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  • T tchris

    I am about to start my 35th year in IT this summer and my body shows it - i.e. more pounds overweight than I care to admit (BMI is over the ideal 24/25). :omg: Anyway, I keep hearing things about how much better it is to stand than to sit all day. I spend at least 6-7 hours per day sitting. I've even seen some short videos on walking 1.0-1.5 MPH on a treadmill using a "TrekDesk". :cool: Anybody out there using one? If so, how did you justify it to your boss?:confused:

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    Tom Delany
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    You mean like this one? TrekDesk[^]

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      You mean like this one? TrekDesk[^]

      WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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      tchris
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      Seems my boss's desk looks something like that :laugh:

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      • T tchris

        I am about to start my 35th year in IT this summer and my body shows it - i.e. more pounds overweight than I care to admit (BMI is over the ideal 24/25). :omg: Anyway, I keep hearing things about how much better it is to stand than to sit all day. I spend at least 6-7 hours per day sitting. I've even seen some short videos on walking 1.0-1.5 MPH on a treadmill using a "TrekDesk". :cool: Anybody out there using one? If so, how did you justify it to your boss?:confused:

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        tchris
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        Here's one article that started me thinking about a standing desk: Stand Up While You Read This[^]

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        • T Tom Delany

          You mean like this one? TrekDesk[^]

          WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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          Lost User
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          You must be very careful with such a desk. Depending on the era it is from, you must or should not wear a red shirt. :)

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          • T tchris

            I am about to start my 35th year in IT this summer and my body shows it - i.e. more pounds overweight than I care to admit (BMI is over the ideal 24/25). :omg: Anyway, I keep hearing things about how much better it is to stand than to sit all day. I spend at least 6-7 hours per day sitting. I've even seen some short videos on walking 1.0-1.5 MPH on a treadmill using a "TrekDesk". :cool: Anybody out there using one? If so, how did you justify it to your boss?:confused:

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            was8309
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            sorry, no stats on health or productivity, but am in the process of making a cheapy sit/stand for home and trying to get prices from vendors for work.

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            • T tchris

              I am about to start my 35th year in IT this summer and my body shows it - i.e. more pounds overweight than I care to admit (BMI is over the ideal 24/25). :omg: Anyway, I keep hearing things about how much better it is to stand than to sit all day. I spend at least 6-7 hours per day sitting. I've even seen some short videos on walking 1.0-1.5 MPH on a treadmill using a "TrekDesk". :cool: Anybody out there using one? If so, how did you justify it to your boss?:confused:

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              Mel Padden
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              I have one of those jobbies that you can raise up to waist height, and then stand at. Works quite well. I try to use it at least once an hour.

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              • T tchris

                I am about to start my 35th year in IT this summer and my body shows it - i.e. more pounds overweight than I care to admit (BMI is over the ideal 24/25). :omg: Anyway, I keep hearing things about how much better it is to stand than to sit all day. I spend at least 6-7 hours per day sitting. I've even seen some short videos on walking 1.0-1.5 MPH on a treadmill using a "TrekDesk". :cool: Anybody out there using one? If so, how did you justify it to your boss?:confused:

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                Jeremy Hutchinson
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                I experimented with a treadmill desk the past few months. I modified my existing treadmill to have a keyboard/mouse desk at the appropriate height. Then I would rest my laptop in the treadmills existing book holder and that put the screen at about the right at, though a little to far away. At first I really liked it. I was walking about 6 hours a day 2 days a week. Then the flaws started to bother me. The desk part was a little bit wobbly, and if I leaned on it the wrong way it would collapse. I have a 17" monitor on my laptop, but 2x19" monitors at work, that got more and more unbearable over time. What really slowed me down the last few weeks was that I noticed that I can't really learn new things while I'm walking. I can read entertainment, I can think and type, I can even right code where I know what I'm doing (relatively speaking :laugh:). But if I need to puzzle something out, I had to stop. I think if I had my treadmill desk at work it wouldn't be as much of a problem, but the days I've been able to work from home the past few weeks have all been days where I've been puzzling. The result is the treadmill moves along at 1.5mph, and I stand on it's rails, leaning forward, trying to understand how to get something to work the way I want, while trying to collapse my desk. I did really like the treadmill desk on the days I used it, and definitely like the standing desk (and I'm not a huge fan of standing). I definitely noticed some distracting fatigue towards the end of the day, so a sit to stand or even a bar-stool height chair would be great. You post has inspired me to make my desk better, and to find a way to mount dual monitors (or 1 giant monitor) on the treadmill.

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                • T tchris

                  I am about to start my 35th year in IT this summer and my body shows it - i.e. more pounds overweight than I care to admit (BMI is over the ideal 24/25). :omg: Anyway, I keep hearing things about how much better it is to stand than to sit all day. I spend at least 6-7 hours per day sitting. I've even seen some short videos on walking 1.0-1.5 MPH on a treadmill using a "TrekDesk". :cool: Anybody out there using one? If so, how did you justify it to your boss?:confused:

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                  Alexander DiMauro
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                  Well, considering this thing costs $550 WITHOUT the treadmill...you better have a GREAT sales pitch for your boss!

                  The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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                  • T tchris

                    I am about to start my 35th year in IT this summer and my body shows it - i.e. more pounds overweight than I care to admit (BMI is over the ideal 24/25). :omg: Anyway, I keep hearing things about how much better it is to stand than to sit all day. I spend at least 6-7 hours per day sitting. I've even seen some short videos on walking 1.0-1.5 MPH on a treadmill using a "TrekDesk". :cool: Anybody out there using one? If so, how did you justify it to your boss?:confused:

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                    darkroastbeans
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                    I use one at home (I built an elevated stand that sits on top of my normal desk). I get to work from home two days a week -- when I'm at the office I sit though. I would think you could justify a standing desk by citing ergonomic concerns. A lot of companies make an effort to meet the ergonomic needs of their employees. You may even take this up with HR as well. On thing I will say is that a standing desk is no replacement for physical movement. I try to take a walk around our building after lunch every day, and get up frequently to stretch my legs. A standing desk keeps the blood flow unhindered but physical activity keeps circulation high. Good luck!

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                    • S SkysTheLimit

                      All offices in our part of the company have standing desks but most engineers still sit and look at you strangely at first for wanting to stand. Fortunately, there are a lot of health and fitness conscious people in the company and so, while they don't stand themselves, they respect your reasons for doing so. I wish you success in your adventure :)

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                      Isfeasachme
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                      Not that long ago, kneeling chairs were all the rage. My back loved it, but I lost feeling in my shins from the poor design and tired of the strange wrinkling of my pants. Next came sitting on a yoga ball. Again, great for my back, but constantly shifting around and constantly engaging core muscles all day was fatiguing. Rather than waking me up, I found myself leaving my desk more frequently to relax and regain focus. The under desk pedals are useless. Unless the motion is connected somehow to the ability to use your keyboard, there is no impetus to pedal. Also, any sort of precision work while moving is more difficult. Im the sort who paces when he thinks, but cant imagine standing or walking while typing and mousing. I bought a Herman Miller Aeron chair a few months ago. My back is happy, I take breaks to stretch, and I work out elsewhere.

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                      • T tchris

                        I am about to start my 35th year in IT this summer and my body shows it - i.e. more pounds overweight than I care to admit (BMI is over the ideal 24/25). :omg: Anyway, I keep hearing things about how much better it is to stand than to sit all day. I spend at least 6-7 hours per day sitting. I've even seen some short videos on walking 1.0-1.5 MPH on a treadmill using a "TrekDesk". :cool: Anybody out there using one? If so, how did you justify it to your boss?:confused:

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                        I built my own and have been using it for the last 11 months. I love it and would not go back to sitting all day. I also started a trend here, two others are standing all day as well. I will say that the first three or four weeks, you will be dead tired at the end of the day. Building it myself, and fashioning it out of parts from Ikea, kept the price under $180. That really helped me justify it to the CEO. If you want I can get you the parts list with all the funky names, but it was just: Set of legs from a Kitchen Island (tall set, ~43") A desktop 38" X 60" 3 angled shelf brackets A floating shelf (this could be just a nice piece of wood.) The brackets and shelf raise my monitors up another 11" to reduce neck strain. The only thing this setup does not have that I wished it would, is a bar in the front to rest my foot

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                          I built my own and have been using it for the last 11 months. I love it and would not go back to sitting all day. I also started a trend here, two others are standing all day as well. I will say that the first three or four weeks, you will be dead tired at the end of the day. Building it myself, and fashioning it out of parts from Ikea, kept the price under $180. That really helped me justify it to the CEO. If you want I can get you the parts list with all the funky names, but it was just: Set of legs from a Kitchen Island (tall set, ~43") A desktop 38" X 60" 3 angled shelf brackets A floating shelf (this could be just a nice piece of wood.) The brackets and shelf raise my monitors up another 11" to reduce neck strain. The only thing this setup does not have that I wished it would, is a bar in the front to rest my foot

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                          mbielski
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                          I've been planning on building a standing desk myself out of the various wire shelves and poles from an organizing store and I could never get the cost below $200. I'd be curious to see your parts list from Ikea. The bar is a great idea! Wish I'd thought of it! Now that you have, I'll add it to my parts list. Still nowhere near under $200 but isn't that what a tax return is for?

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                            I built my own and have been using it for the last 11 months. I love it and would not go back to sitting all day. I also started a trend here, two others are standing all day as well. I will say that the first three or four weeks, you will be dead tired at the end of the day. Building it myself, and fashioning it out of parts from Ikea, kept the price under $180. That really helped me justify it to the CEO. If you want I can get you the parts list with all the funky names, but it was just: Set of legs from a Kitchen Island (tall set, ~43") A desktop 38" X 60" 3 angled shelf brackets A floating shelf (this could be just a nice piece of wood.) The brackets and shelf raise my monitors up another 11" to reduce neck strain. The only thing this setup does not have that I wished it would, is a bar in the front to rest my foot

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                            I thought about building my own using this design: http://anderlyn-desk.com/index.html[^]

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                              I use one at home (I built an elevated stand that sits on top of my normal desk). I get to work from home two days a week -- when I'm at the office I sit though. I would think you could justify a standing desk by citing ergonomic concerns. A lot of companies make an effort to meet the ergonomic needs of their employees. You may even take this up with HR as well. On thing I will say is that a standing desk is no replacement for physical movement. I try to take a walk around our building after lunch every day, and get up frequently to stretch my legs. A standing desk keeps the blood flow unhindered but physical activity keeps circulation high. Good luck!

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                              tchris
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                              Thanks for the encouragement. I may do this even if I don't get financial support from my company! ;P

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                              • T tchris

                                Thanks for the encouragement. I may do this even if I don't get financial support from my company! ;P

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                                darkroastbeans
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                                Glad to help. BTW, this is what my desk looks like now if you want some ideas.

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                                • A Alexander DiMauro

                                  Well, considering this thing costs $550 WITHOUT the treadmill...you better have a GREAT sales pitch for your boss!

                                  The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.

