This is just silly and seems hypocritical
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It's a great book:
Leviticus 21:9:
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.
Katy Perry should be nervous.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Wishful thinking on the part of OP?
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Absolutely not. Don't wish any harm to anyone. Actually kinda sad Christopher Hitchens is not around. I liked reading what he had to say, very logical, if sometimes a bit extreme. He was very passionate. I wish I had known him personally. Anyway, just a mistyping/misremembering. Probably alzheimers or something -- I hope not though. :~ X| LOL.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
does nothing for or against anyone
Except for wars, murder, political influence, etc. I'm not saying just christianity either, though it's had a good long run through history in those areas.
If it moves, compile it
I was speaking about the harmlessness in this very instance of what the so-called "atheists" were doing, as mark's reply to me was about being offended by what the atheists were doing. But, yeah, if you look at the history of most any religion, especially traditional "Christianity" or "Islam", etc, then yeah there's a lot of ungodly crap. As well as in a lot of human history.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
LOL. Unfortunately, you may be right. Even bad publicity sometimes is "good".
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
If only we could enforce the same laws today. There would be no Hollywood.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
ryanb31 wrote:
If only we could enforce the same laws today. There would be no Hollywood.
If those laws were all enforced, there would be virtually nobody left anywhere. :)
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Atheists use ‘unholy water’ to ‘unbless’ Florida highway[^] Since atheists don't believe in God or the Divine nor in the Holy or in Blessings, how can they believe in anything "unholy" or in "unblessing"? If you are "undoing" something doesn't that mean you give credence to the "doing" of a thing? Just a thought. I don't really care one way or the other. Just seems contradictory and hypocritical to me for an atheist to "undo" anything that a religionist "does".
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
ryanb31 wrote:
If only we could enforce the same laws today. There would be no Hollywood.
If those laws were all enforced, there would be virtually nobody left anywhere. :)
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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ryanb31 wrote:
If only we could enforce the same laws today. There would be no Hollywood.
If those laws were all enforced, there would be virtually nobody left anywhere. :)
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
My parents aren't priests so I'd be clear. However there are a few Levitican Laws that are slightly dodgy.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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mark merrens wrote:
told the last one I was a satanist
Silly Mark. As a Christian I am an evangelist. It is a very basic trait in truly believing in something, anything. You go out and tell the world. However, you are not being accosted by evangelist, but by Evangelical Christians. At their extreme, they believe in the literal word of the Gospel. Me, I still kind of like Leviticus and Deuteronomy as they provide counter points to a lot of the hippy shit some skim readers find in the Gospel. Now should you find yourself being accosted by Evangelicals, don't try to fight them with the Satanist route as some of the better ones are practised in arguing against it. Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done. FYI, I am not Catholic, Mrs Wife and the Ickles are, but the Militant Wing of the URC. It's a bit like the Salvation Army Marine Corp. :-D
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Silly Mark.
You been speaking to my wife again???
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
As a Christian I am an evangelist
That's your cross to bear.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
It is a very basic trait in truly believing in something, anything. You go out and tell the world.
Nonsense: show some self control: I have no interest in your personal insanity. And evangelism is not the norm, by any means: there are plenty of religions that do not evangelize and actually proscribe against the practice.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done.
Hmm: interesting tip. Ta.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Silly Mark.
You been speaking to my wife again???
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
As a Christian I am an evangelist
That's your cross to bear.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
It is a very basic trait in truly believing in something, anything. You go out and tell the world.
Nonsense: show some self control: I have no interest in your personal insanity. And evangelism is not the norm, by any means: there are plenty of religions that do not evangelize and actually proscribe against the practice.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done.
Hmm: interesting tip. Ta.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
As a Christian I am an evangelist
That's your cross to bear.
It is no burden, I assure you. You should note that I don't actively go out trying to convert, that's not what I am talking about. There's a rather important point in The Passion when Jesus says that Peter will deny him three times. When times were easy, Peter was an ardent supporter, but as soon as things got a little iffy, he took the well trodden road of "Me? No, never met the guy." to defend himself. Not denying my belief is what I am talking about, even if it would be easier. Put yourself in a room full of fanbois. Now do you decide to support the Apple ideal or maintain an aloof superiority to the poor deluded fools? If it was the other way round, a fanboi surrounded by MS fans, he'd still try to convince us that his view is the right view. That my friend is evangelising. As for religions that discourage it, I'd be surprised. All of the Abrahamic religions prescribe the open praise of God and defence of His teaching. That covers more than half the world's population. The major Indian faiths, another billion people, are very strong on making sure their beliefs are known and openly display their beliefs with pride. I won't try to convert you, but I will pray for you. ;P
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Silly Mark.
You been speaking to my wife again???
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
As a Christian I am an evangelist
That's your cross to bear.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
It is a very basic trait in truly believing in something, anything. You go out and tell the world.
Nonsense: show some self control: I have no interest in your personal insanity. And evangelism is not the norm, by any means: there are plenty of religions that do not evangelize and actually proscribe against the practice.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Just say "Sorry, I'm a Catholic.", job done.
Hmm: interesting tip. Ta.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
Nonsense: show some self control: I have no interest in your personal insanity.
