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  • E Eytukan

    When you define an API like

    GetAllItems()

    You'll write

    void GetAllItems(list& lst)

    or

    list& GetAllItems()

    What's your choice? Which one looks more API-consumer friendly?

    Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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    __yash__
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    LIST_GET_STATUS GetAllItems( LIST *pLst )

    I would use this where LIST_GET_STATUS would either return SUCCESS or a failure code.

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    • E Eytukan

      When you define an API like

      GetAllItems()

      You'll write

      void GetAllItems(list& lst)

      or

      list& GetAllItems()

      What's your choice? Which one looks more API-consumer friendly?

      Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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      Maximilien
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      Language ? In C++ (pre 11), I'd do

      void GetAllItems(list& lst)

      c++11, I'd do (I think that's the good syntax):

      list GetAllItems();

      That will be a move operation on the list.

      Watched code never compiles.

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      • E Eytukan

        When you define an API like

        GetAllItems()

        You'll write

        void GetAllItems(list& lst)

        or

        list& GetAllItems()

        What's your choice? Which one looks more API-consumer friendly?

        Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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        W Balboos GHB
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        Most commonly I'd use the second one (unless I've a particular need for the first, actually) BUT - - - it would be declared as list* GetAllItems(). [or in managed C++, list ^GetAllItems() ]. There's another option occasionally of use: Declaring the list at a scope higher (outside) the call. Then one can feed back different info, such as boolean as a success flag, or an int count of items in the list. This depends a lot on where I need to use the list and the type of persistence I require. This makes the call essentially an init or load method. Does anyone else ever use this type of method?

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        • E Eytukan

          When you define an API like

          GetAllItems()

          You'll write

          void GetAllItems(list& lst)

          or

          list& GetAllItems()

          What's your choice? Which one looks more API-consumer friendly?

          Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          The latter. I try to avoid void functions; there should be something to return, at least a boolean (for success or failure) or a count of items, but returning the collection makes the most sense, even if you also pass in the collection to fill or add to: list& GetAllItems(list& lst) the caller can then use or ignore the return value.

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          • E Eytukan

            When you define an API like

            GetAllItems()

            You'll write

            void GetAllItems(list& lst)

            or

            list& GetAllItems()

            What's your choice? Which one looks more API-consumer friendly?

            Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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            Lost User
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            I'd prefer the second one. 1. It requires less code (I don't even have to declare a variable to hold the results if all I have to do is to pass it on to another method - call chaining). 2. 'Get' should 'get' something, not load or fill something.

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            • E Eytukan

              When you define an API like

              GetAllItems()

              You'll write

              void GetAllItems(list& lst)

              or

              list& GetAllItems()

              What's your choice? Which one looks more API-consumer friendly?

              Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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              John M Drescher
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              bool GetAllItems(list& lstItems)

              John

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              • A Alberto Bar Noy

                More "professional" is

                void GetAllItems(list& lst)

                IMO

                Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)

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                BobJanova
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                Any reason for that?

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                • E Eytukan

                  When you define an API like

                  GetAllItems()

                  You'll write

                  void GetAllItems(list& lst)

                  or

                  list& GetAllItems()

                  What's your choice? Which one looks more API-consumer friendly?

                  Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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                  BobJanova
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                  It depends on the language, to some extent. In most modern languages I'd definitely do the second one, and I think that a method called 'GetXxx' should always return Xxx. However, the second way almost guarantees that you are having to create a new list inside that method, and there may be situations where that is important. In that case, I'd at least allow passing in a list, but I probably wouldn't call it GetXxx in that case. If memory was critical, I'd do something like (pseudo)

                  list& GetAllItems(){
                  return FillWithAllItems(new list());
                  }

                  list& FillWithAllItems(list& input){
                  input.add(item1);
                  // etc
                  return input;
                  }

                  ... and in the positions where you want to re-use an existing list, you can do so, but if you don't care, you can still use the more user-friendly Get method. Ideologically returning the list is correct because

                  • it is closer to functional programming
                  • you are logically getting a list, so that's what the method should do
                  • you can chain method calls that way

                  ... but in certain circumstances it may be necessary to re-use memory and pass an instance in. I've actually faced exactly this situation with Vector.<Vector3D>, and maths operations on my vector class, in Flash (AS3). I started with the nice way and then added the option to reuse instances for efficiency reasons.

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                  • _ __yash__

                    LIST_GET_STATUS GetAllItems( LIST *pLst )

                    I would use this where LIST_GET_STATUS would either return SUCCESS or a failure code.

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                    Eytukan
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                    __yash__ wrote:

                    LIST_GET_STATUS GetAllItems( LIST *pLst )

                    Well, using LIST* might make the code look more manlier, but I wouldn't like the idea of doing this.

