Abortion
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The real answer for abortion is being morally responsible about sex in the first place. People (men and women) need to understand that the choice is made at the time of intercourse that you will be responsible for the potential outcome: life. (Even if you're using contraception, a pregnancy is still possible. Contraception is not 100% foolproof.) Don't have sex until you're ready and able to be responsible for the possible outcome. Hence, no need for abortion to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape. Don't have sex with your children (just another form of rape). Hence, no need for abortion because of incest. Don't have sex with someone you're not supposed to. Hence, no need for abortion because of adultery or licentious behavior. That leaves only abortion for the life & health of the mother. A relatively rare instance. In many cases, the mother would rather give her life (my wife included). Do I believe this is possible, yes. Do I believe it probable, no. Still that's the only real, viable solution. Wanton killing of babies because you are irresponsible and life is inconvenient is not a moral choice, is not a moral stance.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
The real answer for abortion is being morally responsible about sex in the first place. People (men and women) need to understand that the choice is made at the time of intercourse that you will be responsible for the potential outcome: life. (Even if you're using contraception, a pregnancy is still possible. Contraception is not 100% foolproof.) Don't have sex until you're ready and able to be responsible for the possible outcome. Hence, no need for abortion to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape. Don't have sex with your children (just another form of rape). Hence, no need for abortion because of incest. Don't have sex with someone you're not supposed to. Hence, no need for abortion because of adultery or licentious behavior. That leaves only abortion for the life & health of the mother. A relatively rare instance. In many cases, the mother would rather give her life (my wife included). Do I believe this is possible, yes. Do I believe it probable, no. Still that's the only real, viable solution. Wanton killing of babies because you are irresponsible and life is inconvenient is not a moral choice, is not a moral stance.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunWow. Thank you. It is not often someone with moral sense posts comments in here. I read some of the stuff in here for a few days and then get tired of hearing such nonsense and negativity and stop reading for a while. What a breath of fresh air to hear someone with such common sense that has been lost amongst most of society.
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Wow. Thank you. It is not often someone with moral sense posts comments in here. I read some of the stuff in here for a few days and then get tired of hearing such nonsense and negativity and stop reading for a while. What a breath of fresh air to hear someone with such common sense that has been lost amongst most of society.
Several downvotes, even one spam/abusive vote, but nobody with the gumption to reply.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
The real answer for abortion is being morally responsible about sex in the first place. People (men and women) need to understand that the choice is made at the time of intercourse that you will be responsible for the potential outcome: life. (Even if you're using contraception, a pregnancy is still possible. Contraception is not 100% foolproof.) Don't have sex until you're ready and able to be responsible for the possible outcome. Hence, no need for abortion to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape. Don't have sex with your children (just another form of rape). Hence, no need for abortion because of incest. Don't have sex with someone you're not supposed to. Hence, no need for abortion because of adultery or licentious behavior. That leaves only abortion for the life & health of the mother. A relatively rare instance. In many cases, the mother would rather give her life (my wife included). Do I believe this is possible, yes. Do I believe it probable, no. Still that's the only real, viable solution. Wanton killing of babies because you are irresponsible and life is inconvenient is not a moral choice, is not a moral stance.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braunahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't have sex until you're ready and able to be responsible for the possible outcome. Hence, no need for abortion to prevent an unwanted pregnancy.
Super, however the 200,000 years of human evolution has yet to discover how to stop teenagers fucking.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape.
Agreed, but again, historically it has been used as a weapon of war. (qv Bosnia, Middle East, Barbaross etc)
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't have sex with your children (just another form of rape). Hence, no need for abortion because of incest.
Don't have sex with anyone's children, but then define children? In Britain the age of consent is 16, in the US 18, in The Netherlands as young as 12 - should there be a world agreement on what constitutes a child?
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't have sex with someone you're not supposed to. Hence, no need for abortion because of adultery or licentious behavior.
Please define "someone you're not supposed to". Please define "licentious behavior" And what of Adultery, whose concern is it but those who are involved?
ahmed zahmed wrote:
That leaves only abortion for the life & health of the mother. A relatively rare instance. In many cases, the mother would rather give her life (my wife included)
Actually, evolution has taken care of that little problem. This is rather cold, but is evolutionarily sound. It is evolutionarily better that the child dies and the mother gets on and breeds another than the mother dies possibly leaving other child without a mother. That is hardwired into every creature further evolved than an amoeba.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Wanton killing of babies because you are irresponsible and life is inconvenient is not a moral choice, is not a moral stance.
