Got the boot
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SilimSayo wrote:
I was advised to inform my boss before applying.
Link so we can all see the people who gave you bad advice. ;P Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Good luck finding something else soon.
I don't think it was bad advice... I think it's probably more like the boss didn't like him to begin with and just needed an excuse to give him the boot. Unfortunate... personalities shouldn't factor in sound decision making but they often do.
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
You have my best wishes. Good luck for the job search. I hope things work out well for you. At least the market for developers is pretty good in Canada right now.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
That's rather unfortunate... but informing her was the right thing to do (professional courtesy). At least this may open up the opportunity for you to actually find a job that you'll like doing. Best of luck on your new journey.. :)
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
Sorry to hear that. That's precisely why you never tell anyone you're looking. Not to make light of your situation, but are you going to apply to the "programmer analyst" position that you wanted to apply to but changed your mind in the end? I bet if you got the interview it would make for one of a hell interesting conversation... :wtf:
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
Goodluck, I've been searching since October. For some reason a lot of the places I applied to early on required a lot of travel. On the plus side, hiring seems to be picking up this month, November and December had dismal prospects.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
That sucks - sorry to hear about that. When you find yourself with a good team and good boss you will probably look back and think 'thank goodness I'm not there anymore!' Good luck in your job hunt ;)
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Sorry to hear that. That's precisely why you never tell anyone you're looking. Not to make light of your situation, but are you going to apply to the "programmer analyst" position that you wanted to apply to but changed your mind in the end? I bet if you got the interview it would make for one of a hell interesting conversation... :wtf:
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
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I don't think it was bad advice... I think it's probably more like the boss didn't like him to begin with and just needed an excuse to give him the boot. Unfortunate... personalities shouldn't factor in sound decision making but they often do.
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Perhaps this is a sign, that you should really be a programmer :) Good luck.
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yeah... the advice was sound; I just didn't hit it off with the boss so it was a question of time.
At least now you'll have the opportunity to find something else that you'll really like... and hopefully a better boss as well.
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It would really be awkward and HR would probably not invite me for an interview after they just gave me the pink slip.
You never know... maybe booting you was your boss lady's way of telling you to apply for the other job! In any case, every time I've switched jobs, it's turned out better for me, better job, better pay. So it will probably be for you! Good luck!
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Goodluck, I've been searching since October. For some reason a lot of the places I applied to early on required a lot of travel. On the plus side, hiring seems to be picking up this month, November and December had dismal prospects.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
It is like that typically because of the fiscal year ending in December. They are out of money by December, but, oddly, by January they have so much money they don't know what to do with it. Odd, the difference 31 days can make.
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It is like that typically because of the fiscal year ending in December. They are out of money by December, but, oddly, by January they have so much money they don't know what to do with it. Odd, the difference 31 days can make.
Supposedly, people plan projects for the upcoming year and budget for them around now. This seems entirely rediculous that projects are measured and budgeted in increments of 12 months and expect to be able to start new ones now, and old ones to be finishing up. Darn accounting to heck.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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An interesting situation. You tried to do the right thing, but it was a very difficult situation for your employer. It can go either of two ways: They talk with you about why you are looking and try and negotiate a change to your duties, package or conditions in order to keep you, or they look at it as an excuse to let go someone who they didn't feel was a fit. Or, they just do the knee jerk reaction, get all offended, and boot you. How would you react if you were the boss, and how would you prefer an employee to handle the situation if you were the boss? It's tricky, but in my view there really should be no surprises. If your manager was taking an interest he or she would already know you were looking, or should have already let you go if you weren't a fit.
