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    Dr Walt Fair PE
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    Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

    CQ de W5ALT

    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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      Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

      CQ de W5ALT

      Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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      Brisingr Aerowing
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      I have noticed the freezing as well. Although my installation freezes for approx. 2-3 min, and often crashes with unhelpful error messages (e.g. "Oops!" and a rather funny "The end usr should not c this. If they do, SUMEONE WILLLL DIT!!!") Misspellings were in the error message!

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        Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

        CQ de W5ALT

        Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        I had no compunction going to chrome recently as the stability of FF was too irritating. Having said that I have to use IE in the office and saw similar problems with it for a while but I blame my net nazi for most of them.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          I have noticed the freezing as well. Although my installation freezes for approx. 2-3 min, and often crashes with unhelpful error messages (e.g. "Oops!" and a rather funny "The end usr should not c this. If they do, SUMEONE WILLLL DIT!!!") Misspellings were in the error message!

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          Dr Walt Fair PE
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          Yep, it did all that a few days ago, but then the freezing up got worse and I finally had enough. I tried IE on the same websites and it was OK, as was Chrome, but Opera looks like the clear winner for me. Sadly, it looks like FF is at the end of its life and it feels like losing an old friend. :((

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          Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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          • D Dr Walt Fair PE

            Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

            CQ de W5ALT

            Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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            zenwalker1985
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            It happens when you have used the browser for a very long time and your cache DB i.e SQL file (Firefox maintains it internally) gets too much big. Now Mozilla Corp has gone into a Fast fix and Release cycle mode. So you will expect these updates very fast unlike its the olden days where youll get once a 6 months cycle. May be edit your about:config file and reset automatic update options.

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            • D Dr Walt Fair PE

              Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

              CQ de W5ALT

              Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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              Aamir Butt
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              Chrome is the way to go. I shifted from Firefox to Chrome around 6 months back and I have never looked back since.

              A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God

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                I had no compunction going to chrome recently as the stability of FF was too irritating. Having said that I have to use IE in the office and saw similar problems with it for a while but I blame my net nazi for most of them.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                Roger Wright
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                Don't be too quick to blame the net nazi. My lady has a relatively new machine, and uses IE most of the time. But recently she's had trouble with IE shutting itself down while trying to complete tasks like finishing an online college test that can't be started over. I suggested that she switch to Chrome, and she hasn't had a problem since. Her machine is a Dell, with Win7 Ultimate, and she's tried both IE7 and IE8 - she has no interest in trying IE9, since nothing previous works worth a damn. I haven't experienced the shutdown problem myself, but I've been forced to switch to Chrome because my school site won't render pages properly with IE9 - text areas overlap each other and make the page unreadable. But I have to keep it on my machine because when downloading test results, Chrome reports a duplicate header violation and won't download my results for security reasons. IE doesn't mind security violations, and happily downloads any crap I select. Why can't they all just get along?

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                  Chrome is the way to go. I shifted from Firefox to Chrome around 6 months back and I have never looked back since.

                  A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God

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                  Roger Wright
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                  I concur... Chrome gets it right most of the time, and I wish that the rest of them would get on the bandwagon. Chrome has its quirks, but I've found it far more predictable in its responses to my coding, according to my interpretation of the standards. I could be wrong, easily, but what are the odds that someone fairly new to website design would read the standards and interpret them the same way a browser does? Using Chrome, the odds are getting better, and I approve of that trend.

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                    Don't be too quick to blame the net nazi. My lady has a relatively new machine, and uses IE most of the time. But recently she's had trouble with IE shutting itself down while trying to complete tasks like finishing an online college test that can't be started over. I suggested that she switch to Chrome, and she hasn't had a problem since. Her machine is a Dell, with Win7 Ultimate, and she's tried both IE7 and IE8 - she has no interest in trying IE9, since nothing previous works worth a damn. I haven't experienced the shutdown problem myself, but I've been forced to switch to Chrome because my school site won't render pages properly with IE9 - text areas overlap each other and make the page unreadable. But I have to keep it on my machine because when downloading test results, Chrome reports a duplicate header violation and won't download my results for security reasons. IE doesn't mind security violations, and happily downloads any crap I select. Why can't they all just get along?

