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  • L Lost User

    Rant Mode: ON Here are some internet SINS that should be sufficient cause to send certain developers straight to HELL. 1: If you run a news site that requires a person to sign into Facebook in order to comment on the news item then you can go to HELL. I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one - despite your best attempts to force me into having one. Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks. 2: If you put a video up on a news site the video had best not start out with a 30 second ad (or any ad) or you can go straight to HELL. I no longer watch NBC videos, and ignore NBC content of any sort because they lace it all with ads. MSN sucks for the same reason. They'll post 10 great videos but you spend most of your time watching ads. Hello, that's why I quit watching TV. There was a point in time when the internet was about convenience and information and now it's all ads. I HATE people who keep pushing their stuff in my face and they deserve eternal punishmnet for it. I'm actually getting to the point where I use the internet less and less because marketing is chewing up 90% of my bandwidth with stuff I don't want or need. Leave it to these guys to stomp out the internets. Rant Mode: OFF

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    Clifford Nelson
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    Ads before a video is one of the reasons I prefer articles. You do not have to wait to start reading, and can also skim past the crude. The ads do give us content that would not be available either. However, when you start paying and still get the ads, like on cable/satellite TV, thats going too far.

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    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

      Most of the time I find myself searching for my keys and glasses.  Unfortunately Google rarely helps in these cases. :)

      Install Google desktop search, and type the location of your keys and glasses in a text file that will be indexed by it. Update the file every time you move the keys and/or glasses. Now, Google can find your keys and glasses. Easy peasy. :)

      "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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      I see patent potential here. ;P /ravi

      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        I see patent potential here. ;P /ravi

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        or just attach a small GPS tracker to them :)

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        • L Lost User

          Rant Mode: ON Here are some internet SINS that should be sufficient cause to send certain developers straight to HELL. 1: If you run a news site that requires a person to sign into Facebook in order to comment on the news item then you can go to HELL. I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one - despite your best attempts to force me into having one. Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks. 2: If you put a video up on a news site the video had best not start out with a 30 second ad (or any ad) or you can go straight to HELL. I no longer watch NBC videos, and ignore NBC content of any sort because they lace it all with ads. MSN sucks for the same reason. They'll post 10 great videos but you spend most of your time watching ads. Hello, that's why I quit watching TV. There was a point in time when the internet was about convenience and information and now it's all ads. I HATE people who keep pushing their stuff in my face and they deserve eternal punishmnet for it. I'm actually getting to the point where I use the internet less and less because marketing is chewing up 90% of my bandwidth with stuff I don't want or need. Leave it to these guys to stomp out the internets. Rant Mode: OFF

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          I totally agree, and might add to that sites that pop up near-full window-sized ads on top of the actual content, and staying right on top of the content no matter how you resize the window or scroll up or down. Not only that, these are not really dialogues or windows, as I have set my browser to prevent pop-ups or opening new windows, so it must be some flash or other web-programming gadget designed to deliberately annoy people who wish to use the internet in a meaningful way. To add insult to injury, these 'pretender dialogues' do appear to contain some windows-like buttons on the top right, but they're so small they're hard to recognize on a large screen, and clicking on the top right button by reflex (because you expect it to close the window) will just open a new window for that unwanted content in the background! (usually the button for closing the window is the second-right-most one, but you have to look real close to recognize that) If anyone knows a plugin for FireFox to add sites like that to some kind of 'ignore list' and never ever again try to open windows from that site, I would greatly appreciate that. I can understand that 'free' still needs funding, but there's a world of difference between unobtrusive static ads on the sidebar and freaking, flashing, screaming ads pushed right into my face that don't give me an easy way to escape, and bog down loading times to a crawl.

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          • L Lost User

            Rant Mode: ON Here are some internet SINS that should be sufficient cause to send certain developers straight to HELL. 1: If you run a news site that requires a person to sign into Facebook in order to comment on the news item then you can go to HELL. I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one - despite your best attempts to force me into having one. Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks. 2: If you put a video up on a news site the video had best not start out with a 30 second ad (or any ad) or you can go straight to HELL. I no longer watch NBC videos, and ignore NBC content of any sort because they lace it all with ads. MSN sucks for the same reason. They'll post 10 great videos but you spend most of your time watching ads. Hello, that's why I quit watching TV. There was a point in time when the internet was about convenience and information and now it's all ads. I HATE people who keep pushing their stuff in my face and they deserve eternal punishmnet for it. I'm actually getting to the point where I use the internet less and less because marketing is chewing up 90% of my bandwidth with stuff I don't want or need. Leave it to these guys to stomp out the internets. Rant Mode: OFF

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            Alexander DiMauro
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            MehGerbil wrote:

            If you run a news site that requires a person to sign into Facebook in order to comment on the news item then you can go to HELL.

