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  • P Peter_in_2780

    There is a valid reason for using the ResultFlag form. It's called debugging. How do you find out what went wrong when the ExecuteNonQuery returns nonzero? Don't you think the value returned might give you a clue? Peter

    Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994.

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    Snorri Kristjansson
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    Agree. There is another VERY important reason why you should NOT change working production code unless you really must; Don't change tried and tested code! Ok. this code sample you show us is a bit clumsy but it works, right? So why change it? IMHO a good programmer must learnt NOT to change production code unless it's really really needed.

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    • S Snorri Kristjansson

      Agree. There is another VERY important reason why you should NOT change working production code unless you really must; Don't change tried and tested code! Ok. this code sample you show us is a bit clumsy but it works, right? So why change it? IMHO a good programmer must learnt NOT to change production code unless it's really really needed.

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      BobJanova
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      I definitely disagree with you there. Cleaning up code results in a (marginally, for any particular instance, but it builds up) nicer codebase to work in and that results in better productivity for everyone on the team. If it's 'tried and tested' then you can check that the tests still pass and therefore be sure you haven't broken anything with your cleanup.

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      • R Rajesh Anuhya

        Good, every one saying about the readability and Debugging, However this is a Small code, which is called by many classes. my point is why should i declare a extra variable "resultflag", where this method called 5000+ times in every 10 seconds.

        my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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        Rob Grainger
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        I shouldn't worry about it, if you're accessing a data layer any saving from avoiding allocating 32-bits on the stack is negligible. Premature optimisation is the root of all evil. The only actual "improvement" you've made is that the code occupies less space on screen. All the "improvements" you claim will be performed by a decent optimising compiler on release code anyway. Design for readability/maintainability, then optimise as you have evidence it is worthwhile.

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        • B BobJanova

          I definitely disagree with you there. Cleaning up code results in a (marginally, for any particular instance, but it builds up) nicer codebase to work in and that results in better productivity for everyone on the team. If it's 'tried and tested' then you can check that the tests still pass and therefore be sure you haven't broken anything with your cleanup.

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          Snorri Kristjansson
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          I agree - Cleaning up the codebase is very tempting, it's much nicer to work on "clean" code. But my point is this: Cleaning up production code just for the sake of making it look "nice" is very dangerous because (depending on code size of course) you WILL create new bugs in doing so.

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          • S Snorri Kristjansson

            I agree - Cleaning up the codebase is very tempting, it's much nicer to work on "clean" code. But my point is this: Cleaning up production code just for the sake of making it look "nice" is very dangerous because (depending on code size of course) you WILL create new bugs in doing so.

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            BobJanova
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            You won't if the code is properly tested, or if you can demonstrate equivalence for all inputs (often not as hard as it sounds).

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            • S Snorri Kristjansson

              I agree - Cleaning up the codebase is very tempting, it's much nicer to work on "clean" code. But my point is this: Cleaning up production code just for the sake of making it look "nice" is very dangerous because (depending on code size of course) you WILL create new bugs in doing so.

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              Harley L Pebley
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              Snorri wrote:

              But my point is this: Cleaning up production code just for the sake of making it look "nice" is very dangerous because you SOMETIMES will create new bugs in doing so.

              FTFY. :-) And sometimes cleaning up code will fix latent bugs that no one has run into yet, or possibly they've hit them and just haven't reported them, or possibly they've hit them and thought that was normal behavior. Creating new bugs will be mitigated with unit tests; which of course one always has before refactoring.

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              • R Rajesh Anuhya

                Good, every one saying about the readability and Debugging, However this is a Small code, which is called by many classes. my point is why should i declare a extra variable "resultflag", where this method called 5000+ times in every 10 seconds.

                my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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                mrchief_2000
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                Declaring an extra variable doesn't affect your performance at all. Compilers can (and will) easily do the code reduction you did (note what you did is not an optimization). On the other, having that extra variable does aid in readability and debugging. The only rewrite I would is (if I absolutely have to change something for no reason other than style):

                return ResultFlag != 0;

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                • R Rajesh Anuhya

                  Good, every one saying about the readability and Debugging, However this is a Small code, which is called by many classes. my point is why should i declare a extra variable "resultflag", where this method called 5000+ times in every 10 seconds.

