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It can't just be me? (Ping with microsoft domains)

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  • A Albert Holguin

    Mark Nischalke wrote:

    just because the domain is available doesn't mean it can be pinged.

    Of course not, it's a service... the server has to be configured to respond. Plus firewalls have to allow it.

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    Andrew Rissing
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    Exactly.. +5

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    • D DaveAuld

      I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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      Roger Wright
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      It's not just you, Dave. I tried the same test, and received no replies. Your first hit must have broken the domain. Try tapping the keys more gently next time.

      Will Rogers never met me.

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      • D DaveAuld

        I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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        Albert Holguin
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        I just tried it... the MS domains don't appear to respond to pings. They may just not want people pinging their servers. Have we forgotten about the ping of death[^] already?

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        • A Albert Holguin

          I just tried it... the MS domains don't appear to respond to pings. They may just not want people pinging their servers. Have we forgotten about the ping of death[^] already?

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          DaveAuld
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          No I haven't forgotten, but I am sure the hardware used for handling the domains traffic should be more advanced than just simply blocking all pings.

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          • D DaveAuld

            No I haven't forgotten, but I am sure the hardware used for handling the domains traffic should be more advanced than just simply blocking all pings.

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            Andrew Rissing
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            Yeah, but sometimes the simplest solution is best.

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            • D DaveAuld

              No I haven't forgotten, but I am sure the hardware used for handling the domains traffic should be more advanced than just simply blocking all pings.

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              Albert Holguin
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              There's nothing to say that they're obligated to respond... that's what I mean, they probably chose not to as a company-wide policy. Look at how Windows determines internet connectivity (it does not involve pings): http://blog.superuser.com/2011/05/16/windows-7-network-awareness/[^]

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              • A Andrew Rissing

                Yeah, but sometimes the simplest solution is best.

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                Albert Holguin
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                Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS)? ...why not... :)

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                • D DaveAuld

                  I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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                  Henry Minute
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                  Purely conjecture, but some sort of anti DDOS measure. First ping from an address gets through, repeats within a certain time span fail?

                  Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                  • A Albert Holguin

                    There's nothing to say that they're obligated to respond... that's what I mean, they probably chose not to as a company-wide policy. Look at how Windows determines internet connectivity (it does not involve pings): http://blog.superuser.com/2011/05/16/windows-7-network-awareness/[^]

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                    DaveAuld
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                    Handy info in the link......may just have a use for that (and that use is how I came across the OP thing) :)

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                    • D DaveAuld

                      I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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                      Roger Wright
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                      After a bit of research:

                      Tracing route to microsoft.com [207.46.232.182]
                      over a maximum of 30 hops:
                      0 Roger-PC [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
                      1 static-ww-xx-yy-zz.dsl1.kgm.az.frontiernet.net [zz.yy.xx.ww]
                      2 74-47-96-1.dr02.kgmn.az.frontiernet.net [74.47.96.1]
                      3 ge--1-0-0---0.car01.kgmn.az.frontiernet.net [74.42.150.5]
                      4 xe--0-1-0---0.cor02.slkc.ut.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.29]
                      5 ae0---0.cor01.slkc.ut.frontiernet.net [74.40.4.13]
                      6 ae1---0.cor02.plal.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.5.61]
                      7 ae1---0.cbr01.plal.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.3.170]
                      8 eli-pni-peering-msn-net.plal.eli.net [208.186.87.10]
                      9 209.240.198.227
                      10 xe-7-0-1-0.by2-96c-1a.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.40.62]
                      11 207.46.40.135
                      12 ten1-1.tuk-76c-1b.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.46.21]
                      13 po16.tuk-65ns-mcs-1b.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.35.142]
                      14 * * *
                      Computing statistics for 325 seconds...
                      Source to Here This Node/Link
                      Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
                      0 Roger-PC [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
                      0/ 100 = 0% |
                      1 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% static-ww-xx-yy-zz.dsl1.kgm.az.frontiernet.net [zz.yy.xx.ww]
                      0/ 100 = 0% |
                      2 139ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 74-47-96-1.dr02.kgmn.az.frontiernet.net [74.47.96.1]
                      0/ 100 = 0% |
                      3 15ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ge--1-0-0---0.car01.kgmn.az.frontiernet.net [74.42.150.5]
                      0/ 100 = 0% |
                      4 27ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% xe--0-1-0---0.cor02.slkc.ut.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.29]
                      0/ 100 = 0% |
                      5 29ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae0---0.cor01.slkc.ut.frontiernet.net [74.40.4.13]
                      0/ 100 = 0% |
                      6 52ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae1---0.cor02.plal.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.5.61]
                      0/ 100 = 0% |
                      7 46ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae1---0.cbr01.plal.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.3.170]
                      0/ 100 = 0% |
                      8 60ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% eli-pni-peering-msn-net.plal.eli.net [208.186.87.10]
                      0/ 100 = 0% |
                      9 44ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 209.240.198.227
                      100/ 100 =100% |
                      10 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% xe-7-0-1-0.by2-96c-1a.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.40.62]

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                      • D DaveAuld

                        I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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                        Jun Du
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                        Me too. I goot all 4 request timed out from Microsoft.

                        Best, Jun

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                        • A Albert Holguin

                          There's nothing to say that they're obligated to respond... that's what I mean, they probably chose not to as a company-wide policy. Look at how Windows determines internet connectivity (it does not involve pings): http://blog.superuser.com/2011/05/16/windows-7-network-awareness/[^]

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                          Lost User
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                          5 for the link:thumbsup:

                          Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                          • D DaveAuld

                            I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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                            Mladen Jankovic
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                            DaveAuld wrote:

                            Ping microsoft.com
                            1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32)

                            The only unusual thing is that you actually got a replay from Microsoft's server since they filter ICMP reqests.

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                            • D DaveAuld

                              I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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                              Lost User
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                              Hmm - spooky. I pinged Microsoft - all ok (205ms) I pinged Apple - no response I pinged Google - all ok (22ms) so, it could be saif of Google & Microsoft - "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" How appropriate :)

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