            This is precisely why I didn't sign up for Spotify. The ONLY way to sign up for their service is to use a Facebook sign in. Complete nonsense. :mad:

            The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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            • L Lost User

              My Dropbox account is free. They never send me anything. :laugh:

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              Alexander DiMauro
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              MehGerbil wrote:

              My Dropbox account is free.
              They never send me anything.

              Yes, well, Dropbox has paid versions as well that support the free versions, instead of using advertising. So, those of us paying for larger storage are supporting you. Where is my 'thank you'? ;)

              The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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              • L Lost User

                Rant Mode: ON Here are some internet SINS that should be sufficient cause to send certain developers straight to HELL. 1: If you run a news site that requires a person to sign into Facebook in order to comment on the news item then you can go to HELL. I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one - despite your best attempts to force me into having one. Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks. 2: If you put a video up on a news site the video had best not start out with a 30 second ad (or any ad) or you can go straight to HELL. I no longer watch NBC videos, and ignore NBC content of any sort because they lace it all with ads. MSN sucks for the same reason. They'll post 10 great videos but you spend most of your time watching ads. Hello, that's why I quit watching TV. There was a point in time when the internet was about convenience and information and now it's all ads. I HATE people who keep pushing their stuff in my face and they deserve eternal punishmnet for it. I'm actually getting to the point where I use the internet less and less because marketing is chewing up 90% of my bandwidth with stuff I don't want or need. Leave it to these guys to stomp out the internets. Rant Mode: OFF

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                Jeremy Hutchinson
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                MehGerbil wrote:

                I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one... Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks.

                I always find it interesting how non-Facebook users categorize what other people use Facebook for. It's reminds me of when a child decides he doesn't like a certain food without ever taking a bite.

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                  I totally agree, and might add to that sites that pop up near-full window-sized ads on top of the actual content, and staying right on top of the content no matter how you resize the window or scroll up or down. Not only that, these are not really dialogues or windows, as I have set my browser to prevent pop-ups or opening new windows, so it must be some flash or other web-programming gadget designed to deliberately annoy people who wish to use the internet in a meaningful way. To add insult to injury, these 'pretender dialogues' do appear to contain some windows-like buttons on the top right, but they're so small they're hard to recognize on a large screen, and clicking on the top right button by reflex (because you expect it to close the window) will just open a new window for that unwanted content in the background! (usually the button for closing the window is the second-right-most one, but you have to look real close to recognize that) If anyone knows a plugin for FireFox to add sites like that to some kind of 'ignore list' and never ever again try to open windows from that site, I would greatly appreciate that. I can understand that 'free' still needs funding, but there's a world of difference between unobtrusive static ads on the sidebar and freaking, flashing, screaming ads pushed right into my face that don't give me an easy way to escape, and bog down loading times to a crawl.

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                  Lost User
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                  I've actually spent several minutes at one site trying to figure out how to remove the ad that was preventing me from viewing the content. Eventually I gave up and left. SPECIAL NOTE: To the advertiser that does these things: No, I don't remember the ad and it's a good thing because I'd go out of my way to NOT buy your product and I'd tell my friends to do the same.

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                  • J Jeremy Hutchinson

                    MehGerbil wrote:

                    I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one... Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks.

                    I always find it interesting how non-Facebook users categorize what other people use Facebook for. It's reminds me of when a child decides he doesn't like a certain food without ever taking a bite.

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                    I don't like to: 1: Hear about everyone's day. 2: Be showered with links to funny cat videos. 3: Sort through hundreds of pictures. 4: Share stupid jokes. 5: Get a link to your favorite new song only to get Rick Rolled. It takes all the will power I have to endure a 20 minute visit from the neighbor, or from a relative. Usually after my wife and kids tell me about their day I've had all the dialog I can stand and I want to go hide under the bed. I've yet to see a genuinely funny cat video (1) and I'm 45 so I've heard every joke ever told. Your taste in music sucks and your political opinions are going to destroy Western Civilization (2). So it has nothing to do with Facebook as a technology, but rather, at the end of the day Facebook is just a new way to distribute the same boring crap I've been trying to avoid all of my life. Unless I missed something? NOTES ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) Don't get me started on cat people. 2) That would be the collective 'You' and not 'You' specifically.