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In this case he could not hide the fact that he was looking for an alternate position as it was within the same company, so she'd have found out anyway. Had it been a different company, it'd have been extremely stupid to let her know that he was looking.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
That sucks, I am sorry to hear it. It sounds like she was just waiting for an excuse, and your expressing discontent then finishing an assignment was good enough. I hate to say it, but if she disliked you this much, she probably would not have given you a good recommendation for the other job anyway. Perhaps there is no "perfect job" out there, but some certainly suck less than others. The job market for coders was never bad here, and now there is a shortage. The last guy we hired was laid off from his previous employer for 3 days, interviewed here, and we made him an offer the next day because we were afraid someone else would get him. If you are annoyed with the company, leave feedback about them at GlassDoor.com (or similar site, that's the biggest one I know), to warn others. I have known lots of managers who were annoying backstabbing bitches. Mostly they were male. The only female boss I worked for was awesome. An excellent engineer and an inspiring leader. Sadly, she retired at age 48 (turns out she was pretty good at playing the stock market too). :-D
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Hey Cpians, a few days back, I posted about a dilema I was in. There was an opening as programmer analyst but I was in the Finance department as Financial Systems Analyst(I do systems stuff including programming but with a focus on ERP systems). My dilema was if I should go behind her back and apply. I was advised to inform my boss before applying. So I informed her of my intent to apply for the job. For some reason I decided against applying for the job because I was not sure as to whether it was what I wanted. Anyway, I informed by boss that I won't be apply for the job, and she gave me a thank you. Last Friday, I did a demo of an application I had written to integrate data from an online system to the ERP system. Imagine my surprise this morning when I got an invitation for a performance review. Before I went it, I almost certainly knew I was out. So I took my personal belongings to my car and then went for my "performance review". It was the boot indeed. I am having mixed feelings. One part of me is concerned about getting another job, another part of me is relieved I don't have to work for this lady. I have been laid off before and I have worked for many "boss ladies" before. However, I just could not click with this boss right from the start. Anyway just wanted to let off some steam.
Is it too late to apply for the AP job?
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In this case he could not hide the fact that he was looking for an alternate position as it was within the same company, so she'd have found out anyway. Had it been a different company, it'd have been extremely stupid to let her know that he was looking.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
I disagree, Nish. I've had a few times in my career when an employee approached me with a dilemma involving the very hard choice between applying for a different position in our company, or going outside to find another job. I appreciated very much the risk these people took in approaching me, and was gratified that they trusted me with so much at risk. In each case, I took the time to explore alternatives in order to find a proper fit; it was my hope to find a way to keep the person interested in staying in my group, but it didn't always work out that way. My second choice was to find a way to retain the employee for the company, at least, since we'd already invested so much in training and other expenses - at that time, it cost the company at least $10,000 just to obtain a security clearance, and I'm sure it's much more by now. If I could help an employee find a slot within the company that was a better fit for his or her personal goals, it would save us a bunch; always important when most of one's retirement savings is invested in company stock! :-D As a last resort, I've helped a team member or two to select from other offers, over drinks after work. A proper manager is far more than an administrator of company policy, but is also a mentor and guide for those placed under his direction, and it is part of his responsibility to build people, along with material assets. Sometimes that means we have to encourage a few to leave the nest and find another path. It doesn't matter that a few leave to join the competition, unless of course they're stealing valuable IP - that's an entirely different issue. But today's competitor may well be tomorrow's partner, and we all benefit if all parties have the best available, happily productive staff that can be hired. Our friend had the misfortune to work for a short-sighted, petty tyrant. This will all work out for the best, I predict, based on several decades of experience. If it had not been this issue, she would have fabricated another to give her an excuse for terminating him. We tend to cling to what we know, what is comfortable, rather than upsetting things. Often it works out that one of our ilk stays too long at a position that is a poor fit, simply because it causes a lot of discomfort to make a change. That's when Fate steps in to force us to change. Mark my words, this will one day be seen as the positive turning point in the OP's life, the day he was set free to find where he really needs to be.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Goodluck, I've been searching since October. For some reason a lot of the places I applied to early on required a lot of travel. On the plus side, hiring seems to be picking up this month, November and December had dismal prospects.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
Hm... I looked at your profile and I find it hard to imagine that someone with work experience like yours would have difficulty finding a job. Are you out of work, or are you just looking for a better position? I ask because I would like to align my work closer with financial sector, but your post is making me uneasy.
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Hm... I looked at your profile and I find it hard to imagine that someone with work experience like yours would have difficulty finding a job. Are you out of work, or are you just looking for a better position? I ask because I would like to align my work closer with financial sector, but your post is making me uneasy.
I've been looking for a job since early October. There was very little hiring in this industry until January though. I think I had some difficulty because of my salary history; I didn't want to earn less than I earned at my previous position. So I had to find a place that values my industry experience. Coincidentally, I found that place yesterday, though I'm starting temp to hire, probably because of my salary requirement.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson