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It can't just be me? (Ping with microsoft domains)

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  • D DaveAuld

    No I haven't forgotten, but I am sure the hardware used for handling the domains traffic should be more advanced than just simply blocking all pings.

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    Andrew Rissing
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    Yeah, but sometimes the simplest solution is best.

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    • D DaveAuld

      No I haven't forgotten, but I am sure the hardware used for handling the domains traffic should be more advanced than just simply blocking all pings.

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      Albert Holguin
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      There's nothing to say that they're obligated to respond... that's what I mean, they probably chose not to as a company-wide policy. Look at how Windows determines internet connectivity (it does not involve pings): http://blog.superuser.com/2011/05/16/windows-7-network-awareness/[^]

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      • A Andrew Rissing

        Yeah, but sometimes the simplest solution is best.

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        Albert Holguin
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        Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS)? ...why not... :)

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        • D DaveAuld

          I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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          Henry Minute
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          Purely conjecture, but some sort of anti DDOS measure. First ping from an address gets through, repeats within a certain time span fail?

          Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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          • A Albert Holguin

            There's nothing to say that they're obligated to respond... that's what I mean, they probably chose not to as a company-wide policy. Look at how Windows determines internet connectivity (it does not involve pings): http://blog.superuser.com/2011/05/16/windows-7-network-awareness/[^]

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            DaveAuld
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            Handy info in the link......may just have a use for that (and that use is how I came across the OP thing) :)

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            • D DaveAuld

              I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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              Roger Wright
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              After a bit of research:

              Tracing route to microsoft.com [207.46.232.182]
              over a maximum of 30 hops:
              0 Roger-PC [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
              1 static-ww-xx-yy-zz.dsl1.kgm.az.frontiernet.net [zz.yy.xx.ww]
              2 74-47-96-1.dr02.kgmn.az.frontiernet.net [74.47.96.1]
              3 ge--1-0-0---0.car01.kgmn.az.frontiernet.net [74.42.150.5]
              4 xe--0-1-0---0.cor02.slkc.ut.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.29]
              5 ae0---0.cor01.slkc.ut.frontiernet.net [74.40.4.13]
              6 ae1---0.cor02.plal.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.5.61]
              7 ae1---0.cbr01.plal.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.3.170]
              8 eli-pni-peering-msn-net.plal.eli.net [208.186.87.10]
              9 209.240.198.227
              10 xe-7-0-1-0.by2-96c-1a.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.40.62]
              11 207.46.40.135
              12 ten1-1.tuk-76c-1b.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.46.21]
              13 po16.tuk-65ns-mcs-1b.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.35.142]
              14 * * *
              Computing statistics for 325 seconds...
              Source to Here This Node/Link
              Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
              0 Roger-PC [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
              0/ 100 = 0% |
              1 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% static-ww-xx-yy-zz.dsl1.kgm.az.frontiernet.net [zz.yy.xx.ww]
              0/ 100 = 0% |
              2 139ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 74-47-96-1.dr02.kgmn.az.frontiernet.net [74.47.96.1]
              0/ 100 = 0% |
              3 15ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ge--1-0-0---0.car01.kgmn.az.frontiernet.net [74.42.150.5]
              0/ 100 = 0% |
              4 27ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% xe--0-1-0---0.cor02.slkc.ut.frontiernet.net [74.40.1.29]
              0/ 100 = 0% |
              5 29ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae0---0.cor01.slkc.ut.frontiernet.net [74.40.4.13]
              0/ 100 = 0% |
              6 52ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae1---0.cor02.plal.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.5.61]
              0/ 100 = 0% |
              7 46ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae1---0.cbr01.plal.ca.frontiernet.net [74.40.3.170]
              0/ 100 = 0% |
              8 60ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% eli-pni-peering-msn-net.plal.eli.net [208.186.87.10]
              0/ 100 = 0% |
              9 44ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 209.240.198.227
              100/ 100 =100% |
              10 --- 100/ 100 =100% 0/ 100 = 0% xe-7-0-1-0.by2-96c-1a.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.40.62]

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              • D DaveAuld

                I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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                Jun Du
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                Me too. I goot all 4 request timed out from Microsoft.

                Best, Jun

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                • A Albert Holguin

                  There's nothing to say that they're obligated to respond... that's what I mean, they probably chose not to as a company-wide policy. Look at how Windows determines internet connectivity (it does not involve pings): http://blog.superuser.com/2011/05/16/windows-7-network-awareness/[^]

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                  Lost User
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                  5 for the link:thumbsup:

                  Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                  • D DaveAuld

                    I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

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                    Mladen Jankovic
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                    DaveAuld wrote:

                    Ping microsoft.com
                    1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32)

                    The only unusual thing is that you actually got a replay from Microsoft's server since they filter ICMP reqests.

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                    • D DaveAuld

                      I have tried 1 computer and 1 laptop. (windows 7, 64bit and 32 bit) Open a command prompt; Ping microsoft.com 1 reply ok, next 3 time out (207.46.197.32) Ping google.com 4 reply ok (209.85.147.147) Is this behaviour the same for everyone else and MS has some sort of additional functionality on their domains as it also happens with msn.com, microsoft.co.uk, msn.co.uk?

                      Dave Find Me On: Web|Facebook|Twitter|LinkedIn


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                      Lost User
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                      Hmm - spooky. I pinged Microsoft - all ok (205ms) I pinged Apple - no response I pinged Google - all ok (22ms) so, it could be saif of Google & Microsoft - "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" How appropriate :)

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