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I've just had a rather interesting idea...

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  • L Lost User

    In a windowed working environment, one thing that, i think, slows me down a bit, is mouse accuracy. When I am clicking on, say, the Big X to close a window, in Windows - or the equivalent in any other OS, the X is small, my screen is large - so my mouse has to move a long way, then slow and stop accurately on the X. So how about this for an idea? Allow buttons (such as the X) to have a 'depth' and, possibly, a radius. Give the mouse pointer a property (call it 'weight') So, when the mouse pointer approaches the X, at distance Radius it starts to 'roll towards' the center of the X. Gently at first (so, a gravity-like effect, if you will). And once the mouse is within the radius, it would take more 'effort' to move it out. I reckon, with a bit of effort, it would be completely and utterly awesome. Which means someone has probably already done it! What do you think? Genius or Fool? And, now I've mentioned it publicly, does that mean I can't patent it?

    MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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    Joe Woodbury
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    So you have several windows on top of each other. Which one gets the black hole experience? Oh, the top one. But what if I don't want to close the top one, but the window just behind it, whose "X" is right above the "X" of the active window? Or, I don't want to close the window at all, just drag the mouse to another part of the screen, but all the black hole buttons keep sucking my mouse off track like it's a stumbling drunk. In other words, it would suck :laugh:

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    • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

      Just use the keyboard (alt+f4, in this case) :)


      - S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on! Code, follow, or get out of the way.

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      Lost User
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      My idea was a generic one with a specific example.

      MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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        So you have several windows on top of each other. Which one gets the black hole experience? Oh, the top one. But what if I don't want to close the top one, but the window just behind it, whose "X" is right above the "X" of the active window? Or, I don't want to close the window at all, just drag the mouse to another part of the screen, but all the black hole buttons keep sucking my mouse off track like it's a stumbling drunk. In other words, it would suck :laugh:

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        Joe Woodbury wrote:

        Which one gets the black hole experience? Oh, the top one. But what if I don't want to close the top one, but the window just behind it, whose "X" is right above the "X" of the active window?

        Well, if you mean the X is sitting 'in front of' the X below (on the Z axis) - then no difference, you can't see it, you can't interact with it. If you mean it is aligned slightly higher on the Y axis, then the 'attraction' to the two should form a sort of w whape, so the mouse pointer would be attracted to whichever it is closest to.

        Joe Woodbury wrote:

        Or, I don't want to close the window at all, just drag the mouse to another part of the screen, but all the black hole buttons keep sucking my mouse off track like it's a stumbling drunk.

        not a black hole, but a gentle gravitational attraction, probably affecting the mouse only when it is moving below a certain velocity.

        Joe Woodbury wrote:

        In other words, it would suck

        Yes, it would suck the pointer into the required position with more accuracy.

        MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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        • L Lost User

          _Maxxx_ wrote:

          In a windowed working environment, one thing that, i think, slows me down a bit, is mouse accuracy.
           
          When I am clicking on, say, the Big X to close a window, in Windows - or the equivalent in any other OS, the X is small, my screen is large - so my mouse has to move a long way, then slow and stop accurately on the X.
           
          So how about this for an idea?
           
          Allow buttons (such as the X) to have a 'depth' and, possibly, a radius. Give the mouse pointer a property (call it 'weight')

          I think you're just too old to use a computer any more, hand it ovet to your son who has the physical coordination to use it.

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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          You're a cruel and heartless man, Mr. Martin. However, I should point out that we live in an aging population, so the inventor of technology to aid the elderly computer user is likely to be the winner in the long run.

          MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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          • L Lost User

            My idea was a generic one with a specific example.

            MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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            Steve Echols
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            Yeah, and I think it's a good idea. I was just implying the keyboard is more precise and already implemented. I would call your feature "gravity". The only problem I see is that moving your mouse around the screen would be like trying to avoid black holes (or those sites that popup ads on keywords - I call them "Ad Mines"). Anyway, go for it!


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            • P Peter_in_2780

              You've just reminded me of a piece of what we would probably now consider malware, but back then it was a load of fun to inflict on noobs. In the age of dinosaurs and Win95 (or maybe even 3.1?) there was a program that would intermittently pop up a kitten on screen and change the mouse cursor to an animated mouse. The kitten would then chase the mouse as you moved it. When it got bored (coffee break or think time) it would make the mouse cursor move just so the cat had something to chase. Listening in on the helpdesk was fun when a victim called and the helpdesk erk hadn't seen it. Cheers, Peter

              Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994.

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              You're thinking of Neko[^] right? We had it on one of the family computers when I was a kid. It originally appeared on the NEC PC-9801[^] in the 80's and was ported to Mac and then Windows.

