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  • F Florin Jurcovici 0

    Ternaries ... you're right, as long as the expressions in the ternaries are simple, they are readable. But they can be simple initially, and become monstrous as the code evolves. Which may be why many people avoid ternaries - the same as with braces around blocks consisting of a single statement. Although I don't buy either (no ternaries and braces around single statements) - you write the code as is fit initially, and reformat/refactor as needed when you change it. There's another horror format: boolean b; ... if (b == true) return x; else return y; A variant is b being a boolean function.

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    BobJanova
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    Florin Jurcovici wrote:

    Although I don't buy either (no ternaries and braces around single statements) - you write the code as is fit initially, and reformat/refactor as needed when you change it.

    Yes, exactly. And a simple

    return statement ? a : b

    ... is not too hard to read, for sure. Someone here is really passive-aggressive anti-ternary, judging by the downvote my other post got :~ Heh, that pattern is even worse.

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    • B BobJanova

      That

      if(something)
      return true;
      else return false;

      ... is far too prevalent. Its cousin,

      if(something)
      return a;
      else return b;

      ... is at least understandable as some people have an allergic reaction to even simple ternaries (I have no idea why, they are a perfectly valid part of the language and have been since C). Interesting to see someone else who likes to do

      if(0 != ...)

      ... as well.

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      Vladimir Svyatski
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      BobJanova wrote:

      Interesting to see someone else who likes to do

      if(0 != ...)

      ... as well.

      This is called Yoda condition.

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      • R Rajesh Anuhya

        Today I found this code, from DAL class

        public Boolean Execute_NoN_Query(string Sqlstring)
        {
        int ResultFlag = 0;
        ResultFlag = MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring);

                  if  (ResultFlag != 0)
                      return true;
                  else
                      return false;
          }
        

        My Code is ....

        public Boolean Execute_NoN_Query(string Sqlstring)
        {
        return (0 != MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring));
        }

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        Donkey Master
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        :thumbsdown:I disagree with the point the OP is trying to make. The original code is easier to read:confused: and debug :(( . The second code has me counting nested parenthesis, :doh: and commas, it takes longer to read and understand when you're not familiar with the code, and it's harder to spot a factual error. X| I reckon that when you're reading the same code over and over :^) , the shorter route works,:cool: but in a professional environment,:suss: readable code is better than clever code.:thumbsup: Except maybe when performance is critical, :) and your compiler is not awesome, ;P like in some embedded systems, or some video games. :|

        "Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." - Edsger Dijkstra

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        • M Mohibur Rashid

          Agreed with Peter, Beside this just reduce the code, but I dont see any performance improvement. also in some programming language comparison does not return only true and false but sometime it also return -1(VBA)

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          the Kris
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          If examining the result while debugging is your main concern, you can still write

          int ResultFlag = MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring);

          return ResultFlag != 0;

          I've seen worse though...

          const bool valTrue = true;
          const bool valFalse = false;

          bool doTheWork()
          {
          ...more impressive code...

          if ( result == valTrue ) return true;
          else return false;
          }

          That coder was preparing himself for the time that valTrue became false or something!?

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          • D Donkey Master

            :thumbsdown:I disagree with the point the OP is trying to make. The original code is easier to read:confused: and debug :(( . The second code has me counting nested parenthesis, :doh: and commas, it takes longer to read and understand when you're not familiar with the code, and it's harder to spot a factual error. X| I reckon that when you're reading the same code over and over :^) , the shorter route works,:cool: but in a professional environment,:suss: readable code is better than clever code.:thumbsup: Except maybe when performance is critical, :) and your compiler is not awesome, ;P like in some embedded systems, or some video games. :|

            "Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." - Edsger Dijkstra

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            Rajesh Anuhya
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            Good, every one saying about the readability and Debugging, However this is a Small code, which is called by many classes. my point is why should i declare a extra variable "resultflag", where this method called 5000+ times in every 10 seconds.

            my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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              :thumbsdown:I disagree with the point the OP is trying to make. The original code is easier to read:confused: and debug :(( . The second code has me counting nested parenthesis, :doh: and commas, it takes longer to read and understand when you're not familiar with the code, and it's harder to spot a factual error. X| I reckon that when you're reading the same code over and over :^) , the shorter route works,:cool: but in a professional environment,:suss: readable code is better than clever code.:thumbsup: Except maybe when performance is critical, :) and your compiler is not awesome, ;P like in some embedded systems, or some video games. :|

              "Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." - Edsger Dijkstra

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              BobJanova
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              One line is more readable than four when three of the four are wasted space. That's because you get three more lines of other code on your screen which help to show the class context (unless the whole class fits on one screen, but that's unusual). There's only one operation in that method which is complex enough to require reading, and putting pointless extra lines makes it less readable. And I really hope you were intentionally making a point about spurious material with all those emoticons and extraneous formatting, because it makes your post much harder to read.

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                One line is more readable than four when three of the four are wasted space. That's because you get three more lines of other code on your screen which help to show the class context (unless the whole class fits on one screen, but that's unusual). There's only one operation in that method which is complex enough to require reading, and putting pointless extra lines makes it less readable. And I really hope you were intentionally making a point about spurious material with all those emoticons and extraneous formatting, because it makes your post much harder to read.

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                Rajesh Anuhya
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                Quote:

                And I really hope you were intentionally making a point about spurious material with all those emoticons and extraneous formatting, because it makes your post much harder to read.

                punch :thumbsup: +5

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                • P Peter_in_2780

                  There is a valid reason for using the ResultFlag form. It's called debugging. How do you find out what went wrong when the ExecuteNonQuery returns nonzero? Don't you think the value returned might give you a clue? Peter

                  Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994.

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                  Snorri Kristjansson
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                  Agree. There is another VERY important reason why you should NOT change working production code unless you really must; Don't change tried and tested code! Ok. this code sample you show us is a bit clumsy but it works, right? So why change it? IMHO a good programmer must learnt NOT to change production code unless it's really really needed.

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                  • S Snorri Kristjansson

                    Agree. There is another VERY important reason why you should NOT change working production code unless you really must; Don't change tried and tested code! Ok. this code sample you show us is a bit clumsy but it works, right? So why change it? IMHO a good programmer must learnt NOT to change production code unless it's really really needed.

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                    BobJanova
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                    I definitely disagree with you there. Cleaning up code results in a (marginally, for any particular instance, but it builds up) nicer codebase to work in and that results in better productivity for everyone on the team. If it's 'tried and tested' then you can check that the tests still pass and therefore be sure you haven't broken anything with your cleanup.

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                    • R Rajesh Anuhya

                      Good, every one saying about the readability and Debugging, However this is a Small code, which is called by many classes. my point is why should i declare a extra variable "resultflag", where this method called 5000+ times in every 10 seconds.

                      my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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                      Rob Grainger
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                      I shouldn't worry about it, if you're accessing a data layer any saving from avoiding allocating 32-bits on the stack is negligible. Premature optimisation is the root of all evil. The only actual "improvement" you've made is that the code occupies less space on screen. All the "improvements" you claim will be performed by a decent optimising compiler on release code anyway. Design for readability/maintainability, then optimise as you have evidence it is worthwhile.

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                      • B BobJanova

                        I definitely disagree with you there. Cleaning up code results in a (marginally, for any particular instance, but it builds up) nicer codebase to work in and that results in better productivity for everyone on the team. If it's 'tried and tested' then you can check that the tests still pass and therefore be sure you haven't broken anything with your cleanup.

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                        Snorri Kristjansson
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                        I agree - Cleaning up the codebase is very tempting, it's much nicer to work on "clean" code. But my point is this: Cleaning up production code just for the sake of making it look "nice" is very dangerous because (depending on code size of course) you WILL create new bugs in doing so.

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                        • S Snorri Kristjansson

                          I agree - Cleaning up the codebase is very tempting, it's much nicer to work on "clean" code. But my point is this: Cleaning up production code just for the sake of making it look "nice" is very dangerous because (depending on code size of course) you WILL create new bugs in doing so.

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                          BobJanova
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                          You won't if the code is properly tested, or if you can demonstrate equivalence for all inputs (often not as hard as it sounds).

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                          • S Snorri Kristjansson

                            I agree - Cleaning up the codebase is very tempting, it's much nicer to work on "clean" code. But my point is this: Cleaning up production code just for the sake of making it look "nice" is very dangerous because (depending on code size of course) you WILL create new bugs in doing so.

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                            Harley L Pebley
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                            Snorri wrote:

                            But my point is this: Cleaning up production code just for the sake of making it look "nice" is very dangerous because you SOMETIMES will create new bugs in doing so.

                            FTFY. :-) And sometimes cleaning up code will fix latent bugs that no one has run into yet, or possibly they've hit them and just haven't reported them, or possibly they've hit them and thought that was normal behavior. Creating new bugs will be mitigated with unit tests; which of course one always has before refactoring.