That is a rather crude phrase, and it is not acurate. Babies cannot be killed, that would be murder. Foetuses can be terminated, but given that they are tiny parasites living inside the mother and could not exist outside and have no brain nor experiences it cannot be classified as murder. Inflammatory descriptions do not aid your cause. I also noted that
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Wow. Thank you. It is not often someone with moral sense posts comments in here. I read some of the stuff in here for a few days and then get tired of hearing such nonsense and negativity and stop reading for a while. What a breath of fresh air to hear someone with such common sense that has been lost amongst most of society.
You're being sarcastic right?
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't have sex until you're ready and able to be responsible for the possible outcome. Hence, no need for abortion to prevent an unwanted pregnancy.
Super, however the 200,000 years of human evolution has yet to discover how to stop teenagers fucking.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape.
Agreed, but again, historically it has been used as a weapon of war. (qv Bosnia, Middle East, Barbaross etc)
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't have sex with your children (just another form of rape). Hence, no need for abortion because of incest.
Don't have sex with anyone's children, but then define children? In Britain the age of consent is 16, in the US 18, in The Netherlands as young as 12 - should there be a world agreement on what constitutes a child?
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't have sex with someone you're not supposed to. Hence, no need for abortion because of adultery or licentious behavior.
Please define "someone you're not supposed to". Please define "licentious behavior" And what of Adultery, whose concern is it but those who are involved?
ahmed zahmed wrote:
That leaves only abortion for the life & health of the mother. A relatively rare instance. In many cases, the mother would rather give her life (my wife included)
Actually, evolution has taken care of that little problem. This is rather cold, but is evolutionarily sound. It is evolutionarily better that the child dies and the mother gets on and breeds another than the mother dies possibly leaving other child without a mother. That is hardwired into every creature further evolved than an amoeba.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Wanton killing of babies because you are irresponsible and life is inconvenient is not a moral choice, is not a moral stance.
That is a rather crude phrase, and it is not acurate. Babies cannot be killed, that would be murder. Foetuses can be terminated, but given that they are tiny parasites living inside the mother and could not exist outside and have no brain nor experiences it cannot be classified as murder. Inflammatory descriptions do not aid your cause. I also noted that
Dalek Dave wrote:
Super, however the 200,000 years of human evolution has yet to discover how to stop teenagers f***ing.
Doesn't negate the idea that people (including teenagers) shouldn't be irresponsible. Either make the choice beforehand, or make the choice afterwards. But be responsible for your actions: life should be preserved.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Agreed, but again, historically it has been used as a weapon of war.
(qv Bosnia, Middle East, Barbaross etc)True, but then war is not moral either. Stop warring.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Don't have sex with anyone's children, but then define children?
Agreed, but I was talking incest here. Way to twist my words. Children: your progeny, or your adopted progeny, your direct descendant. Or your spouses projeny, adopted or by blood.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Please define "someone you're not supposed to".
Someone with whom you're not willing or ready to be responsible for and with the possible outcome: a baby. Someone who is your direct descendant, etc.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Please define "licentious behavior"
Uncontrolled, irresponsible sexual behavior.
Dalek Dave wrote:
And what of Adultery, whose concern is it but those who are involved?
Unwanted pregnancies are everyone's concern. Taking unlawful and unethical and irresponsible sexual actions with another's spouse is certainly of concern with those the violated union. Since that union is given special privileges and sanction by society it is of society's concern too.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Actually, evolution has taken care of that little problem
Maybe, but we are more than mere animals. Still, I'm with you. I'd rather my wife save her life, but I understand and respect her choice.
Dalek Dave wrote:
That is a rather crude phrase, and it is not acurate.
Babies cannot be killed, that would be murder.Depends on what you define as a baby.
Dalek Dave wrote:
severely disable child
You're right. I didn't think of that. I don't really know, but I think that should be left up to the parents involved. I'm not sure what
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Super, however the 200,000 years of human evolution has yet to discover how to stop teenagers f***ing.