                    LIST_GET_STATUS GetAllItems( LIST *pLst )
                    {

                    if(NULL!=pLst)//forgetting this would give you a bang at times!
                    {
                    }
                    }

                    Hence, & > * .

                    Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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                    • E Eytukan

                      __yash__ wrote:

                      LIST_GET_STATUS GetAllItems( LIST *pLst )

                      Well, using LIST* might make the code look more manlier, but I wouldn't like the idea of doing this.

                      LIST_GET_STATUS GetAllItems( LIST *pLst )
                      {

                      if(NULL!=pLst)//forgetting this would give you a bang at times!
                      {
                      }
                      }

                      Hence, & > * .

                      Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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                      __yash__
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                      It's been really long since I last worked with C++, hence posted in C. In any case my point was to have a return value also so as to know whether

                      GetAllItems()

                      succeeded or failed. If failed, then what was the reason.

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                      • B BobJanova

                        Any reason for that?

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                        CPallini
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                        #18

                        "More Professional" :-D

                        Veni, vidi, vici.

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                        • _ __yash__

                          LIST_GET_STATUS GetAllItems( LIST *pLst )

                          I would use this where LIST_GET_STATUS would either return SUCCESS or a failure code.

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                          CPallini
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                          There's NULL for that.

                          Veni, vidi, vici.

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                          • C CPallini

                            There's NULL for that.

                            Veni, vidi, vici.

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                            __yash__
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                            You could have more than "binary" number of reasons why something failed. An error code can be used to indicate just that.

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                            • _ __yash__

                              You could have more than "binary" number of reasons why something failed. An error code can be used to indicate just that.

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                              CPallini
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                              There's GetLastError or errno or whatever, for this.

                              Veni, vidi, vici.

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                              • E Eytukan

                                When you define an API like

                                GetAllItems()

                                You'll write

                                void GetAllItems(list& lst)

                                or

                                list& GetAllItems()

                                What's your choice? Which one looks more API-consumer friendly?

                                Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                Assuming this is C++, then certainly not the second since it returns a reference to something that I assume would be local (on the stack -- upon return the stack is destroyed) or a member of the class (violation of data hiding). In modern C++, I'd use

                                list GetAllItems()

                                because it's a move operation (no copy ctor is used), and throw an exception if there were an error. In pre-modern C++, I'd use

                                void GetAllItems(list& items)

                                because returning an object causes a copy to be made. (And throw an exception if there were an error.)

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                • G GParkings

                                  to me a 'Getfoo()' should always return a foo. if you want something to populate a collection argument it should be 'FillFoo(foo fooToFill)' choice of option depends on the details of how you expect the method to be used. if you expect the user to be working with a pre-existing collection or to call the method several times for the same collection then the latter makes sense, if you expect a one-shot 'gimme the stuffs' useage (used only to create the collection) then the former is better

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                                  wizardzz
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                                  Wow, the tribe has spoken and you are correct!

                                  "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                  • W wizardzz

                                    Wow, the tribe has spoken and you are correct!

                                    "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                    GParkings
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                                    had to happen at least once, eh?

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                                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                      Assuming this is C++, then certainly not the second since it returns a reference to something that I assume would be local (on the stack -- upon return the stack is destroyed) or a member of the class (violation of data hiding). In modern C++, I'd use

                                      list GetAllItems()

                                      because it's a move operation (no copy ctor is used), and throw an exception if there were an error. In pre-modern C++, I'd use

                                      void GetAllItems(list& items)

                                      because returning an object causes a copy to be made. (And throw an exception if there were an error.)

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                      W Balboos GHB
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                                      Interesting. My habits in C++ (new or old) would be to return a pointer to the list. If managed, then it will persist. If unmanaged, then it will stay until I delete it. Returning non-pointers is usually relegated to either native types or structures, but 'never' to an array. For array-returns, null for failures (particularly if they're an expected result) possibly via an exception caught in the callee, and throwing an exception to the caller only if I need to diagnose/handle true error conditions.

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                                      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

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                                      • E Eytukan

                                        When you define an API like

                                        GetAllItems()

                                        You'll write

                                        void GetAllItems(list& lst)

                                        or

                                        list& GetAllItems()

                                        What's your choice? Which one looks more API-consumer friendly?

                                        Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        VuNic wrote:

                                        void GetAllItems(list& lst)

                                        Why call it "Get..." when you're actually setting the ref value? A Get should return something.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                          VuNic wrote:

                                          void GetAllItems(list& lst)

                                          Why call it "Get..." when you're actually setting the ref value? A Get should return something.

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                          Eytukan
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                                          It's like pushing a mug to the bar attender & saying "get" me some beer. Though there's some "set" it's actually a Get. :)

                                          Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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