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                            • R Rajesh Anuhya

                              Good, every one saying about the readability and Debugging, However this is a Small code, which is called by many classes. my point is why should i declare a extra variable "resultflag", where this method called 5000+ times in every 10 seconds.

                              my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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                              mrchief_2000
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                              Declaring an extra variable doesn't affect your performance at all. Compilers can (and will) easily do the code reduction you did (note what you did is not an optimization). On the other, having that extra variable does aid in readability and debugging. The only rewrite I would is (if I absolutely have to change something for no reason other than style):

                              return ResultFlag != 0;

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                              • R Rajesh Anuhya

                                Good, every one saying about the readability and Debugging, However this is a Small code, which is called by many classes. my point is why should i declare a extra variable "resultflag", where this method called 5000+ times in every 10 seconds.

                                my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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                                jschell
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                                Rajesh Anuhya wrote:

                                However this is a Small code, which is called by many classes.
                                 
                                my point is why should i declare a extra variable "resultflag", where this method called 5000+ times in every 10 seconds

                                I can only suppose that that is a general statement that has nothing to do with the code presented. First the code presented suggests it is doing a database call. You will not be able to even measure the performance gain that you are claiming because of that. The impact of the database call will completely overwhelm the the measurement of what you are claiming. I would suspect that even the variability of network traffic itself would reduce your measurement to the noise level. Second if your goal is to improve the performance of the that code then you must reduce the number of calls to the database. For example by using a memory cache. That would have a significant impact. Finally the code is using a return value that is going to end up on the stack regardless of whether it is explicitly stated or implicitly stated. I wouldn't be suprised if the emitted code is almost basically the same between the two versions.

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                                • B BobJanova

                                  Florin Jurcovici wrote:

                                  Although I don't buy either (no ternaries and braces around single statements) - you write the code as is fit initially, and reformat/refactor as needed when you change it.

                                  Yes, exactly. And a simple

                                  return statement ? a : b

                                  ... is not too hard to read, for sure. Someone here is really passive-aggressive anti-ternary, judging by the downvote my other post got :~ Heh, that pattern is even worse.

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                                  James Lonero
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                                  Probably gets paid by lines of code.

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                                  • R Rajesh Anuhya

                                    Today I found this code, from DAL class

                                    public Boolean Execute_NoN_Query(string Sqlstring)
                                    {
                                    int ResultFlag = 0;
                                    ResultFlag = MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring);

                                              if  (ResultFlag != 0)
                                                  return true;
                                              else
                                                  return false;
                                      }
                                    

                                    My Code is ....

                                    public Boolean Execute_NoN_Query(string Sqlstring)
                                    {
                                    return (0 != MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring));
                                    }

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                                    KP Lee
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                                    I actually came up with your result before I read further and saw your result. Then I thought, No, you(me) are wrong. Sure as shooting, as soon as I code it that way, when the return is 5 call this routine, when less than 0 call another routine otherwise call a third routine, then return true when the result isn't 0. If I make these 5 statements into 2, they'll never ask to do that. :laugh:

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                                    • M mrchief_2000

                                      Declaring an extra variable doesn't affect your performance at all. Compilers can (and will) easily do the code reduction you did (note what you did is not an optimization). On the other, having that extra variable does aid in readability and debugging. The only rewrite I would is (if I absolutely have to change something for no reason other than style):

                                      return ResultFlag != 0;

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                                      KP Lee
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                                      Actually, I would move the int declaration down one command, shorten the variable name and use your return with (). I haven't tried it, but I'd be surprised C# would compile your return without ().

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                                      • H Harley L Pebley

                                        Snorri wrote:

                                        But my point is this: Cleaning up production code just for the sake of making it look "nice" is very dangerous because you SOMETIMES will create new bugs in doing so.

                                        FTFY. :-) And sometimes cleaning up code will fix latent bugs that no one has run into yet, or possibly they've hit them and just haven't reported them, or possibly they've hit them and thought that was normal behavior. Creating new bugs will be mitigated with unit tests; which of course one always has before refactoring.

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                                        Snorri Kristjansson
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                                        Don't show a quote from me that you have changed!!!!!

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                                        • S Snorri Kristjansson

                                          Don't show a quote from me that you have changed!!!!!

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                                          Nagy Vilmos
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                                          Don't get upset. FTFY is a common short hand here, it means "Fixed That For You". Whenever a quote is followed by FTFY, the quoter has intentionally changed the text. There are a myriad of reasons for this. Often it is done for humorous effect or, as in this case, to show that the quoter almost agrees with the OP except for a minor difference. [edit] As a member for eight years, I'd assume you would know this.


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