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    IE doesn't mind security violations, and happily downloads any crap I select.

                    So that's supposed to be a feature! And here we were, blaming IE for lack of security.

                    Peace, ye fat guts!

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                      Chrome is the way to go. I shifted from Firefox to Chrome around 6 months back and I have never looked back since.

                      A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God

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                      krumia
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                      I switched to chrome about 3 months back. But I need FF when I want to download flash videos. Apparently there is no alternative for Flashgot in Chrome. :(

                      Peace, ye fat guts!

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                        Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                        Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                        Dario Solera
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                        I'm still resisting the urge to drop Firefox, mostly for political reasons. Google already controls a lot of what I do online, so I'm not giving them my desktop browser yet. Also, Firebug on Chrome isn't as good.

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                          I'm still resisting the urge to drop Firefox, mostly for political reasons. Google already controls a lot of what I do online, so I'm not giving them my desktop browser yet. Also, Firebug on Chrome isn't as good.

                          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog

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                          I know the feeling. I used to love FireFox, would suggest it to friends, feel a tiny spark of joy when I saw them move from the sluggish and buggy IE to FF. But Chrome just does it all faster, doesn't bug me about updates and is cleaner. It's a very good lesson for software devs - IE was getting more and more features, the UI was becoming bigger, more cluttered and more confusing as they tried to squeeze more in to make each release look bigger, like an improvement. Then google come along with a browser that doesn't have all that crap - and in fact has only a tiny UI, and everyone loves it. I see the same thing happening with other tools - I love uTorrent, because it's lightweight and dead simple, but they're releasing updates every few months that change the UI, try and squeeze in more, and it just doesn't need it. AVG used to be lightweight and discreet and now they're doing the same thing. Sometimes we WANT the software to just sit there, do it's job as quietly and quickly as possible and not pester us!

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                            Chrome is the way to go. I shifted from Firefox to Chrome around 6 months back and I have never looked back since.

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            Definitely. On Windows I prefer Chrome, while on Android I prefer Safari (because the Chrome browser, ironically, is a lot worse on Honeycomb and prone to crashing).

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                            • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                              Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                              Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                              blackjack2150
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                              Good choice! I've been happily using Opera for years.

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                              • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                                Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                hairy_hats
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                                I would suspect a plugin, not FF itself. Disable or remove all of them and see if you still have the problem.

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                                • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                  Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                                  Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                  Yeah,, Firefox is rubbish. Slow, crashes, stalls, Opera is far better.

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                                    Chrome is the way to go. I shifted from Firefox to Chrome around 6 months back and I have never looked back since.

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                                    Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                    Yeah, Chrome looks pretty nice, but I prefer not to use anything related to Google. Just a personal preference.

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                                      I'm still resisting the urge to drop Firefox, mostly for political reasons. Google already controls a lot of what I do online, so I'm not giving them my desktop browser yet. Also, Firebug on Chrome isn't as good.

                                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog

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                                      Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                      My feelings, too, which is why I went to Opera rather than Chrome. I don't knowingly use Google products.

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                                        I would suspect a plugin, not FF itself. Disable or remove all of them and see if you still have the problem.

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                                        Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                        I don't have any plugins and it did it on 3 different machines. I think it was FF itself.

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                                        • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                          Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                                          Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                          gavindon
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                                          I run an i7 processor with 8 gigs of ram and noticed the freezing as well a few weeks ago. I to still have FF installed but have went to chrome for most of my daily uses. have not tried opera.

                                          Common sense is not a gift it's a curse. Those of us who have it have to deal with those that don't.... Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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