VS2011 - Oh Dear.
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I don't understand this anti-trust crap. If you make an operating system, why aren't you allowed to include some free stuff like browsers with it? The people who file such suits should instead concentrate on creating better products that people would not mind paying for.
I really loved it when Microsoft was taking to court on integrating IE into Windows. At the time my attitude was that if these people had thier way, we would still have to use third party network drivers, and the mouse interface would not be standardized. It use to be a real pain to hook a computer up to the network. It use to be a real pain to get connected to the internet. Now it is not even worth worrying about, it just happens.
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Clifford Nelson wrote:
Apple programming environment is probably the worst.
Ohhh, I don't know! I've seen FAR worse then XCode. XCode isn't the best IDE in the world, but it is free, after all.
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
I voted five because some creap voted 1, and that is not fair.
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I don't understand this anti-trust crap. If you make an operating system, why aren't you allowed to include some free stuff like browsers with it? The people who file such suits should instead concentrate on creating better products that people would not mind paying for.
Some creap is down voting messages that do not deserver to be down voted. I voted 5 for this because it has merit, and did not deserve to be voted only a 1.
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So why did someone vote one. Obvioulsly a coward since did not provide a reason. If the user interface were better of office products, then I would not see people using double returns at the end of paragraphs, I could not be people creating forms without using the form tool. My personal opinion is that Usability research is very weak at Microsoft. Also Microsoft should strive for consistancy between products to make it easier to move from one to the other. For instance there is little consistancy in the use of function keys. Yes there are some, but not many. The list could go on and on.
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The Notepad++ developers will start an anti-trust case if MS were to update Notepad and include it bundled with Windows... ;P
There has been somebody coming through and voting one for everything. Voted 5.
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Clifford Nelson wrote:
So why did someone vote one.
Get used to it. Downvoting is the norm here. I have suggested more than once that comments be made mandatory for downvotes, but no one seems to listen.
Lovely. I agree that comments should be included. I have been upvoting just because somebody votes a 1 and I cannot see a reason. I guess some people cannot handle other people's opinion. If I think it is an opinion issue I will not vote. I have made an exception with comments that are down voted when it seems unjustified. If I read an article, I will almost never down vote. I might provide a author a comment, but will not down vote. An article that is not valuable to me or I have a hard time understanding the comments may be of great value to someone else.
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Clifford Nelson wrote:
So why did someone vote one.
Get used to it. Downvoting is the norm here. I have suggested more than once that comments be made mandatory for downvotes, but no one seems to listen.
As I have stated, I see others who get a 1 vote and I cannot see why.
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I have a bit of a bias against Apple. I use to be a big fan of Apple, but resented what little they did to make it easy to program for. Also the cost of Apple products far exceeded what was reasonable, and Apple has managed to do a real good job at requiring upgrades (which cost money), they just don't get strung up on it by the press.
I've never noticed a pay-for-upgrade problem; I think the last major OS upgrade was Lion which was what, $50 or something - far less than windows. Sure the hardware is expensive when looking at the tech specs - but Rolls Royce don't get berated at charging more for quality either. The big advantage I find with Apple is that there's one place to go - if there's an issue with your computer, you go to apple - no HW v SW arguments. You say they don't make it easy to program for Apple platform - well I disagree there too; XCode may not be the best thing out there, but it is free, well supported, has lots of documentation and tutorials... I really struggle with Objective C, but that's a learning curve thing - the way C# is changing over time I find just as hard to keep up with sometimes. I'm not particularly an Apple Fan Boy - but having used both platforms as a user and a developer my feeling is that, had I spent the same amount of development time an Apples that I have on PCs, I would be just as happy
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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I've never noticed a pay-for-upgrade problem; I think the last major OS upgrade was Lion which was what, $50 or something - far less than windows. Sure the hardware is expensive when looking at the tech specs - but Rolls Royce don't get berated at charging more for quality either. The big advantage I find with Apple is that there's one place to go - if there's an issue with your computer, you go to apple - no HW v SW arguments. You say they don't make it easy to program for Apple platform - well I disagree there too; XCode may not be the best thing out there, but it is free, well supported, has lots of documentation and tutorials... I really struggle with Objective C, but that's a learning curve thing - the way C# is changing over time I find just as hard to keep up with sometimes. I'm not particularly an Apple Fan Boy - but having used both platforms as a user and a developer my feeling is that, had I spent the same amount of development time an Apples that I have on PCs, I would be just as happy
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
That is true. There is never any of the hardware software issue there is with Microsoft except when apple leaves you behind because you have an old machine. I think that the problems with Windows is caused more by the hardware vendors than Microsoft. People complain when Microsoft forces the hardware vendors to go to standards. All I can say is thank god for the Microsoft Mouse only because it standardized mice. Apple effectively gave us micro floppies and USB, and I appreciate that.
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There has been somebody coming through and voting one for everything. Voted 5.