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  • D Dan Mos

    Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

    All the best, Dan

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    Alexander DiMauro
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    It is not just you. Especially looking at those two screen shots, the new MacOS looks incredibly boring. I also can't believe that, after suing Samsung because their tablet looks like a drawing Apple made years before, they go and almost exactly copy the MSE logo for their Gatekeeper! And, no, I'm not just trying to bash Apple. I used a Mac for many years. Even today, all my computers are dual-boot Windows/Linux. So, I'm not fully invested in any one platform. But, I do like the Windows 8 interface. It looks like a first step toward LCARS.

    The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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    • D Dan Mos

      Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

      All the best, Dan

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      Jeremy Hutchinson
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      I've been using the phone for about a year now, and I think the UI works great there. I also was lucky enough to get one of the tablets they handed out at Build. I've used that as both a tablet and a more traditional desktop. I think the Metro UI works in both scenarios, but the traditional desktop sucked as a tablet. It was also kind of hard to judge because there are no compelling apps for the Metro side yet. Maybe when the app store goes beta? I would imagine a few good Metro apps and I'd like the interface even more.

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      • D Dan Mos

        Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

        All the best, Dan

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        It's been my understanding that the traditional interface (ie. regular Start button access and same ol' desktop) is not only still available in Win8, but the default for normal desktops. The metro UI is targeted specifically for mobile/touch devices (ie. primarily phones and tablets). Based on that premise some of the comments, such as those regarding the ergonomics, will not apply. On the other hand, if what I've read is wrong and they go with metro as standard everywhere, I think that'd be horrible for all of the same reasons mentioned by others. In terms of "over-simplified" simplicity of the interface, I agree that I had the same initial gut response - OS for kiddies. However, if you've used it I think you'll see the benefits. The tile concept provides clearly defined borders that icons do not; this becomes more important when you consider a broader touch vs mouse click and the concept of live tiles. The reality is that some apps are used more frequently than others - giving those larger tiles for emphasis and additional information (via live tiles) makes sense. That being said, I think there's still a way to go - this interface has to improve (just as Win7's Start Menu and Taskbar are significantly improved over the original Win95). The tiles need to be more customizable - the user should be allowed to select the tile size rather than it being defined by someone at MS (maybe you can do that now on Win8, but can't on WP7). I also believe some grouping or tagging system would help better define and improve the navigation of both the start menu and subsequent app listings. That's my 2c.

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        • D Dan Mos

          Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

          All the best, Dan

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          Tomz_KV
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          Since metro style is the style mobile applications use and has been widely accepted by consumers, Windows 8 just goes with the trends. Therefore, it is not a question of liking it or not but doing development with it.

          TOMZ_KV

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            Since metro style is the style mobile applications use and has been widely accepted by consumers, Windows 8 just goes with the trends. Therefore, it is not a question of liking it or not but doing development with it.

            TOMZ_KV

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            Dan Mos
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            Exactly. But if we(developers) don't like, we don't write apps for it. So being a dev site and even more a MS centric site, liking it means developing for it. :)

            All the best, Dan

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              It's been my understanding that the traditional interface (ie. regular Start button access and same ol' desktop) is not only still available in Win8, but the default for normal desktops. The metro UI is targeted specifically for mobile/touch devices (ie. primarily phones and tablets). Based on that premise some of the comments, such as those regarding the ergonomics, will not apply. On the other hand, if what I've read is wrong and they go with metro as standard everywhere, I think that'd be horrible for all of the same reasons mentioned by others. In terms of "over-simplified" simplicity of the interface, I agree that I had the same initial gut response - OS for kiddies. However, if you've used it I think you'll see the benefits. The tile concept provides clearly defined borders that icons do not; this becomes more important when you consider a broader touch vs mouse click and the concept of live tiles. The reality is that some apps are used more frequently than others - giving those larger tiles for emphasis and additional information (via live tiles) makes sense. That being said, I think there's still a way to go - this interface has to improve (just as Win7's Start Menu and Taskbar are significantly improved over the original Win95). The tiles need to be more customizable - the user should be allowed to select the tile size rather than it being defined by someone at MS (maybe you can do that now on Win8, but can't on WP7). I also believe some grouping or tagging system would help better define and improve the navigation of both the start menu and subsequent app listings. That's my 2c.

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              Dan Mos
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              Coudn't agree more. There sure is tons of space for improvment. But it's a start. And a good one IMO. Regarding desktop I also know that the default will be the standard desktop. For a workstaion, I don't see much point in using the Metro. Metro si for mobile and quick grasps at things that matters. For a bussiness I see a lot of potential in the Metro tablets for managers and the likes. Also lot of new work and "streams of income" as POH said.

              All the best, Dan

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              • D Dan Mos

                Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

                All the best, Dan

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                Marc A Brown
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                I love the Metro UI.

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                • D Dan Mos

                  Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

                  All the best, Dan

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                  zulu
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                  I don't get all the comments about the Metro UI being for primates or illiterate people. It's a great interface for touch devices and for the purpose it was designed, much better than the cluttered UIs of iPhone and Android. And on windows 8, you still get the classic desktop, so what's all the fuss about???? So, no, it's not just you.. ;-)

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                    I don't get all the comments about the Metro UI being for primates or illiterate people. It's a great interface for touch devices and for the purpose it was designed, much better than the cluttered UIs of iPhone and Android. And on windows 8, you still get the classic desktop, so what's all the fuss about???? So, no, it's not just you.. ;-)

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                    Dan Mos
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                    The possible causes for the fuzz IMO, are: 1) They really don't like it. 2) They wanna look cool/superior and what better way then bashing an MS product. :)

                    All the best, Dan

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                      Agreed, it's totally tablet/smartphone centric. From an ergonomical PoV it's terrible. It may be great for casual users, but anyone exposed to that kind of interface for a prolonged period will prefer an interface that can be controlled with hands on the table and a screen in front of your eyes, rather than below.