Doesn't negate the idea that people (including teenagers) shouldn't be irresponsible. Either make the choice beforehand, or make the choice afterwards. But be responsible for your actions: life should be preserved.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Agreed, but again, historically it has been used as a weapon of war.
(qv Bosnia, Middle East, Barbaross etc)True, but then war is not moral either. Stop warring.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Don't have sex with anyone's children, but then define children?
Agreed, but I was talking incest here. Way to twist my words. Children: your progeny, or your adopted progeny, your direct descendant. Or your spouses projeny, adopted or by blood.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Please define "someone you're not supposed to".
Someone with whom you're not willing or ready to be responsible for and with the possible outcome: a baby. Someone who is your direct descendant, etc.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Please define "licentious behavior"
Uncontrolled, irresponsible sexual behavior.
Dalek Dave wrote:
And what of Adultery, whose concern is it but those who are involved?
Unwanted pregnancies are everyone's concern. Taking unlawful and unethical and irresponsible sexual actions with another's spouse is certainly of concern with those the violated union. Since that union is given special privileges and sanction by society it is of society's concern too.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Actually, evolution has taken care of that little problem
Maybe, but we are more than mere animals. Still, I'm with you. I'd rather my wife save her life, but I understand and respect her choice.
Dalek Dave wrote:
That is a rather crude phrase, and it is not acurate.
Babies cannot be killed, that would be murder.Depends on what you define as a baby.
Dalek Dave wrote:
severely disable child
You're right. I didn't think of that. I don't really know, but I think that should be left up to the parents involved. I'm not sure what
With a broad brush I can agree with many of your points. But I still feel that you (and by 'you' I mean any of us) have no right to interfere in someone elses lives and relationships. Your definition of licentious behaviour may be very different from mine, so why should I change my life for your benefit? I must take you to task with your differentiation of us and animals. We are animals, we are hard wired to do certain things because of our evolutionary imperitives, we behave certain ways as a matter of survival, we are merely 'sophisticated and rather intelligent' animals, but animals none the less. Posit - Would you let one child die to save the other three? Difficult question and one that is impossible to answer until you have to make the decision. And that is the nub of my point. You are saying that certain behaviours are wrong, IN YOUR VIEW, and I respect your view, I just do not agree with it. As for the botom line...
ahmed zahmed wrote:
I don't really know, but I think that should be left up to the parents involved.
I agree, but I think all decisions are best left with those concerned. BTW, If you ever square the circle on this matter, run for President! :)
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With a broad brush I can agree with many of your points. But I still feel that you (and by 'you' I mean any of us) have no right to interfere in someone elses lives and relationships. Your definition of licentious behaviour may be very different from mine, so why should I change my life for your benefit? I must take you to task with your differentiation of us and animals. We are animals, we are hard wired to do certain things because of our evolutionary imperitives, we behave certain ways as a matter of survival, we are merely 'sophisticated and rather intelligent' animals, but animals none the less. Posit - Would you let one child die to save the other three? Difficult question and one that is impossible to answer until you have to make the decision. And that is the nub of my point. You are saying that certain behaviours are wrong, IN YOUR VIEW, and I respect your view, I just do not agree with it. As for the botom line...
ahmed zahmed wrote:
I don't really know, but I think that should be left up to the parents involved.
I agree, but I think all decisions are best left with those concerned. BTW, If you ever square the circle on this matter, run for President! :)
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
Dalek Dave wrote:
interfere in someone elses lives and relationships
No, I don't unless their behavior negatively impinges on my or other's lives.
Dalek Dave wrote:
definition of licentious behaviour
It's true we'd all have to come to an understanding of terms, but I think there's at least a minimum overlap there. My main point is to be responsible for your actions, be moral. I do think I have a right to tell others how to act when those actions negatively affect me.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Posit - Would you let one child die to save the other three?
Maybe, depends on the situation.