                  my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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                  jschell
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                  Rajesh Anuhya wrote:

                  However this is a Small code, which is called by many classes.
                   
                  my point is why should i declare a extra variable "resultflag", where this method called 5000+ times in every 10 seconds

                  I can only suppose that that is a general statement that has nothing to do with the code presented. First the code presented suggests it is doing a database call. You will not be able to even measure the performance gain that you are claiming because of that. The impact of the database call will completely overwhelm the the measurement of what you are claiming. I would suspect that even the variability of network traffic itself would reduce your measurement to the noise level. Second if your goal is to improve the performance of the that code then you must reduce the number of calls to the database. For example by using a memory cache. That would have a significant impact. Finally the code is using a return value that is going to end up on the stack regardless of whether it is explicitly stated or implicitly stated. I wouldn't be suprised if the emitted code is almost basically the same between the two versions.

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                  • B BobJanova

                    Florin Jurcovici wrote:

                    Although I don't buy either (no ternaries and braces around single statements) - you write the code as is fit initially, and reformat/refactor as needed when you change it.

                    Yes, exactly. And a simple

                    return statement ? a : b

                    ... is not too hard to read, for sure. Someone here is really passive-aggressive anti-ternary, judging by the downvote my other post got :~ Heh, that pattern is even worse.

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                    James Lonero
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                    Probably gets paid by lines of code.

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                    • R Rajesh Anuhya

                      Today I found this code, from DAL class

                      public Boolean Execute_NoN_Query(string Sqlstring)
                      {
                      int ResultFlag = 0;
                      ResultFlag = MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring);

                                if  (ResultFlag != 0)
                                    return true;
                                else
                                    return false;
                        }
                      

                      My Code is ....

                      public Boolean Execute_NoN_Query(string Sqlstring)
                      {
                      return (0 != MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring));
                      }

                      my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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                      KP Lee
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                      I actually came up with your result before I read further and saw your result. Then I thought, No, you(me) are wrong. Sure as shooting, as soon as I code it that way, when the return is 5 call this routine, when less than 0 call another routine otherwise call a third routine, then return true when the result isn't 0. If I make these 5 statements into 2, they'll never ask to do that. :laugh:

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                      • M mrchief_2000

                        Declaring an extra variable doesn't affect your performance at all. Compilers can (and will) easily do the code reduction you did (note what you did is not an optimization). On the other, having that extra variable does aid in readability and debugging. The only rewrite I would is (if I absolutely have to change something for no reason other than style):

                        return ResultFlag != 0;

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                        KP Lee
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                        Actually, I would move the int declaration down one command, shorten the variable name and use your return with (). I haven't tried it, but I'd be surprised C# would compile your return without ().

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                        • H Harley L Pebley

                          Snorri wrote:

                          But my point is this: Cleaning up production code just for the sake of making it look "nice" is very dangerous because you SOMETIMES will create new bugs in doing so.

                          FTFY. :-) And sometimes cleaning up code will fix latent bugs that no one has run into yet, or possibly they've hit them and just haven't reported them, or possibly they've hit them and thought that was normal behavior. Creating new bugs will be mitigated with unit tests; which of course one always has before refactoring.

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                          Snorri Kristjansson
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                          Don't show a quote from me that you have changed!!!!!

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                          • S Snorri Kristjansson

                            Don't show a quote from me that you have changed!!!!!

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            Don't get upset. FTFY is a common short hand here, it means "Fixed That For You". Whenever a quote is followed by FTFY, the quoter has intentionally changed the text. There are a myriad of reasons for this. Often it is done for humorous effect or, as in this case, to show that the quoter almost agrees with the OP except for a minor difference. [edit] As a member for eight years, I'd assume you would know this.


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                              Don't get upset. FTFY is a common short hand here, it means "Fixed That For You". Whenever a quote is followed by FTFY, the quoter has intentionally changed the text. There are a myriad of reasons for this. Often it is done for humorous effect or, as in this case, to show that the quoter almost agrees with the OP except for a minor difference. [edit] As a member for eight years, I'd assume you would know this.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                              Lost User
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                              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                              As a member for eight years, I'd presume you would know this.

                              FTFY :)

                              And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                              "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                              And I smiled and was happy
                              And it came worse.

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                                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                As a member for eight years, I'd presume you would know this.

                                FTFY :)

                                And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                And I smiled and was happy
                                And it came worse.

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                                Nagy Vilmos
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                                CDP1802 wrote:

                                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                As a member for eight years, I'd presume you would know this be sober by now.

                                FTFY

                                ftftfyfy


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                • S Snorri Kristjansson

                                  Agree. There is another VERY important reason why you should NOT change working production code unless you really must; Don't change tried and tested code! Ok. this code sample you show us is a bit clumsy but it works, right? So why change it? IMHO a good programmer must learnt NOT to change production code unless it's really really needed.

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                                  johannesnestler
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                                  I think I have to support your statements downvoted by others - you seem to stand allone with your opinion - Not any longer! @All the theorists with the "well tested code"... I learned the lesson not to change production code "on the fly". Because sometime a piece of code looks stupid or ugly - but it's just an undocumented workarround for a bug in an underlaying system or whatever. It's not always good to assume all other programmers are idiots... So if I change (or better "refactor") production code - this is my intention - it's like adding a new feature, and yes if there are unit tests in place, it helps. But @all the "perfect code" guys: If it is a "well tested code"-project, unit tests exists - how likley is it to find a real coding horror, isn't it more likely to find it in the "not so well tested" code bases (unit tests??? - whats a "unit"?). I view myself as a "perfectionist" while coding, code style nazi, refactoring fan,... - but there is a real world out there where "perfection" most times mean: "Not complete crap" - I worked on tons of codes in my life, ranging in style and effort from "bloody beginner" to "code god" but "academic perfection" I have rarely seen in a non trivial product. Don't get me wrong - I'm always a fan of "better/shorter code" - but some commenters may have to go through some real projects (why not let's say > 1million lines of code), and learn to leave the existing code - if nobody complains about it - alone! :rose:

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                                  • R Rajesh Anuhya

                                    Good, every one saying about the readability and Debugging, However this is a Small code, which is called by many classes. my point is why should i declare a extra variable "resultflag", where this method called 5000+ times in every 10 seconds.

                                    my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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                                    johannesnestler
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                                    omg - bad luck with this example for your statement - have a look at the resulting IL - the variable declaration will be optimized away in the release build... If you would realy gain performance...

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                                    • R Rajesh Anuhya

                                      Today I found this code, from DAL class

                                      public Boolean Execute_NoN_Query(string Sqlstring)
                                      {
                                      int ResultFlag = 0;
                                      ResultFlag = MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring);

                                                if  (ResultFlag != 0)
                                                    return true;
                                                else
                                                    return false;
                                        }
                                      

                                      My Code is ....

                                      public Boolean Execute_NoN_Query(string Sqlstring)
                                      {
                                      return (0 != MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring));
                                      }

                                      my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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                                      RobCroll
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                                      I would have fixed the argument name "Sqlstring" while I was at it. :)

                                      "You get that on the big jobs."

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                                      • T the Kris

                                        If examining the result while debugging is your main concern, you can still write

                                        int ResultFlag = MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring);

                                        return ResultFlag != 0;

                                        I've seen worse though...

                                        const bool valTrue = true;
                                        const bool valFalse = false;

                                        bool doTheWork()
                                        {
                                        ...more impressive code...

                                        if ( result == valTrue ) return true;
                                        else return false;
                                        }

                                        That coder was preparing himself for the time that valTrue became false or something!?

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                                        loctrice
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                                        I see that all the time. You have to change doTheWork to workData though

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                                        • T the Kris

                                          If examining the result while debugging is your main concern, you can still write

                                          int ResultFlag = MSSqlHelper.SqlHelper.ExecuteNonQuery(SqlServerConnection.Cn, CommandType.Text, Sqlstring);

                                          return ResultFlag != 0;

                                          I've seen worse though...

                                          const bool valTrue = true;
                                          const bool valFalse = false;

                                          bool doTheWork()
                                          {
                                          ...more impressive code...

                                          if ( result == valTrue ) return true;
                                          else return false;
                                          }

                                          That coder was preparing himself for the time that valTrue became false or something!?

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                                          AspDotNetDev
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                                          Wow, that is bad. They don't even use an abstract factory pattern to generate valTrue and valFalse. What happens if you want to change how valTrue and valFalse change later on, but without changing the DLL!?

                                          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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