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                      I think it is brilliant for a desktop pc. I have many employees that are the "if it is not on the desktop it doesnt exist" type. This will ease my job in supporting them. Simplification is what most users want. Power users like us are kicking and screeming. But we will get used to it because we know how to learn computers.

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                        Ok you're just talking what the desktop looks like. I just hate the type of article you linked to, with it's bias it becomes useless otherbthan as a marketing tool. Speaking personally, I almost never see the desktop on either my Mac or pc. I run apps from the launch bar on both systems. What worries me about windows 8 UNi is the single-ap-at-a-time paradigm. I don't work that way.

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                        Ah, but you do work on just a single app at a time. WP7 mango lets you see all the running apps. I am sure an "Alt-Tab" like shortcut will emerge for win8. Metro forces the App developers to allow the OS to close/hibernate Apps not in use to keep the system running smooth. You should be able to re open an app you were on previously and the app starts up where you left off. So why have them open all the time?

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                        • D Dan Mos

                          The possible causes for the fuzz IMO, are: 1) They really don't like it. 2) They wanna look cool/superior and what better way then bashing an MS product. :)

                          All the best, Dan

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                          zulu
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                          Well 1) If they don't like it, it's enough to simply say "I don't like it" and perhaps give intelligent explanations why they think it's not good. 2) By just bashing a MS product you don't end up looking superior, you end up looking like a not so smart fan boy. but shhh.. they don't know that.. ;-) Anyways, I guess the market will tell if the MS move is correct. Personally I like Metro, but whether it's great I will know for sure only when I will use it every day.

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                          • D Dan Mos

                            Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

                            All the best, Dan

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                            BrainiacV
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                            I love it on my WinPhone, it may be adequate for a WinPad, but unless I get a touchscreen desktop monitor...no. And even if I had a desktop touchscreen, I'd fear getting "gorilla arm" from having to reach and touch it to do anything.

                            Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                            • D Dan Mos

                              Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

                              All the best, Dan

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                              ClockMeister
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                              I don't care for Metro, myself. I was a Windows Phone user until I saw Metro coming and decided it was time to go iOS for my phones. I haven't regretted that choice. As for my desktop/development systems? Not interested. If I ever decide to buy a tablet it will NOT be a Metro one. -Max

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                              • D Dan Mos

                                Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

                                All the best, Dan

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                                User 8272238
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                                Probably is just you, comparing the two pictures Metro Is hideous enough to make Mountain Lion look great. What am I saying I detest anything Apple but at least it looks like you might get some work done with it apart from Twitter and Facebook I hate them too! O.K. Rant over must have a cup of tea and calm down.

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                                  I think it is brilliant for a desktop pc. I have many employees that are the "if it is not on the desktop it doesnt exist" type. This will ease my job in supporting them. Simplification is what most users want. Power users like us are kicking and screeming. But we will get used to it because we know how to learn computers.

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                                  Stefan_Lang
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                                  My argument was purely about ergonomy, not usability. Regarding the latter, I think it's fine, and probably an improvement over the classical desktop OS. The problem I see is that a touch screen is ergonomically horrible for professional use, and we do not yet have a suitable input device to replace touch input for use at a computer work place for people who have to work at a computer for several hours a day. Yes, of course, we can just use a mouse - but mouse movements don't translate well to stuff like swipes, especially when the space on your desk is limited: you'll have to be very considerate where you put your coffee mug! Maybe a touch pad will work better - but then we've had touch pads for decades and they were never really adopted. Same for trackballs.

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                                  • D Dan Mos

                                    Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

                                    All the best, Dan

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                                    Glosse
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                                    Like it or not, contrary to many pundits, Windows 8 is going to be BIG. At least on smart phones (Windows Phone 7.5 Metro is way smooth to use) and tablets. And on the desktop, but not in Metro mode. Why? Microsoft's ace in the hole is the billion plus PCs out there. Metro devices will sync well with the desktop and the cloud. Drop your small tablet in your pocket and you are out the door with your contacts, email, music, slide show, what have you. Oh, and you can make calls too. Wifi Skype? Coming soon I'll wager...

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                                    • D Dan Mos

                                      Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

                                      All the best, Dan

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                                      Joe Rattz
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                                      Metro UI seems like a big step back to me. Square corners, bland colors, and no shadows or 3D. It's not the UI I have come to expect and appreciate. What is the point of having big bright beautiful displays with high resolution if the UI looks like Metro? It feels like something that would have existed in the late '80s. I haven't used it yet so maybe I will feel differently after using it, but I can't say that I am excited about the prospect of using it.


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                                      • D Dan Mos

                                        Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.

                                        All the best, Dan

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                                        VLAZ55
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                                        Yes, I do like the meto look. I have a WP7 and the UI just seems to work very well. Its simple and very easy to follow. Will Win8 have live titles like WP7?

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          It is aimed at the illiterate. They cannot read nor write, but colourful symbols with smiley faces will enable them to live a full and happy life, filled with Twatter, Wastebook and Thickipedia.

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                                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                                          It is aimed at the illiterate

                                          I suspect they may have also read my favorite science fiction short story of all times -- The Marching Morons -- and decided to get an early start :). Probably one of the most influential (for me) looks at society I've ever read... and it just keeps getting truer and truer every year.

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