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                                  tchris
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                                  Haha :-D That's why I'm looking for anyone with justification to back it up if it really works :sigh:

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                                  • T tchris

                                    I am about to start my 35th year in IT this summer and my body shows it - i.e. more pounds overweight than I care to admit (BMI is over the ideal 24/25). :omg: Anyway, I keep hearing things about how much better it is to stand than to sit all day. I spend at least 6-7 hours per day sitting. I've even seen some short videos on walking 1.0-1.5 MPH on a treadmill using a "TrekDesk". :cool: Anybody out there using one? If so, how did you justify it to your boss?:confused:

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                                    Standing desk are starting to show signs where they can be bad for your knees, often people don't stand properly, so that creates problems, also most people have mal-aligned backs from decades of chair riding, so that doesn't help either. The first few weeks are also hell. Sorta like the first time you started working retail as a kid if you ever did, legs ack and you hurt, but burn through the pain for a week or so and it's second nature and you burn about 2-3x the calories just standing over sitting. For the treadmill desks they are better for your knees as they create motion, and that prevents compression and fluid build up around the knees. I have tried both, mostly at another company on a test run to say. It takes a bit of time to get use to typing and using a mouse while your body is moving but you get use to it. You will burn quite a lot of calories as well. If you trim your intake some you can get fit in a hurry. Problem is if you get one everyone else wants one cause it's cool. 90% will try it and hate it, so see if you can talk them into getting one and then putting it up as a "trial" / demo location. Let people test it out. But.... depends on where you work, most aren't designed for large bodied people, most aren't designed for the guy wanting to sprint walk against the motor, etc. So there is some learning on how to properly use the thing, without messing it up.

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                                      Standing desk are starting to show signs where they can be bad for your knees, often people don't stand properly, so that creates problems, also most people have mal-aligned backs from decades of chair riding, so that doesn't help either. The first few weeks are also hell. Sorta like the first time you started working retail as a kid if you ever did, legs ack and you hurt, but burn through the pain for a week or so and it's second nature and you burn about 2-3x the calories just standing over sitting. For the treadmill desks they are better for your knees as they create motion, and that prevents compression and fluid build up around the knees. I have tried both, mostly at another company on a test run to say. It takes a bit of time to get use to typing and using a mouse while your body is moving but you get use to it. You will burn quite a lot of calories as well. If you trim your intake some you can get fit in a hurry. Problem is if you get one everyone else wants one cause it's cool. 90% will try it and hate it, so see if you can talk them into getting one and then putting it up as a "trial" / demo location. Let people test it out. But.... depends on where you work, most aren't designed for large bodied people, most aren't designed for the guy wanting to sprint walk against the motor, etc. So there is some learning on how to properly use the thing, without messing it up.

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                                      tchris
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                                      So how long did you stand before you went to the treadmill? :java:

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                                      • M mbielski

                                        I've been planning on building a standing desk myself out of the various wire shelves and poles from an organizing store and I could never get the cost below $200. I'd be curious to see your parts list from Ikea. The bar is a great idea! Wish I'd thought of it! Now that you have, I'll add it to my parts list. Still nowhere near under $200 but isn't that what a tax return is for?

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                                        UTBY frame - http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10117561/#/90117562 Galant Table top - http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S89821547/ Broder Shelf - http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90154314/ Capita brackets - http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40051196/ On the Utby frame, make sure you get the taller one. It is the 41 3/8" one. The table top could be anyone you choose that is bigger than the 48" X 24" The Capita brackets are nice angled brackets that you will need to drill a hole through the table top to mount, but they look really sharp. I would suggest that you mount them so they angle towards the back of the desk. On mine, I angled them forward and the shelf is not as stable as the second desk I built for a coworker whose brackets I angled back.

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                                          UTBY frame - http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10117561/#/90117562 Galant Table top - http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S89821547/ Broder Shelf - http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90154314/ Capita brackets - http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40051196/ On the Utby frame, make sure you get the taller one. It is the 41 3/8" one. The table top could be anyone you choose that is bigger than the 48" X 24" The Capita brackets are nice angled brackets that you will need to drill a hole through the table top to mount, but they look really sharp. I would suggest that you mount them so they angle towards the back of the desk. On mine, I angled them forward and the shelf is not as stable as the second desk I built for a coworker whose brackets I angled back.

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                                          mbielski
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                                          Very cool, thank you! IF I ever manage to get one build, be it Ikea or wire shelf, I'll post the methods and parts list.

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