to have only one person in a company know what he is doing.

                                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                          That's a manifest against creativity. I do know few companies really appreciate creative developers. :)

                                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                          [My articles]

                                          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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