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  • P Pete OHanlon

    ahmed zahmed wrote:

    such as the late, great Richard Dawkins.

    Unless I missed something, he's still alive. Are you thinking of Christopher Hitchens by any chance?

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    Wishful thinking on the part of OP?


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      mark merrens wrote:

      told the last one I was a satanist

      Silly Mark. As a Christian I am an evangelist. It is a very basic trait in truly believing in something, anything. You go out and tell the world. However, you are not being accosted by evangelist, but by Evangelical Christians. At their extreme, they believe in the literal word of the Gospel. Me, I still kind of like Leviticus and Deuteronomy as they provide counter points to a lot of the hippy shit some skim readers find in the Gospel. Now should you find yourself being accosted by Evangelicals, don't try to fight them with the Satanist route as some of the better ones are practised in arguing against it. Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done. FYI, I am not Catholic, Mrs Wife and the Ickles are, but the Militant Wing of the URC. It's a bit like the Salvation Army Marine Corp. :-D


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      Keith Barrow
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      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

      Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.",

      This is a tactic a catholic friend of mine told me. It never fails. 5'd the marine corps bit!

      Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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      • K Keith Barrow

        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

        Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.",

        This is a tactic a catholic friend of mine told me. It never fails. 5'd the marine corps bit!

        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
        -Or-
        A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        One of my cousins used it. He's Essex born and bread but grew up in a very Irish household; his parents never lost their Ulster accents even after 40+ years. After a few bears Stu's accent 'goes North' and you'd beleive he's just of the boat from Norn Iron. We were in a bar in Covent Garden quenching our thirst and some numpties were trying to provoke us with Irish taunts. Now Stu is no wee lad and he wears what hair he has very short. He approached the numpties and warned them he was in the Militant Wing of the URC. After they withdrew he informed the shocked looking bar man that they're like the Sally Annie Marines. :laugh: I still use it occasionally because it's elephanting funny.


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          mark merrens wrote:

          told the last one I was a satanist

          Silly Mark. As a Christian I am an evangelist. It is a very basic trait in truly believing in something, anything. You go out and tell the world. However, you are not being accosted by evangelist, but by Evangelical Christians. At their extreme, they believe in the literal word of the Gospel. Me, I still kind of like Leviticus and Deuteronomy as they provide counter points to a lot of the hippy shit some skim readers find in the Gospel. Now should you find yourself being accosted by Evangelicals, don't try to fight them with the Satanist route as some of the better ones are practised in arguing against it. Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done. FYI, I am not Catholic, Mrs Wife and the Ickles are, but the Militant Wing of the URC. It's a bit like the Salvation Army Marine Corp. :-D


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done

          I've used that one on the JoJos when they came knocking on the door at lunchtime on Christmas Day. You'd have thought I said I was the Antichrist.

          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            You went to skool? Who knew?


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            Pete OHanlon
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            I didn't say that I paid attention.

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              Which reminds of a vampire film where one of the characters uses a Star of David to protect himself. Found it: Love at first bite[^]

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              And the inverse in Polanski's Fearless Vampire Killers in which someone tries to ward off a vampire who isn't thwarted: “That doesn't bother me, I'm Jewish.” ...

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done

                I've used that one on the JoJos when they came knocking on the door at lunchtime on Christmas Day. You'd have thought I said I was the Antichrist.

                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                Witnesses get special treatment. You invite them in and offer them some wine. Total affront and rage should follow when they turn it down; which they will due to the alcohol. "Jesus Christ the Son of Gods did not offer an option or a choice! He DEMANDED that his disciples took the wine. If you turn down the wine then YOU ARE DENOUNCING CHRIST! IN THE NAME OF GOD, HOW CAN YOU DENY HIS ONE AND ONLY SON WHO'S LIFE WAS GIVEN UP TO SAVE US ALL!! GET THEE AWAY SON OF SATAN!!!!" Works every time. Oh and don't forget Deuteronomy and Leviticus for the enjoyment of taking a Scottish slave.


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  Witnesses get special treatment. You invite them in and offer them some wine. Total affront and rage should follow when they turn it down; which they will due to the alcohol. "Jesus Christ the Son of Gods did not offer an option or a choice! He DEMANDED that his disciples took the wine. If you turn down the wine then YOU ARE DENOUNCING CHRIST! IN THE NAME OF GOD, HOW CAN YOU DENY HIS ONE AND ONLY SON WHO'S LIFE WAS GIVEN UP TO SAVE US ALL!! GET THEE AWAY SON OF SATAN!!!!" Works every time. Oh and don't forget Deuteronomy and Leviticus for the enjoyment of taking a Scottish slave.


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  You are still on that slave thing? Don't you have anything new yet?

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  • Z ZurdoDev

                    You are still on that slave thing? Don't you have anything new yet?

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    It's a great book:

                    Leviticus 21:9:

                    And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.

                    Katy Perry should be nervous.


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      It's a great book:

                      Leviticus 21:9:

                      And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.

                      Katy Perry should be nervous.


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                      ZurdoDev
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                      If only we could enforce the same laws today. There would be no Hollywood.

                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        Wishful thinking on the part of OP?


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        Absolutely not. Don't wish any harm to anyone. Actually kinda sad Christopher Hitchens is not around. I liked reading what he had to say, very logical, if sometimes a bit extreme. He was very passionate. I wish I had known him personally. Anyway, just a mistyping/misremembering. Probably alzheimers or something -- I hope not though. :~ X| LOL.

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                        • L loctrice

                          ahmed zahmed wrote:

                          does nothing for or against anyone

                          Except for wars, murder, political influence, etc. I'm not saying just christianity either, though it's had a good long run through history in those areas.