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                      I don't like to: 1: Hear about everyone's day. 2: Be showered with links to funny cat videos. 3: Sort through hundreds of pictures. 4: Share stupid jokes. 5: Get a link to your favorite new song only to get Rick Rolled. It takes all the will power I have to endure a 20 minute visit from the neighbor, or from a relative. Usually after my wife and kids tell me about their day I've had all the dialog I can stand and I want to go hide under the bed. I've yet to see a genuinely funny cat video (1) and I'm 45 so I've heard every joke ever told. Your taste in music sucks and your political opinions are going to destroy Western Civilization (2). So it has nothing to do with Facebook as a technology, but rather, at the end of the day Facebook is just a new way to distribute the same boring crap I've been trying to avoid all of my life. Unless I missed something? NOTES ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) Don't get me started on cat people. 2) That would be the collective 'You' and not 'You' specifically.

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                      Jeremy Hutchinson
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                      You're not the type of person who needs or even wants a lot of social interaction. That's fine, and because of that, Facebook is probably not for you, which is also fine. I guess I'm just saying that the fact that Facebook isn't for you isn't the same as saying that Facebook users are "a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage".

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                        Ads before a video is one of the reasons I prefer articles. You do not have to wait to start reading, and can also skim past the crude. The ads do give us content that would not be available either. However, when you start paying and still get the ads, like on cable/satellite TV, thats going too far.

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                        loctrice
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                        Clifford Nelson wrote:

                        However, when you start paying and still get the ads, like on cable/satellite TV, thats going too far.

                        My thoughts exactly. I told hulu when I cancelled my account that I started paying because you could watch a good many shows with very few adds. It was 1 for short video,and two for a long one. The reason I cancelled my account was commercials going up. I saw 5 breaks during an episode of misfits and it was too much. I told them if they come up with a premium service that costs more, but has the origional ad time then I would come back. I could see that as a good logic. Hulu with tons of adds, Hulu plus with the current adds, and Hulu Premium with very few adds. I could even see an Ultimate or something with no adds. They could teir out the pricing. I wouldn't mind paying a decent amount of money for entertainment with no advertising.

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                        • J Jeremy Hutchinson

                          MehGerbil wrote:

                          I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one... Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks.

                          I always find it interesting how non-Facebook users categorize what other people use Facebook for. It's reminds me of when a child decides he doesn't like a certain food without ever taking a bite.

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                          loctrice
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                          I'm in total agreement with them and I'm an EX facebook user. so to counter: I always find it interesting how addicts/users catagorize people who don't agree with them and/or won't share. It reminds me of religion and alcoholics.

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                          • J Jeremy Hutchinson

                            You're not the type of person who needs or even wants a lot of social interaction. That's fine, and because of that, Facebook is probably not for you, which is also fine. I guess I'm just saying that the fact that Facebook isn't for you isn't the same as saying that Facebook users are "a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage".

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                            Jeremy Hutchinson wrote:

                            "a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage".

                            if you consider it from his point of view, it's only the way he chose to word it that you have issue with. However, the way he chose to word it communicates his view pretty well.

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                            • J Jeremy Hutchinson

                              You're not the type of person who needs or even wants a lot of social interaction. That's fine, and because of that, Facebook is probably not for you, which is also fine. I guess I'm just saying that the fact that Facebook isn't for you isn't the same as saying that Facebook users are "a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage".

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                              Lost User
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                              You're still here? (That was a joke.. I'm enjoying getting older because the life of a grumpy old crumudgeon has always seemed like a type of heaven to me. :-D )

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                                You're still here? (That was a joke.. I'm enjoying getting older because the life of a grumpy old crumudgeon has always seemed like a type of heaven to me. :-D )

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                                Jeremy Hutchinson
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                                Just leaving. Sorry to take up so much of your time. ;P