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              • L Lost User

                In a windowed working environment, one thing that, i think, slows me down a bit, is mouse accuracy. When I am clicking on, say, the Big X to close a window, in Windows - or the equivalent in any other OS, the X is small, my screen is large - so my mouse has to move a long way, then slow and stop accurately on the X. So how about this for an idea? Allow buttons (such as the X) to have a 'depth' and, possibly, a radius. Give the mouse pointer a property (call it 'weight') So, when the mouse pointer approaches the X, at distance Radius it starts to 'roll towards' the center of the X. Gently at first (so, a gravity-like effect, if you will). And once the mouse is within the radius, it would take more 'effort' to move it out. I reckon, with a bit of effort, it would be completely and utterly awesome. Which means someone has probably already done it! What do you think? Genius or Fool? And, now I've mentioned it publicly, does that mean I can't patent it?

                MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                Quickest way to use action buttons like that? Alt+F4, Alt+Space/N and so on. And whatever the Mac/Linux equivalents are.

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                • L Lost User

                  In a windowed working environment, one thing that, i think, slows me down a bit, is mouse accuracy. When I am clicking on, say, the Big X to close a window, in Windows - or the equivalent in any other OS, the X is small, my screen is large - so my mouse has to move a long way, then slow and stop accurately on the X. So how about this for an idea? Allow buttons (such as the X) to have a 'depth' and, possibly, a radius. Give the mouse pointer a property (call it 'weight') So, when the mouse pointer approaches the X, at distance Radius it starts to 'roll towards' the center of the X. Gently at first (so, a gravity-like effect, if you will). And once the mouse is within the radius, it would take more 'effort' to move it out. I reckon, with a bit of effort, it would be completely and utterly awesome. Which means someone has probably already done it! What do you think? Genius or Fool? And, now I've mentioned it publicly, does that mean I can't patent it?

                  MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                  Sticky Snap-to-Center Controls[^]

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                  • L Lost User

                    You're a cruel and heartless man, Mr. Martin. However, I should point out that we live in an aging population, so the inventor of technology to aid the elderly computer user is likely to be the winner in the long run.

                    MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                    _Maxxx_ wrote:

                    You're a cruel and heartless man, Mr. Martin. However, I should point out that we live in an aging population, so the inventor of technology to aid the elderly computer user is likely to be the winner in the long run.

                    Yes, but I have plans to fix this in about 17 months time, when I neck Julia and smash any other Labor leader wannabe. Once I become Supremem Lifetime Leader of Australia, I'll fix this old people problem right prompt.

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                    • B BobJanova

                      Quickest way to use action buttons like that? Alt+F4, Alt+Space/N and so on. And whatever the Mac/Linux equivalents are.

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                      AS I REPLIED TO SOMEONE ELSE - THIS WAS A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE TO ILLUSTRATE A GENERIC IDEA I'm not asking how to do something, I'm making a suggestion of how something could be implemented. Many (and I would say probably the majority by a long way) users use the mouse despite there being shortcuts - and many programs have buttons, icons, sliders etc.etc. that don't have short cuts - so it was an idea to implement something in the OS to help.

                      MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                        Sticky Snap-to-Center Controls[^]

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                        Yep - thanks - I'd seen that. I know it's relatively easy to program something - I was just suggestion it might be good to actually implement it into the OS

                        MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                        • L Lost User

                          _Maxxx_ wrote:

                          You're a cruel and heartless man, Mr. Martin. However, I should point out that we live in an aging population, so the inventor of technology to aid the elderly computer user is likely to be the winner in the long run.

                          Yes, but I have plans to fix this in about 17 months time, when I neck Julia and smash any other Labor leader wannabe. Once I become Supremem Lifetime Leader of Australia, I'll fix this old people problem right prompt.

                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                          Michael Martin wrote:

                          I neck Julia

                          eww :omg:

                          Michael Martin wrote:

                          I'll fix this old people problem right prompt.

                          Cool - so you're going to write the OS front end I was talking about :) Ohh.. wait - I think I see what you mean. elephanting hell - erm, I'm actually quite youthful, you know. Not as old as I look. Honest.

                          MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                          • L Lost User

                            In a windowed working environment, one thing that, i think, slows me down a bit, is mouse accuracy. When I am clicking on, say, the Big X to close a window, in Windows - or the equivalent in any other OS, the X is small, my screen is large - so my mouse has to move a long way, then slow and stop accurately on the X. So how about this for an idea? Allow buttons (such as the X) to have a 'depth' and, possibly, a radius. Give the mouse pointer a property (call it 'weight') So, when the mouse pointer approaches the X, at distance Radius it starts to 'roll towards' the center of the X. Gently at first (so, a gravity-like effect, if you will). And once the mouse is within the radius, it would take more 'effort' to move it out. I reckon, with a bit of effort, it would be completely and utterly awesome. Which means someone has probably already done it! What do you think? Genius or Fool? And, now I've mentioned it publicly, does that mean I can't patent it?

                            MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                            Jeremy Hutchinson
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                            Patent it! You're going to be rich.

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