                          If it moves, compile it

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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          I was speaking about the harmlessness in this very instance of what the so-called "atheists" were doing, as mark's reply to me was about being offended by what the atheists were doing. But, yeah, if you look at the history of most any religion, especially traditional "Christianity" or "Islam", etc, then yeah there's a lot of ungodly crap. As well as in a lot of human history.

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                          • L Lost User

                            Publicity. That's what it does. It seems to have worked, and you helped them ;)

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            LOL. Unfortunately, you may be right. Even bad publicity sometimes is "good".

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                              If only we could enforce the same laws today. There would be no Hollywood.

                              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                              fjdiewornncalwe
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                              ryanb31 wrote:

                              If only we could enforce the same laws today. There would be no Hollywood.

                              If those laws were all enforced, there would be virtually nobody left anywhere. :)

                              I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                Atheists use ‘unholy water’ to ‘unbless’ Florida highway[^] Since atheists don't believe in God or the Divine nor in the Holy or in Blessings, how can they believe in anything "unholy" or in "unblessing"? If you are "undoing" something doesn't that mean you give credence to the "doing" of a thing? Just a thought. I don't really care one way or the other. Just seems contradictory and hypocritical to me for an atheist to "undo" anything that a religionist "does".

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                                wizardzz
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                                Is all satire hypocritical then? Are people that are being sarcastic lying?

                                "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

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                                • F fjdiewornncalwe

                                  ryanb31 wrote:

                                  If only we could enforce the same laws today. There would be no Hollywood.

                                  If those laws were all enforced, there would be virtually nobody left anywhere. :)

                                  I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                  Sometimes, I could go for that.

                                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                  • F fjdiewornncalwe

                                    ryanb31 wrote:

                                    If only we could enforce the same laws today. There would be no Hollywood.

                                    If those laws were all enforced, there would be virtually nobody left anywhere. :)

                                    I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                                    Nagy Vilmos
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                                    My parents aren't priests so I'd be clear. However there are a few Levitican Laws that are slightly dodgy.


                                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      mark merrens wrote:

                                      told the last one I was a satanist

                                      Silly Mark. As a Christian I am an evangelist. It is a very basic trait in truly believing in something, anything. You go out and tell the world. However, you are not being accosted by evangelist, but by Evangelical Christians. At their extreme, they believe in the literal word of the Gospel. Me, I still kind of like Leviticus and Deuteronomy as they provide counter points to a lot of the hippy shit some skim readers find in the Gospel. Now should you find yourself being accosted by Evangelicals, don't try to fight them with the Satanist route as some of the better ones are practised in arguing against it. Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done. FYI, I am not Catholic, Mrs Wife and the Ickles are, but the Militant Wing of the URC. It's a bit like the Salvation Army Marine Corp. :-D


                                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                                      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                      Silly Mark.

                                      You been speaking to my wife again???

                                      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                      As a Christian I am an evangelist

                                      That's your cross to bear.

                                      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                      It is a very basic trait in truly believing in something, anything. You go out and tell the world.

                                      Nonsense: show some self control: I have no interest in your personal insanity. And evangelism is not the norm, by any means: there are plenty of religions that do not evangelize and actually proscribe against the practice.

                                      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                      Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done.

                                      Hmm: interesting tip. Ta.

                                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                        Silly Mark.

                                        You been speaking to my wife again???

                                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                        As a Christian I am an evangelist

                                        That's your cross to bear.

                                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                        It is a very basic trait in truly believing in something, anything. You go out and tell the world.

                                        Nonsense: show some self control: I have no interest in your personal insanity. And evangelism is not the norm, by any means: there are plenty of religions that do not evangelize and actually proscribe against the practice.

                                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                        Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done.

                                        Hmm: interesting tip. Ta.

                                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                        mark merrens wrote:

                                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                        As a Christian I am an evangelist

                                        That's your cross to bear.

                                        It is no burden, I assure you. You should note that I don't actively go out trying to convert, that's not what I am talking about. There's a rather important point in The Passion when Jesus says that Peter will deny him three times. When times were easy, Peter was an ardent supporter, but as soon as things got a little iffy, he took the well trodden road of "Me? No, never met the guy." to defend himself. Not denying my belief is what I am talking about, even if it would be easier. Put yourself in a room full of fanbois. Now do you decide to support the Apple ideal or maintain an aloof superiority to the poor deluded fools? If it was the other way round, a fanboi surrounded by MS fans, he'd still try to convince us that his view is the right view. That my friend is evangelising. As for religions that discourage it, I'd be surprised. All of the Abrahamic religions prescribe the open praise of God and defence of His teaching. That covers more than half the world's population. The major Indian faiths, another billion people, are very strong on making sure their beliefs are known and openly display their beliefs with pride. I won't try to convert you, but I will pray for you. ;P


                                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                          Silly Mark.

                                          You been speaking to my wife again???

                                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                          As a Christian I am an evangelist

                                          That's your cross to bear.

                                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                          It is a very basic trait in truly believing in something, anything. You go out and tell the world.

                                          Nonsense: show some self control: I have no interest in your personal insanity. And evangelism is not the norm, by any means: there are plenty of religions that do not evangelize and actually proscribe against the practice.

                                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                          Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done.

                                          Hmm: interesting tip. Ta.

                                          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                          Pete OHanlon
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                                          mark merrens wrote:

                                          Nonsense: show some self control: I have no interest in your personal insanity.

                                          You have no interest in Nagy's belief, but you're more than happy to preach at him about your persuasion? Just because you don't believe doesn't mean that you should denigrate him for believing - that's taking an argument and making it a personal attack.

                                          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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