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                                  Rant Mode: ON Here are some internet SINS that should be sufficient cause to send certain developers straight to HELL. 1: If you run a news site that requires a person to sign into Facebook in order to comment on the news item then you can go to HELL. I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one - despite your best attempts to force me into having one. Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks. 2: If you put a video up on a news site the video had best not start out with a 30 second ad (or any ad) or you can go straight to HELL. I no longer watch NBC videos, and ignore NBC content of any sort because they lace it all with ads. MSN sucks for the same reason. They'll post 10 great videos but you spend most of your time watching ads. Hello, that's why I quit watching TV. There was a point in time when the internet was about convenience and information and now it's all ads. I HATE people who keep pushing their stuff in my face and they deserve eternal punishmnet for it. I'm actually getting to the point where I use the internet less and less because marketing is chewing up 90% of my bandwidth with stuff I don't want or need. Leave it to these guys to stomp out the internets. Rant Mode: OFF

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                                  Biggest Internet Sin - is abusing "GOTO" ;-) Every time you see "CLICK LINK (download/information/... you name it ) HERE" - you can be sure IT IS NOT HERE! More offen it will be just a one more step on ladder :-) So, it become not more efficient than old stile library where you jump from one reference to enother before get informatoin :-) Note: there is small but important difference between to be fast and to be efficient...

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                                    loctrice wrote:

                                    I make it a point to NOT buy anything I've seen ad advertisement for.

                                    Make sure you never read a print version of MSDN magazine.  You might see an ad for CodeProject there. :) /ravi

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                                    Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                                    Make sure you never read a print version of MSDN magazine

                                    I don't think I'm in any danger there.

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                                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                      I'm like you I don't hardly watch TV since they lengthened the commercial time to 30%. Used to be if a show you wanted to watch was coming on you did what you needed to do then sit down and watch the whole thing with little interruption now I'm of the age where when a commercial comes on I get up and do other things and by the time it comes back on I forgot what I was watching.

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                                      Mike Hankey wrote:

                                      I'm like you I don't hardly watch TV since they lengthened the commercial
                                      time to 30%.

                                      Based on a timed experiment I did in 1971, commercial time for a 30-minute program could be as high as ten minutes of the total for some programs on some networks. Other experiments later in the 70s established for me that yes, commercial frequency went up and duration went down during the last hour of a two-hour-plus special (it was particularly noticeable during sports games). That is around the time I read The Medium is the Massage by Marshall McLuhan and started getting tuned to how media works, and how it works on you.

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                                        I don't like to: 1: Hear about everyone's day. 2: Be showered with links to funny cat videos. 3: Sort through hundreds of pictures. 4: Share stupid jokes. 5: Get a link to your favorite new song only to get Rick Rolled. It takes all the will power I have to endure a 20 minute visit from the neighbor, or from a relative. Usually after my wife and kids tell me about their day I've had all the dialog I can stand and I want to go hide under the bed. I've yet to see a genuinely funny cat video (1) and I'm 45 so I've heard every joke ever told. Your taste in music sucks and your political opinions are going to destroy Western Civilization (2). So it has nothing to do with Facebook as a technology, but rather, at the end of the day Facebook is just a new way to distribute the same boring crap I've been trying to avoid all of my life. Unless I missed something? NOTES ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) Don't get me started on cat people. 2) That would be the collective 'You' and not 'You' specifically.

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                                        cpkilekofp
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                                        MehGerbil wrote:

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                                        So it has nothing to do with Facebook as a technology, but rather, at the end of the day Facebook is just a new way to distribute the same boring crap I've been trying to avoid all of my life.
                                         
                                        Unless I missed something?

                                        Nope, that would cover it all :laugh:

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                                        • J Jeremy Hutchinson

                                          MehGerbil wrote:

                                          I don't have a Facebook account and I'm never going to have one... Facebook is just a bunch of bored people picking through each other's garbage and it sucks.

                                          I always find it interesting how non-Facebook users categorize what other people use Facebook for. It's reminds me of when a child decides he doesn't like a certain food without ever taking a bite.

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                                          Stefan_Lang
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                                          *shrug* I don't use facebook and have never even been to the site, but whenever I hear colleagues and other people talking about it I get pretty much the same impression of it as the OP. These people may not be representative of the community on facebook, nor may their talk represent accurately what they really use it for, but it seems I'm not the only non-Facebook user who arrived at that impression. My reasons for not joining are that a) I have a strong feeling that it's a big time-sink, and I already have enough ways of wasting my time available as it is b) I've never heard about facebook is that it's ever been used for anything productive. Both may be subjective, but everything I hear confirms their validity. This is not about 'taking one bite', it's about smelling the waste while walking over a dump site. Nobody's going to make me eat what I already smell is rotten.

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