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  • D Dalek Dave

    Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

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    Corporal Agarn
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    I write them on occasion. Then again I too am an "old fogy". :)

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    • D Dalek Dave

      Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

      --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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      leppie
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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files?

      I do, but only basic stuff :)

      IronScheme
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      • L Lost User

        I usually prefer using .bat files to do repetitive and trivial things. Btw, shouldn't this post be titled "Scripting question"?

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        Dalek Dave
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        You make a good point!

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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files?

          I do, but only basic stuff :)

          IronScheme
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          Dalek Dave
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          DOS stuff, not Basic stuff surely :)

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

            --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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            Joan M
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            I'm BATman! :rolleyes: I still do it DD! and they work nice... truly I've always found it confusing to fiddle with vbs...

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            • D Dalek Dave

              Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

              --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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              GuyThiebaut
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              I use them for moving a large number of files when working on version control...

              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

              ― Christopher Hitchens

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              • L Lost User

                What's odd about them?

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                Pete OHanlon
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                I discard the even ones.

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                • C CPallini

                  Right: we young people just write a bunch of shell scripts or awk ones.

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  Heck, I was writing Unix scripts before you were born.

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                  "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                    I have been known to write the odd .bat file, as well as PowerShell scripts.

                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                    Eytukan
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                    Though I'm supposed to forget .bats long before, I continue to stay in touch with them, at least to brag I'm a legendary coder. I've observed it many times, people who write .bat files are looked up as smart coders And the one that writes a little command prompt .exe in C++ or .net look dumb :-D Anyway I write the basic scripts, but when it gets complex, I ring up the old dino Gary :)

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      Heck, I was writing Unix scripts before you were born.

                      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      It's a shame Henry isn't here He could tell us of his days poking holes in cards!

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                        --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                        Jochen Arndt
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                        I do so occasionally using GNU utilities for Windows (UnxUtils).

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                          --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                          Alberto Bar Noy
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                          I call them .cmd files but I use them a lot.

                          Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                            --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                            hairy_hats
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                            Not for a good long while, anything more than a directory listing and I write a program.

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                              --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              Indubitably. And I still spend most of my day in a DOS box.

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                                --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                David Crow
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                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files?

                                I do. In some ways, they can't be beat.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  A makefile is nothing more than a batch file with a command line to call the compiler for each source file, then one or more command lines calling the linker and perhaps some commands to deploy or copy the results. An IDE usually lets you edit all kinds of compiler and linker options and then generates the makefile from the contents of your project and those options. Or you can simply write the makefile yourself with any simple editor like wordpad. You just have to know how to call the compiler and linker and what options and parameters your compiler needs or supports. It's just like writing command lines in the console. The makefile only saves you from typing all this every time you want to build your project. I guess, all this should be documented in the compiler's and linker's documentation. Edit: Usually the compiler includes some tool to process the makefile. My simple C compiler for old 8 bit machines does not, so I use plain vanilla .BAT files, which does not really make much of a difference. Whenever I want to build my project, I simply call something like 'make.bat' at the command line and look what kind of results I get in the in the console. Edit^2: I just dug this[^] out in MSDN. It describes how to build from the command line with makefiles and NMAKE. NMAKE is a little more powerful than a simple batch and the commands are not simple command lines anymore, but it's still very much the same idea.

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                                  Mike Hankey
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                                  The IDE uses gcc for compiling and linking but the makefile is really a generic file used to build the code. The problem I have is understanding the commands. For some reason haven't been able to wrap my little brain around it.

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                                    --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                    wizardzz
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                                    Working on one right now actually. They use em at my new job, but in all fairness, there is a lot of batch processing being done.

                                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                                      --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                                      If I have a small repetative task I'll whip up a cmd file. Why not? Simple is best.

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                                      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                        The IDE uses gcc for compiling and linking but the makefile is really a generic file used to build the code. The problem I have is understanding the commands. For some reason haven't been able to wrap my little brain around it.

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                                        It's really just a batch job, compiling each source file with the options you want. The results (usually .obj files) are then bound to gether by the linker, again using the linking options you specify. The result should be some kind of executable. The rest of the makefile just deals with finding the required libraries, cleaning up or deplaying your compiled executable to whereever you want to have it. It's really just a simple script to describe the build process. Don't let all those options or fancy (but not really important) features like including other makefiles confuse you. Just take a look at the gcc documentation and try it step by step with a very simple test project with, let's say, two source file. Once you have that working, you can go on and try out all kinds of options to see what effect they have.

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?

                                          --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live

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                                          gavindon
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                                          I have been known to write one or two. and I have not been in the IT business all that long..they just have their uses and if it aint broke, don't fix it.

                                          It used to be what you know that got you ahead, then it was who you know, now its what you know about who you know that gets you ahead. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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