Dalek Dave wrote:
run for President
Not on your life! The only person that should be President is the one who doesn't want it.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
The real answer for abortion is being morally responsible about sex in the first place. People (men and women) need to understand that the choice is made at the time of intercourse that you will be responsible for the potential outcome: life. (Even if you're using contraception, a pregnancy is still possible. Contraception is not 100% foolproof.) Don't have sex until you're ready and able to be responsible for the possible outcome. Hence, no need for abortion to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape. Don't have sex with your children (just another form of rape). Hence, no need for abortion because of incest. Don't have sex with someone you're not supposed to. Hence, no need for abortion because of adultery or licentious behavior. That leaves only abortion for the life & health of the mother. A relatively rare instance. In many cases, the mother would rather give her life (my wife included). Do I believe this is possible, yes. Do I believe it probable, no. Still that's the only real, viable solution. Wanton killing of babies because you are irresponsible and life is inconvenient is not a moral choice, is not a moral stance.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunAh, morality. Too bad more people are not moral, and you cannot make them moral. There are laws here in the states to keep people from doing a lot of what you say. They do not work. Just my two cents.
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The real answer for abortion is being morally responsible about sex in the first place. People (men and women) need to understand that the choice is made at the time of intercourse that you will be responsible for the potential outcome: life. (Even if you're using contraception, a pregnancy is still possible. Contraception is not 100% foolproof.) Don't have sex until you're ready and able to be responsible for the possible outcome. Hence, no need for abortion to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape. Don't have sex with your children (just another form of rape). Hence, no need for abortion because of incest. Don't have sex with someone you're not supposed to. Hence, no need for abortion because of adultery or licentious behavior. That leaves only abortion for the life & health of the mother. A relatively rare instance. In many cases, the mother would rather give her life (my wife included). Do I believe this is possible, yes. Do I believe it probable, no. Still that's the only real, viable solution. Wanton killing of babies because you are irresponsible and life is inconvenient is not a moral choice, is not a moral stance.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunI've downvoted you firstly on the basis of being earnest but very naive. Whilst I would love to agree with what you say, experience tells me that we'd make a very loneley twosome. It's human nature to want to procreate and there are no hard wired rules about how that should happen. There is the man-mad morality we try to shove on top of it (crudely put, I know) but you can't stop horny teenagers (or anyoen, for that matter) from fucking each others tiny brains out. Further, just because you have a certain set of morals, they may not jibe with what I consider to be moral which leaves you setting yourself up as judge and jury about what everyone else can or should do. (I see the paradox inherent in that sentence but I think you get my meaning). Finally, I would agree with DD: abortion does not kill babies: that was inflammatory and the other reason I downvoted you.
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You're being sarcastic right?
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Several downvotes, even one spam/abusive vote, but nobody with the gumption to reply.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunNot a popular opinion in this forum. The funny thing is a lot people in this forum think their opinion is the popular one because this is the only forum they are on, or ones similar like it. I am just glad to see someone stand up for what is right even when it is not popular. Thank you.
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I've downvoted you firstly on the basis of being earnest but very naive. Whilst I would love to agree with what you say, experience tells me that we'd make a very loneley twosome. It's human nature to want to procreate and there are no hard wired rules about how that should happen. There is the man-mad morality we try to shove on top of it (crudely put, I know) but you can't stop horny teenagers (or anyoen, for that matter) from fucking each others tiny brains out. Further, just because you have a certain set of morals, they may not jibe with what I consider to be moral which leaves you setting yourself up as judge and jury about what everyone else can or should do. (I see the paradox inherent in that sentence but I think you get my meaning). Finally, I would agree with DD: abortion does not kill babies: that was inflammatory and the other reason I downvoted you.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Thanks for the reply. Still, I see you don't seem to disagree with the main point of my post: be responsible, take responsibility for your actions. If you're not willing to take responsibility, then don't do the action for the outcome you would need to be responsible. Just because we can't agree on what is moral doesn't mean there aren't universal moral laws. A lot of what abortion is caused by is selfish, irresponsible behavior. Stop being selfish. Stop being irresponsible.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
Thanks for the reply. Still, I see you don't seem to disagree with the main point of my post: be responsible, take responsibility for your actions. If you're not willing to take responsibility, then don't do the action for the outcome you would need to be responsible. Just because we can't agree on what is moral doesn't mean there aren't universal moral laws. A lot of what abortion is caused by is selfish, irresponsible behavior. Stop being selfish. Stop being irresponsible.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunAs I said, the sentiments are sound, it's the implementation that is impractical. Even the most moral of people (by whose measure?) have sex and not always responsibly. You just can't legislate for human behavior.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Not a popular opinion in this forum. The funny thing is a lot people in this forum think their opinion is the popular one because this is the only forum they are on, or ones similar like it. I am just glad to see someone stand up for what is right even when it is not popular. Thank you.
I knew it wouldn't be. But I knew also I had to speak my mind. It's time for the silent majority to stop being silent. Silence is the voice of complicity. It's time, past time to stand up for what is right. It's time to act on what is right. It's time to do what is right.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
Dalek Dave wrote:
interfere in someone elses lives and relationships
No, I don't unless their behavior negatively impinges on my or other's lives.
Dalek Dave wrote:
definition of licentious behaviour
It's true we'd all have to come to an understanding of terms, but I think there's at least a minimum overlap there. My main point is to be responsible for your actions, be moral. I do think I have a right to tell others how to act when those actions negatively affect me.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Posit - Would you let one child die to save the other three?
Maybe, depends on the situation.
Dalek Dave wrote:
run for President
Not on your life! The only person that should be President is the one who doesn't want it.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braunahmed zahmed wrote:
The only person that should be President is the one who doesn't want it.
I don't want it. Gimme, gimme, gimme... :)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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As I said, the sentiments are sound, it's the implementation that is impractical. Even the most moral of people (by whose measure?) have sex and not always responsibly. You just can't legislate for human behavior.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
impractical
I disagree. It's the most practical of all. Difficult to convince and perform? Yes. Possible? Yes. Probable? No. Certainly not by all.
mark merrens wrote:
You just can't legislate for human behavior.
I get your point, even if it's not entirely true. (Otherwise, why laws against rape, murder, robbery, etc? Are those not human behaviors?) I may not be able to legislate, but speaking out and teaching is possible. Of course, people have to be willing to listen.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
The real answer for abortion is being morally responsible about sex in the first place. People (men and women) need to understand that the choice is made at the time of intercourse that you will be responsible for the potential outcome: life. (Even if you're using contraception, a pregnancy is still possible. Contraception is not 100% foolproof.) Don't have sex until you're ready and able to be responsible for the possible outcome. Hence, no need for abortion to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape. Don't have sex with your children (just another form of rape). Hence, no need for abortion because of incest. Don't have sex with someone you're not supposed to. Hence, no need for abortion because of adultery or licentious behavior. That leaves only abortion for the life & health of the mother. A relatively rare instance. In many cases, the mother would rather give her life (my wife included). Do I believe this is possible, yes. Do I believe it probable, no. Still that's the only real, viable solution. Wanton killing of babies because you are irresponsible and life is inconvenient is not a moral choice, is not a moral stance.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunOK, so I have read some of your responces to peoples replies and I have a simple thing for you to understand.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape.
Rapists do not have the abortion, the women impregnated with their rapists child does. They can not control being raped. Same goes with children. The child did not make the choice, so yes abortion is still needed here. I won't bother with the others because your responce to this tells me your 'real' name, and then you can be slayed.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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OK, so I have read some of your responces to peoples replies and I have a simple thing for you to understand.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape.
Rapists do not have the abortion, the women impregnated with their rapists child does. They can not control being raped. Same goes with children. The child did not make the choice, so yes abortion is still needed here. I won't bother with the others because your responce to this tells me your 'real' name, and then you can be slayed.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Give me a break. If men stop raping women and children, then unwanted pregnancy from the raping would stop. And so would lives being destroyed by rape stop. Do I think my saying "Stop Raping!" will make it all stop??? Of course not! But that is the real answer to abortion needed for pregnancy due to rape: stop raping!
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
OK, so I have read some of your responces to peoples replies and I have a simple thing for you to understand.
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Don't rape women (indeed, don't rape anyone). Hence, no need for abortion because of rape.
Rapists do not have the abortion, the women impregnated with their rapists child does. They can not control being raped. Same goes with children. The child did not make the choice, so yes abortion is still needed here. I won't bother with the others because your responce to this tells me your 'real' name, and then you can be slayed.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
You can not control that one may commit a crime. This is a fact. Inevitably a crime is committed but a society has no write to force a victim of a crime to make such a desicion. You imply that society has this right upon victims or anyone for that matter.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.