You have no interest in Nagy's belief, but you're more than happy to preach at him about your persuasion? Just because you don't believe doesn't mean that you should denigrate him for believing - that's taking an argument and making it a personal attack.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
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Evangelists - piss me off big time. Leave me alone, I do not want to join your church or study your silly book so do not accost me in the street (happened 3 times yesterday - told the last one I was a satanist - the look on his face was priceless). That's what I meant: keep your beliefs to yourself.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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mark merrens wrote:
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
As a Christian I am an evangelist
That's your cross to bear.
It is no burden, I assure you. You should note that I don't actively go out trying to convert, that's not what I am talking about. There's a rather important point in The Passion when Jesus says that Peter will deny him three times. When times were easy, Peter was an ardent supporter, but as soon as things got a little iffy, he took the well trodden road of "Me? No, never met the guy." to defend himself. Not denying my belief is what I am talking about, even if it would be easier. Put yourself in a room full of fanbois. Now do you decide to support the Apple ideal or maintain an aloof superiority to the poor deluded fools? If it was the other way round, a fanboi surrounded by MS fans, he'd still try to convince us that his view is the right view. That my friend is evangelising. As for religions that discourage it, I'd be surprised. All of the Abrahamic religions prescribe the open praise of God and defence of His teaching. That covers more than half the world's population. The major Indian faiths, another billion people, are very strong on making sure their beliefs are known and openly display their beliefs with pride. I won't try to convert you, but I will pray for you. ;P
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Put yourself in a room full of fanbois. Now do you decide to support the Apple ideal or maintain an aloof superiority to the poor deluded fools? If it was the other way round, a fanboi surrounded by MS fans, he'd still try to convince us that his view is the right view. That my friend is evangelising.
There is a universe of difference between a tangible object and a fantasy object!
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
As for religions that discourage it, I'd be surprised
Judaism for one: we neither seek nor accept converts (the last isn't true any more but there is a great deal of rigor applied to someone that does choose to convert). You really have to be born Jewish and it comes through the mother, not the father. If you have a Jewish father and non-Jewish mother then you ain't Jewish.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
I won't try to convert you, but I will pray for you.
Please don't waste your time on my account.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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3 times in one day? You must have a desperate look, like "Help, I need to be saved!" Or, maybe you need to stop and listen. :)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
I have a kindly face: I'm always the one that gets stopped: people think I'm interested because I smile and look them in the eye. Well, fock em, from now on it's the grinch! Actually, I think one was a scientologist: scum of the earth.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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mark merrens wrote:
Nonsense: show some self control: I have no interest in your personal insanity.
You have no interest in Nagy's belief, but you're more than happy to preach at him about your persuasion? Just because you don't believe doesn't mean that you should denigrate him for believing - that's taking an argument and making it a personal attack.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
You have no interest in Nagy's belief, but you're more than happy to preach at him about your persuasion?
I don't recall preaching. Pretty sure I didn't.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Put yourself in a room full of fanbois. Now do you decide to support the Apple ideal or maintain an aloof superiority to the poor deluded fools? If it was the other way round, a fanboi surrounded by MS fans, he'd still try to convince us that his view is the right view. That my friend is evangelising.
There is a universe of difference between a tangible object and a fantasy object!
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
As for religions that discourage it, I'd be surprised
Judaism for one: we neither seek nor accept converts (the last isn't true any more but there is a great deal of rigor applied to someone that does choose to convert). You really have to be born Jewish and it comes through the mother, not the father. If you have a Jewish father and non-Jewish mother then you ain't Jewish.
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
I won't try to convert you, but I will pray for you.
Please don't waste your time on my account.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
If you have a Jewish father and non-Jewish mother then you ain't Jewish.
That would have been a great consolation to my (half) great aunts had Germany invaded the UK. :)
Use carrots and sticks to force the little fish into the big tent - Anon
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Is all satire hypocritical then? Are people that are being sarcastic lying?
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
This wasn't satire. It was mocking.
wizardzz wrote:
Are people that are being sarcastic lying?
Sometimes, absolutely. Satire often uses gross misrepresentations in a bumbling attempt to make a point. Such intentional misrepresentations are certainly lying.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
I have a kindly face: I'm always the one that gets stopped: people think I'm interested because I smile and look them in the eye. Well, fock em, from now on it's the grinch! Actually, I think one was a scientologist: scum of the earth.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
I'm always the one that gets stopped
Same here. I used to be polite, but now I am not - much to my wife's embarrassment. I can also recommend the "This is a Catholic family" ploy. It is amazingly effective with door-steppers.
Use carrots and sticks to force the little fish into the big tent - Anon
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This wasn't satire. It was mocking.
wizardzz wrote:
Are people that are being sarcastic lying?
Sometimes, absolutely. Satire often uses gross misrepresentations in a bumbling attempt to make a point. Such intentional misrepresentations are certainly lying.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunI don't view it as mockery. It may not be good natured satire, but it is making a joke out of what the religious groups had done by essentially doing the exact same thing as them, only without any god based religious meaning. It shouldn't bother the religious groups, since there is no god given power given to the aethiests, but it does bother them because they might actually be seeing how silly they look to us.
"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
You have no interest in Nagy's belief, but you're more than happy to preach at him about your persuasion?
I don't recall preaching. Pretty sure I didn't.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
I don't recall preaching.
mark merrens wrote:
I have no interest in your personal insanity./blockquote> Just saying. :-D
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett