Got the boot
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
Sorry to hear about that but your experience with so-called lady bosses partially mirrors my wife's experience with hers. She works for a local NHS trust here in the south-east UK. Just about the entire management structure at the hospital where she's based is female. The problem with that is that there is too much back-stabbing going on and inept decisions made which change by the week, well almost. When I told her that they need more men at the NHS she agreed. I'm not saying that men are any better but there needs to be a balance between the two as decisions made exclusively by one group are to the detriment of everyone. Where women make decisions in the NHS you will often find failed initiatives and inconsistent patterns of management. You need that balance and your experience has been skewed by a woman who seems incapable of seeing a balanced perspective. When I was made redundant in 2009 the company I was at had both a senior male and female HR manager. It did not make the experience of redundancy any more agreeable but having access to a balanced HR made the experience more representative and open. All the very best in your next venture and may it go much better than the one you've been freed from.
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
An interesting situation. You tried to do the right thing, but it was a very difficult situation for your employer. It can go either of two ways: They talk with you about why you are looking and try and negotiate a change to your duties, package or conditions in order to keep you, or they look at it as an excuse to let go someone who they didn't feel was a fit. Or, they just do the knee jerk reaction, get all offended, and boot you. How would you react if you were the boss, and how would you prefer an employee to handle the situation if you were the boss? It's tricky, but in my view there really should be no surprises. If your manager was taking an interest he or she would already know you were looking, or should have already let you go if you weren't a fit.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
So for the courtesy of letting her know that you've applied for another job she lays you off? She sounds really professional. She probably viewed your interest in another job as "cheating on her". I hope she gets a taste of her own medicine one day - probably not though, usually managers that bad get into the position by first "assuming the position". :-\ On the plus side she did you a favor. Having worked for poisonous management myself I can assure you the absolute best thing that can happen is to get out early. Good luck in your job search.
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
Some employers require that you notify your manager prior to applying for another position within the company. Everyone that has posted already have made some very good points. Take this as an opportunity to find something or someplace better. Good luck in your search. :rose:
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
Sorry to hear about the lay off; I know that's always tough to accept even when you know it's coming. At least you did the "right thing" and acted professionally. Good luck on finding something else. I hope this is the door of opportunity opening for you!
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
That's a damn shame. I'm sorry to hear this.
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SilimSayo wrote:
I was advised to inform my boss before applying.
Link so we can all see the people who gave you bad advice. ;P Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Good luck finding something else soon.
I don't think it was bad advice... I think it's probably more like the boss didn't like him to begin with and just needed an excuse to give him the boot. Unfortunate... personalities shouldn't factor in sound decision making but they often do.
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
You have my best wishes. Good luck for the job search. I hope things work out well for you. At least the market for developers is pretty good in Canada right now.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
That's rather unfortunate... but informing her was the right thing to do (professional courtesy). At least this may open up the opportunity for you to actually find a job that you'll like doing. Best of luck on your new journey.. :)
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
Sorry to hear that. That's precisely why you never tell anyone you're looking. Not to make light of your situation, but are you going to apply to the "programmer analyst" position that you wanted to apply to but changed your mind in the end? I bet if you got the interview it would make for one of a hell interesting conversation... :wtf:
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
Goodluck, I've been searching since October. For some reason a lot of the places I applied to early on required a lot of travel. On the plus side, hiring seems to be picking up this month, November and December had dismal prospects.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
That sucks - sorry to hear about that. When you find yourself with a good team and good boss you will probably look back and think 'thank goodness I'm not there anymore!' Good luck in your job hunt ;)
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Sorry to hear that. That's precisely why you never tell anyone you're looking. Not to make light of your situation, but are you going to apply to the "programmer analyst" position that you wanted to apply to but changed your mind in the end? I bet if you got the interview it would make for one of a hell interesting conversation... :wtf:
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
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I don't think it was bad advice... I think it's probably more like the boss didn't like him to begin with and just needed an excuse to give him the boot. Unfortunate... personalities shouldn't factor in sound decision making but they often do.
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Perhaps this is a sign, that you should really be a programmer :) Good luck.
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yeah... the advice was sound; I just didn't hit it off with the boss so it was a question of time.
At least now you'll have the opportunity to find something else that you'll really like... and hopefully a better boss as well.
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It would really be awkward and HR would probably not invite me for an interview after they just gave me the pink slip.
You never know... maybe booting you was your boss lady's way of telling you to apply for the other job! In any case, every time I've switched jobs, it's turned out better for me, better job, better pay. So it will probably be for you! Good luck!
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Goodluck, I've been searching since October. For some reason a lot of the places I applied to early on required a lot of travel. On the plus side, hiring seems to be picking up this month, November and December had dismal prospects.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
It is like that typically because of the fiscal year ending in December. They are out of money by December, but, oddly, by January they have so much money they don't know what to do with it. Odd, the difference 31 days can make.