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  • L leppie

    Nicholas Butler wrote:

    List<User> users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

    Sadly, I like it! :thumbsup:

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    Nicholas Butler
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    leppie wrote:

    Sadly, I like it! :thumbsup:

    Thanks leppie. The more I use it, the more I like it too :) Just can't find a good name for it... Nick

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      I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

      List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

      It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

      List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

      Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

      www.NickButler.net

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      peterchen
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      It's known as PNAMUT - Pretentious Name for Muddling Through. Sorry :-O The purpose of the data layer method (as you call it) is to protect the application against changes; e.g. a new privacy regulation mandates you may not track age, only states such as "above minimum drinking age". (before anyone barks back please consider that I nowhere endorsed or condemned either method)

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      • N Nicholas Butler

        I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

        List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

        It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

        List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

        Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

        www.NickButler.net

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        Pete OHanlon
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        The closest version of this that I could see without contemplating my navel would be an Identity Map. It's not a 100% fit, but it does fit some of your intent.

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        • N Nicholas Butler

          I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

          List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

          It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

          List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

          Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

          www.NickButler.net

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          I like to call it poor programming. But I am outnumbered in the MS world.

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          • N Nicholas Butler

            I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

            List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

            It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

            List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

            Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

            www.NickButler.net

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            Henry Minute
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            Suggestion: Predicated Queries/Query

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            • N Nicholas Butler

              I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

              List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

              It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

              List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

              Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

              www.NickButler.net

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              Pete OHanlon
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              As an alternative, it also looks a bit like a Query Object - mapping onto a Repository pattern.

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              • N Nicholas Butler

                I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                www.NickButler.net

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                BobJanova
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                I'm thinking condition-based programming. I'm not sure if I just made that up right now though. Also, isn't that exactly the type of thing you can already do with a Linq query? It is elegant, just like Linq, and it's a good thing to do as long as you can implement it in such a way that the condition is only executed as little as possible, and you don't have to load the whole potential result set into memory and then filter it. It's more functional programming than declarative, I think. In languages where functions are first class objects (e.g. Javascript) it is more common to pass filter functions or other types of function (for example a sort order comparator) around and potentially declare them locally as you have done here. What you're passing in the 'where' parameter is a pure function.

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                • P peterchen

                  It's known as PNAMUT - Pretentious Name for Muddling Through. Sorry :-O The purpose of the data layer method (as you call it) is to protect the application against changes; e.g. a new privacy regulation mandates you may not track age, only states such as "above minimum drinking age". (before anyone barks back please consider that I nowhere endorsed or condemned either method)

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                  Nicholas Butler
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                  peterchen wrote:

                  It's known as PNAMUT - Pretentious Name for Muddling Through.

                  Correct, but not very catchy :)

                  peterchen wrote:

                  The purpose of the data layer method (as you call it) is to protect the application against changes; e.g. a new privacy regulation mandates you may not track age, only states such as "above minimum drinking age".

                  That was a contrived example but I agree: it's certainly not High Church. Nick

                  www.NickButler.net

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    The closest version of this that I could see without contemplating my navel would be an Identity Map. It's not a 100% fit, but it does fit some of your intent.

                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                    Nicholas Butler
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                    Interesting. I have also implemented this in my framework, but I just called it caching. Nick

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                    • H Henry Minute

                      Suggestion: Predicated Queries/Query

                      Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                      Nicholas Butler
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                      Henry Minute wrote:

                      Predicated Queries/Query

                      I like it - thanks Henry :) Nick

                      www.NickButler.net

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                      • N Nicholas Butler

                        Interesting. I have also implemented this in my framework, but I just called it caching. Nick

                        www.NickButler.net

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        Nicholas Butler wrote:

                        I just called it caching

                        Most people do. First law of patterns. They are a fancy name for stuff you already do.

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                          I'm thinking condition-based programming. I'm not sure if I just made that up right now though. Also, isn't that exactly the type of thing you can already do with a Linq query? It is elegant, just like Linq, and it's a good thing to do as long as you can implement it in such a way that the condition is only executed as little as possible, and you don't have to load the whole potential result set into memory and then filter it. It's more functional programming than declarative, I think. In languages where functions are first class objects (e.g. Javascript) it is more common to pass filter functions or other types of function (for example a sort order comparator) around and potentially declare them locally as you have done here. What you're passing in the 'where' parameter is a pure function.

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                          Nicholas Butler
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                          BobJanova wrote:

                          Also, isn't that exactly the type of thing you can already do with a Linq query?

                          Yes, it's certainly like Linq :-D The difference is that it may or may not cause a Linq-to-Entities query to run and hit the database server.

                          BobJanova wrote:

                          It's more functional programming than declarative, I think.

                          Yes, I suppose it is. I was focused on making it easy to use rather than the programming paradigm. Thanks, Nick

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                          • N Nicholas Butler

                            I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                            List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                            It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                            List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                            Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                            www.NickButler.net

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            I don't know if it's known or not. You could call it "Query Mapper"

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                            • P Pete OHanlon

                              Nicholas Butler wrote:

                              I just called it caching

                              Most people do. First law of patterns. They are a fancy name for stuff you already do.

                              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                              Nicholas Butler
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                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              First law of patterns. They are a fancy name for stuff you already do.

                              Along with the first law of programming ( "it's already been done" ), I was hoping someone had already come up with the fancy name. Nick

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                              • N Nicholas Butler

                                I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                                List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                                It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                                List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                                Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                                www.NickButler.net

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                                R Giskard Reventlov
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                                YAPNBUDP - Yet another pretentiously named but unnecessary design pattern :)

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                                • P Pete OHanlon

                                  As an alternative, it also looks a bit like a Query Object - mapping onto a Repository pattern.

                                  *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                  "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                                  There you have it: QORP!

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                                  • N Nicholas Butler

                                    peterchen wrote:

                                    It's known as PNAMUT - Pretentious Name for Muddling Through.

                                    Correct, but not very catchy :)

                                    peterchen wrote:

                                    The purpose of the data layer method (as you call it) is to protect the application against changes; e.g. a new privacy regulation mandates you may not track age, only states such as "above minimum drinking age".

                                    That was a contrived example but I agree: it's certainly not High Church. Nick

                                    www.NickButler.net

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                                    When you pronounce it quickly, you can make it sound almost like "PEANUT".

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                                    • N Nicholas Butler

                                      I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                                      List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                                      It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                                      List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                                      Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                                      www.NickButler.net

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                                      Baxter R Pearson
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                                      I use this stuff all the time, and love it !! Linq, Lamdas, Linq with Lamdas.. It saves a lot of time with EF.

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                                      • N Nicholas Butler

                                        I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                                        List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                                        It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                                        List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                                        Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                                        www.NickButler.net

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                                        'Specification Pattern' with only one logical chain.

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                                        • N Nicholas Butler

                                          I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                                          List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                                          It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                                          List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                                          Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                                          www.NickButler.net

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                                          Nathan Gloyn
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                                          Isn't it just a simple Facade pattern?

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