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  • P Pete OHanlon

    As an alternative, it also looks a bit like a Query Object - mapping onto a Repository pattern.

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    Vivi Chellappa
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    There you have it: QORP!

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    • N Nicholas Butler

      peterchen wrote:

      It's known as PNAMUT - Pretentious Name for Muddling Through.

      Correct, but not very catchy :)

      peterchen wrote:

      The purpose of the data layer method (as you call it) is to protect the application against changes; e.g. a new privacy regulation mandates you may not track age, only states such as "above minimum drinking age".

      That was a contrived example but I agree: it's certainly not High Church. Nick

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      peterchen
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      When you pronounce it quickly, you can make it sound almost like "PEANUT".

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      • N Nicholas Butler

        I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

        List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

        It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

        List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

        Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

        www.NickButler.net

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        Baxter R Pearson
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        I use this stuff all the time, and love it !! Linq, Lamdas, Linq with Lamdas.. It saves a lot of time with EF.

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        • N Nicholas Butler

          I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

          List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

          It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

          List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

          Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

          www.NickButler.net

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          User 3882831
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          'Specification Pattern' with only one logical chain.

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          • N Nicholas Butler

            I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

            List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

            It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

            List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

            Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

            www.NickButler.net

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            Nathan Gloyn
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            Isn't it just a simple Facade pattern?

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            • N Nicholas Butler

              I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

              List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

              It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

              List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

              Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

              www.NickButler.net

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              jim lahey
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              My favourite patterns in order are: Paisley, spirals and tiger stripes.

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              • N Nicholas Butler

                I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                www.NickButler.net

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                Brandon Ledbetter
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                I have been working with a pattern called "composite specification" that uses lambda expressions in this way. We are looking at combining it's use with NHibernate, which can turn the composed lambdas into SQL. Seems like a pretty powerful, flexible approach to me.

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                • N Nicholas Butler

                  I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                  List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                  It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                  List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                  Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                  www.NickButler.net

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                  Fabio Franco
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                  How about LOOP? LINQ-Object Oriented Programming

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                  • N Nicholas Butler

                    I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                    List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                    It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                    List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                    Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                    www.NickButler.net

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                    Alessandro Degola
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                    when you use lambda expression and delegates, these are a variant of the observer pattern.

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                    • N Nicholas Butler

                      I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                      List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                      It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                      List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                      Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                      www.NickButler.net

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                      Lost User
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                      List users = DAL.User.FetchAllUsersOfLegalDrinkingAge(); Then define a static list with all countries and districts with said age. I hate parameters. Edit: (And yes it may be the facade pattern)

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                      • B Baxter R Pearson

                        I use this stuff all the time, and love it !! Linq, Lamdas, Linq with Lamdas.. It saves a lot of time with EF.

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                        Nicholas Butler
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                        Baxter R Pearson wrote:

                        It saves a lot of time with EF.

                        Exactly :) I've sent you a PM - could you let me know if it doesn't come through ( sometimes they go missing. ) Nick

                        www.NickButler.net

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                        • N Nathan Gloyn

                          Isn't it just a simple Facade pattern?

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                          Nicholas Butler
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                          Nathan Gloyn wrote:

                          Isn't it just a simple Facade pattern?

                          It does hide a lot of complexity, but I think the difference is that the parameters passed are functions not values. I don't know if that makes it a different pattern, though :) Nick

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                          • N Nicholas Butler

                            Nathan Gloyn wrote:

                            Isn't it just a simple Facade pattern?

                            It does hide a lot of complexity, but I think the difference is that the parameters passed are functions not values. I don't know if that makes it a different pattern, though :) Nick

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                            Nathan Gloyn
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                            From the all knowing Wikipedia: A facade is an object that provides a simplified interface to a larger body of code, such as a class library. A facade can: - make a software library easier to use, understand and test, since the facade has convenient methods for common tasks; - make the library more readable, for the same reason; Certainly sounds like its a facade based on that definition :)

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                            • N Nicholas Butler

                              I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                              List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                              It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                              List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                              Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                              www.NickButler.net

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                              Jonathan C Dickinson
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                              Technically it's a DSL (Domain Specific Language) implemented on top of a formal language. You can tell if it's a DSL if simply reading the words makes approximate sense in English: User fetch all where the user age is greater than 21. You could obviously improve it: Fetch all users where the user age is greater than 21.

                              var users = Fetch.All.Users( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                              The paradigm you are using is very close to a fluent interface - technically fluent interfaces need to happen with method calls (DAL.Users().Where().Age().GreaterThan(21)) but there isn't any reason you can't violate that - especially if it increases clarity (which yours does).

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                              • B Brandon Ledbetter

                                I have been working with a pattern called "composite specification" that uses lambda expressions in this way. We are looking at combining it's use with NHibernate, which can turn the composed lambdas into SQL. Seems like a pretty powerful, flexible approach to me.

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                                Nicholas Butler
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                                I've sent you a PM - could let me know if it goes missing? ( they sometimes do ) Nick

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                                • N Nicholas Butler

                                  I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                                  List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                                  It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                                  List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                                  Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                                  www.NickButler.net

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                                  K Quinn
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                                  Directed Expression Retrieval Pattern (DERP for short)

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                                  • N Nicholas Butler

                                    I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                                    List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                                    It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                                    List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                                    Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                                    www.NickButler.net

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                                    Leng Vang
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                                    Well, it is declarative. It using Linq and lambda. Call it "dLinda". :doh:

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                                    • H Henry Minute

                                      Suggestion: Predicated Queries/Query

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                                      You can design any method to use a predicate like that. It isn't rocket science - it's LINQ:

                                      IEnumerable Fetch(Func predicate){
                                      return repository.Where(predicate);
                                      }

                                      ...as long as you are using the repository that contains type `T`.

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                                      • N Nicholas Butler

                                        I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                                        List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                                        It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                                        List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                                        Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                                        www.NickButler.net

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                                        rdalton2100OrSomething
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                                        I think that you are talking about basic coding rules that unfortunately most people don't follow or teach or profess often enough, because they get caught up in making sure they separate everything out in to tiers or MVC or MVVP or whatever other bs is popular atm. 1) If you are going to re-use the logic then create a method to centralize the age check, so you don't have the same thing in 2 places. 2) If you are not going to re-use the logic then put it closest to where it will be used. I see people all the time create methods in the BL layer to encapsulate the call to the data layer, because someday another developer will browse through and say, hey...look, I already have a method that does that, and it will save them 5 seconds from having to write it themselves or search to see if it exists elsewhere. Put the logic closest to where it will be used unless you KNOW it is likely to be re-used. There are exceptions if you are working on really big applications, but most apps are small, and the added abstraction makes maintenance a beast. If you want to call it a pattern then please follow the one and only pattern that really matters: Keep It Simple. Abstraction by default is a sign of lack of experience. And those people with 20 years of programming experience on their resume that are itching to post how I got it all wrong (if you are harumphing right now, I mean you). You are idiots that make life difficult for the rest of us. Do us all a favor and go get a job mowing grass or something.

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                                        • N Nicholas Butler

                                          I'm having difficulty finding a name for a style of programming. You can make one up if you like, but I'd prefer something that is already documented :) I've written a layer over the Entity Framework that allows the application code to pass parameters into the data layer that shape the returned result sets. So you can write something like this:

                                          List users = DAL.User.FetchAll( where: user => user.Age > 21 );

                                          It's declarative programming, but I was looking for a more specific name. Something like "locality of intent". Basically, you say what you need in the place where you need it. It's the opposite of having a data layer method like this:

                                          List FetchAllUsersWhereAgeGreaterThan( int minimumAge )

                                          Is this a known pattern? I've run out of obvious words to Google. Ta, Nick

                                          www.NickButler.net

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                                          Harley L Pebley
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                                          Sort of falls along the lines of a "fluent interface."

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