Is It jus me?
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POH has been very positive about Metro. I can't understand why MS wanted to base their interface on a newspaper. :confused:
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Not sure I follow. You can have multiple apps running even on the metro style. You can even have a split screen granted just for 2 apps. But splitting your screen with like 4 apps only make sense on a 26"+ display. On a desktop I don't even want to hear about metro. X| But on a tablet is nice. ;)
All the best, Dan
MDL=>Moshu wrote:
You can have multiple apps running even on the metro style. You can even have a split screen granted just for 2 apps.
So, well, just 2 apps really. In 1/2 screen each. so if one is, say something like notepad with a couple of notes in, it has to take up 50% of the screen - the great advantage of a windows world is that you can size to suit.
MDL=>Moshu wrote:
But splitting your screen with like 4 apps only make sense on a 26"+ display.
well, my Mac has a 27" display and my PC twin 24" displays - so makes sense.
MDL=>Moshu wrote:
On a desktop I don't even want to hear about metro. X|
Quite - but the example you shows was a desktop not a tablet - it was specifically comparing desktop OSs - otherwise you need to compare metro and Ios or Android, and not OSX
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Is Windows 8 seriously going to look like that? That's horrific! X|
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Touch, touch and... touch, of course. For a desktop, I don't like it very much.
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Agreed, it's totally tablet/smartphone centric. From an ergonomical PoV it's terrible. It may be great for casual users, but anyone exposed to that kind of interface for a prolonged period will prefer an interface that can be controlled with hands on the table and a screen in front of your eyes, rather than below.
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
No matter if it's really a refreshing UI or not, The anti-MS zealots is always going to say NO to your question & vote it down. I've been using it for some weeks & I feel truly nice.
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
It isn't just you, I simply adore it.
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MDL=>Moshu wrote:
You can have multiple apps running even on the metro style. You can even have a split screen granted just for 2 apps.
So, well, just 2 apps really. In 1/2 screen each. so if one is, say something like notepad with a couple of notes in, it has to take up 50% of the screen - the great advantage of a windows world is that you can size to suit.
MDL=>Moshu wrote:
But splitting your screen with like 4 apps only make sense on a 26"+ display.
well, my Mac has a 27" display and my PC twin 24" displays - so makes sense.
MDL=>Moshu wrote:
On a desktop I don't even want to hear about metro. X|
Quite - but the example you shows was a desktop not a tablet - it was specifically comparing desktop OSs - otherwise you need to compare metro and Ios or Android, and not OSX
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No matter if it's really a refreshing UI or not, The anti-MS zealots is always going to say NO to your question & vote it down. I've been using it for some weeks & I feel truly nice.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
It is not just you. Especially looking at those two screen shots, the new MacOS looks incredibly boring. I also can't believe that, after suing Samsung because their tablet looks like a drawing Apple made years before, they go and almost exactly copy the MSE logo for their Gatekeeper! And, no, I'm not just trying to bash Apple. I used a Mac for many years. Even today, all my computers are dual-boot Windows/Linux. So, I'm not fully invested in any one platform. But, I do like the Windows 8 interface. It looks like a first step toward LCARS.
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
I've been using the phone for about a year now, and I think the UI works great there. I also was lucky enough to get one of the tablets they handed out at Build. I've used that as both a tablet and a more traditional desktop. I think the Metro UI works in both scenarios, but the traditional desktop sucked as a tablet. It was also kind of hard to judge because there are no compelling apps for the Metro side yet. Maybe when the app store goes beta? I would imagine a few good Metro apps and I'd like the interface even more.
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
It's been my understanding that the traditional interface (ie. regular Start button access and same ol' desktop) is not only still available in Win8, but the default for normal desktops. The metro UI is targeted specifically for mobile/touch devices (ie. primarily phones and tablets). Based on that premise some of the comments, such as those regarding the ergonomics, will not apply. On the other hand, if what I've read is wrong and they go with metro as standard everywhere, I think that'd be horrible for all of the same reasons mentioned by others. In terms of "over-simplified" simplicity of the interface, I agree that I had the same initial gut response - OS for kiddies. However, if you've used it I think you'll see the benefits. The tile concept provides clearly defined borders that icons do not; this becomes more important when you consider a broader touch vs mouse click and the concept of live tiles. The reality is that some apps are used more frequently than others - giving those larger tiles for emphasis and additional information (via live tiles) makes sense. That being said, I think there's still a way to go - this interface has to improve (just as Win7's Start Menu and Taskbar are significantly improved over the original Win95). The tiles need to be more customizable - the user should be allowed to select the tile size rather than it being defined by someone at MS (maybe you can do that now on Win8, but can't on WP7). I also believe some grouping or tagging system would help better define and improve the navigation of both the start menu and subsequent app listings. That's my 2c.
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
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Since metro style is the style mobile applications use and has been widely accepted by consumers, Windows 8 just goes with the trends. Therefore, it is not a question of liking it or not but doing development with it.
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It's been my understanding that the traditional interface (ie. regular Start button access and same ol' desktop) is not only still available in Win8, but the default for normal desktops. The metro UI is targeted specifically for mobile/touch devices (ie. primarily phones and tablets). Based on that premise some of the comments, such as those regarding the ergonomics, will not apply. On the other hand, if what I've read is wrong and they go with metro as standard everywhere, I think that'd be horrible for all of the same reasons mentioned by others. In terms of "over-simplified" simplicity of the interface, I agree that I had the same initial gut response - OS for kiddies. However, if you've used it I think you'll see the benefits. The tile concept provides clearly defined borders that icons do not; this becomes more important when you consider a broader touch vs mouse click and the concept of live tiles. The reality is that some apps are used more frequently than others - giving those larger tiles for emphasis and additional information (via live tiles) makes sense. That being said, I think there's still a way to go - this interface has to improve (just as Win7's Start Menu and Taskbar are significantly improved over the original Win95). The tiles need to be more customizable - the user should be allowed to select the tile size rather than it being defined by someone at MS (maybe you can do that now on Win8, but can't on WP7). I also believe some grouping or tagging system would help better define and improve the navigation of both the start menu and subsequent app listings. That's my 2c.
Coudn't agree more. There sure is tons of space for improvment. But it's a start. And a good one IMO. Regarding desktop I also know that the default will be the standard desktop. For a workstaion, I don't see much point in using the Metro. Metro si for mobile and quick grasps at things that matters. For a bussiness I see a lot of potential in the Metro tablets for managers and the likes. Also lot of new work and "streams of income" as POH said.
All the best, Dan
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
I love the Metro UI.
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
I don't get all the comments about the Metro UI being for primates or illiterate people. It's a great interface for touch devices and for the purpose it was designed, much better than the cluttered UIs of iPhone and Android. And on windows 8, you still get the classic desktop, so what's all the fuss about???? So, no, it's not just you.. ;-)
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I don't get all the comments about the Metro UI being for primates or illiterate people. It's a great interface for touch devices and for the purpose it was designed, much better than the cluttered UIs of iPhone and Android. And on windows 8, you still get the classic desktop, so what's all the fuss about???? So, no, it's not just you.. ;-)
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Agreed, it's totally tablet/smartphone centric. From an ergonomical PoV it's terrible. It may be great for casual users, but anyone exposed to that kind of interface for a prolonged period will prefer an interface that can be controlled with hands on the table and a screen in front of your eyes, rather than below.
I think it is brilliant for a desktop pc. I have many employees that are the "if it is not on the desktop it doesnt exist" type. This will ease my job in supporting them. Simplification is what most users want. Power users like us are kicking and screeming. But we will get used to it because we know how to learn computers.
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Ok you're just talking what the desktop looks like. I just hate the type of article you linked to, with it's bias it becomes useless otherbthan as a marketing tool. Speaking personally, I almost never see the desktop on either my Mac or pc. I run apps from the launch bar on both systems. What worries me about windows 8 UNi is the single-ap-at-a-time paradigm. I don't work that way.
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Ah, but you do work on just a single app at a time. WP7 mango lets you see all the running apps. I am sure an "Alt-Tab" like shortcut will emerge for win8. Metro forces the App developers to allow the OS to close/hibernate Apps not in use to keep the system running smooth. You should be able to re open an app you were on previously and the app starts up where you left off. So why have them open all the time?
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The possible causes for the fuzz IMO, are: 1) They really don't like it. 2) They wanna look cool/superior and what better way then bashing an MS product. :)
All the best, Dan
Well 1) If they don't like it, it's enough to simply say "I don't like it" and perhaps give intelligent explanations why they think it's not good. 2) By just bashing a MS product you don't end up looking superior, you end up looking like a not so smart fan boy. but shhh.. they don't know that.. ;-) Anyways, I guess the market will tell if the MS move is correct. Personally I like Metro, but whether it's great I will know for sure only when I will use it every day.