Programming Question
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
I do, and it is still very usefull. When things go "wrong", there is nothing like a command prompt and some .bat files to fix things fast. :) Long live the knowledge!
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
Please add my vote for .BAT and .CMD files for at least these 2 reasons: 1) The runtime environment already exists with Windows, OS/2, DOS 2) Other team members can easily see what is going on and modify/improve the batch code Lots of samples found on web... #2 satisfies computer programming (communication) aspect: another human WILL read your code sometime and sharing early and publicly and in a way that allows more team members to empower themselves by modifying code to suit their needs seems like a better practice to me. Ex: Automated Testing; Original defect happened 1 of 4 tries manually. Root cause is somewhere in MS Win OS 64 bit networking layer behind a COM interface. So used .bat file to: run ipconfig and capture to .txt file run find to see if the expected IP address is present stop running batch file if IP not found else either Enable or Disable NIC device and reboot to try to reproduce again Since I could not fix the MS Win OS 64 bit networking code, I "hardened" the app code side with extra functionality checking even though COM interfaces reported S_OK and added a handler for recoverable errors. After incremental "hardening" the error rate went down to 1 of 1000 or more. Letting the batch file run automatically overnight and (later) over the weekend helped find even more subtle defects (places to harden) as well. Later on I used variations to do stress testing for app memory and handle leaks. Members of the Test team would also use/modify for tests. Hope this helps!
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Yes Pete, but alas you are venerable and aged, like me. I bet them young whippersnappers don't!
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
Actually I am 14 and I wrote one to start defraggler and CCleaner when my computer starts up. But I didn't know that the startup folder only starts exe files instead of BAT files. So know I just run it so I don't have to start both of them manually
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
Dalek Dave wrote:
Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files?
I am admitting that I write batch scripts... :(
Regards, Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji
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It's a shame Henry isn't here He could tell us of his days poking holes in cards!
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
Gee, I never poked a hole in a card, :-D I sat at a massive mixture of devices and desk top with a keyboard. I poked a key, the device made a crunching sound, the card slightly moved and I either repeated or poked something else to release the card punched full of holes, which was pushed into a stack of cards. At the University, I also sat at something the size of the old typewriters that spat out a ribbon of paper. Usually over 10 feet long, imagine the swearing when the ribbon ripped. I can't remember how long the boot tape was, it took about 5 minutes to load in the machine.
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Same here, I'm a young guy and I just wrapped up writing some serious bat files to replace the old mainframe JCL we had hanging around; the government agency I work for (hint: we sent people to the Moon that one time) just turned off our last mainframe this month. -- Steven
Personally, I count orbiting the moon as going to the moon. Granted, a lot less tricky than landing on it, but when was the last time you got on a bus that orbited the moon? :) Also, personally, I think 13 proved to be a VERY lucky number considering no-one died.
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
I'm an old fogy(sp?) and still use it. I'm embarrassed to admit that I don't know powershell, so it looks like dos to me. (Unless I'm clueless what the command is doing.) I've looked at (worked with, and when it doesn't work, modify) deployment scripts that heavily used dos.
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
I write them at work to copy files that have to be copied from one place to another routinely. Since I can't write real code at work any more(ever since the overseers came)I have to be satisfied with DOS scripts.
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Heh.. first job at a large computer firm I had was writing job decks and algol programs at Unisys. With punch cards! Cards were on their way out when I did this.. but you could still find folks with large card decks on their desks.
Ever drop one of those decks and screw up the jcl sequences. I did, not fun. thankfully they were numbered and I was able to reassemble it using an old mechanical sorter. Any body remember those ? Wrote and used a .bat file the other day to clean up a bunch of MSIlog files 20K worth (thank you microsoft).
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
I still write .bat files. I do alot of command line FTP crap and batch files are just the thing :)
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Ever drop one of those decks and screw up the jcl sequences. I did, not fun. thankfully they were numbered and I was able to reassemble it using an old mechanical sorter. Any body remember those ? Wrote and used a .bat file the other day to clean up a bunch of MSIlog files 20K worth (thank you microsoft).
LOL We used punch cards on an IBM mainframe when I was in college(MANY moons ago). I had a 500 line Assembly program and dropped the deck. Took me hours to get all the cards back in order. It wasn't funny then but it is now. :laugh:
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
I still use .bat files. Sometimes a small batch file on ur desktop is the most elegant solution to simplify things. I know there are better techniques around now that PowerShell is there. But since my requirements are simple, i stick to my old DOS knowledge :)
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Yes Pete, but alas you are venerable and aged, like me. I bet them young whippersnappers don't!
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
I also am a whipper snapper and I still use bat files. Why write a full blown application when all you want to do is chain a couple of pre-existing applications? Of course, not everyone thinks like that. It depends on whether you're good at building a big picture out of small parts or whether you can only see the big picture. On my machine at present I have one bat files that is run twice a week to remove old files from my downloads and temp directories. Means I can drop stuff there and forget about it. I only delete files that are older than a week, though, hence the need for batch. I've also just used batch to put together a script to fire on check-in on cruise control to minify some javascript libraries for me. Could've used a whole new application, but why bother?
Er, I can't think of a funny signature right now. How about a good fart to break the silence?
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Gee, I never poked a hole in a card, :-D I sat at a massive mixture of devices and desk top with a keyboard. I poked a key, the device made a crunching sound, the card slightly moved and I either repeated or poked something else to release the card punched full of holes, which was pushed into a stack of cards. At the University, I also sat at something the size of the old typewriters that spat out a ribbon of paper. Usually over 10 feet long, imagine the swearing when the ribbon ripped. I can't remember how long the boot tape was, it took about 5 minutes to load in the machine.
Yes, I still occasionally use .BAT files. I no longer poke holes in cards or tape, though. I started with tape; we didn't have a "machine" but we did have a small hand-held bit of metal with some holes in it. You put the tape on it, screwed down a retaining bar and then took a "poker" and pushed it through guide holes in the retaining bar to make the holes in the tape. Then we "moved up" to cards, and had a mechanical hand-held device with an array of 12 "keys" that you had to push (rather hard as I recall, and having memorised the hole positions relating to the different letters/numbers/characters) to punch out the holes in the card. The machine automatically then moved the card one position along. What a treat to move from those devices to a teletype with a card-punch/reader, and then at college to use the electric card punch machines, which had an actual keyboard... :-) OTOH, my first full-time employer had a "punch room" full of "young ladies" doing the punching, from our hand-written coding sheets. Always a treat to take a program down to the punch room or collect a deck... :cool:
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
Way back in school I used punch cards and paper tape. More recently programmed in lots of old antiquated languages (Fortran, Bliss, Ada, various assembly, several others I don't list on my resume any more...) Scipted in VMS DCL, and now DOS batch. Mostly build stuff, or runing the app that I programmed. DOS is a newcomer y'know...
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Who (apart from my good self) still writes .bat files? Are they common or am I one of the old fogies that still employs his DOS knowledge?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live