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    Sahir Shah
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    I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

    L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
    Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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      I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

      L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
      Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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      NormDroid
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      Sahir Shah wrote:

      "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup".

      :) No that's where you're going wroing, you need a copy of "Learning VB.net in 21 days". That should do the job nicely ;)

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        Sahir Shah wrote:

        "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup".

        :) No that's where you're going wroing, you need a copy of "Learning VB.net in 21 days". That should do the job nicely ;)

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        AspDotNetDev
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        Yet another reason eBooks suck. Not only would you be stepping on VB, but you'd be stepping all over your many useful C# books. :((

        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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          I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

          L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
          Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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          Roger Wright
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          It depends on the author. Anything by Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek is sacred, but books by L. Ron Hubbard or Leon Uris may be safely used for anything from door stops to sanitary wipes for the outhouse. For the latter, buy the paperback versions on recycled paper, as there's less risk of paper cuts.

          Will Rogers never met me.

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            It depends on the author. Anything by Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek is sacred, but books by L. Ron Hubbard or Leon Uris may be safely used for anything from door stops to sanitary wipes for the outhouse. For the latter, buy the paperback versions on recycled paper, as there's less risk of paper cuts.

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            Roger Wright wrote:

            Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek

            Hey lets not forget Jeff Richter and Charles Petzold :)

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              It depends on the author. Anything by Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek is sacred, but books by L. Ron Hubbard or Leon Uris may be safely used for anything from door stops to sanitary wipes for the outhouse. For the latter, buy the paperback versions on recycled paper, as there's less risk of paper cuts.

              Will Rogers never met me.

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              Sahir Shah
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              Ah, thanks. That makes me feel better :) I really can't be bothered to go looking for a block of wood to do this on. As a compromise, I think I will switch to a reader's digest coffee table book on wonders of the natural world and leave the technical books alone.

              L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
              Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

                L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
                Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                Sahir Shah wrote:

                Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

                Only if you are wearing golfing shoes.

                Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                  I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

                  L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
                  Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                  I don't know about disrespectful, but if you are using a paperback book those pages could shift under your feet causing you to twist your ankle and/or fall. Better to use a hard bound book.

                  m.bergman

                  For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

                  To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

                  Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. -- Steve Landesberg

                  I am not a chatbot.

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                    Roger Wright wrote:

                    Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek

                    Hey lets not forget Jeff Richter and Charles Petzold :)

                    Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
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                    Roger Wright
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                    I didn't, but I wanted to keep it fairly brief. While we're at it, we might want to add Chuck Babbage to the "risky" list, along with Alan Turing.

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                      It depends on the author. Anything by Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek is sacred, but books by L. Ron Hubbard or Leon Uris may be safely used for anything from door stops to sanitary wipes for the outhouse. For the latter, buy the paperback versions on recycled paper, as there's less risk of paper cuts.

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      Sahir Shah
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                      Roger Wright wrote:

                      less risk of paper cuts

                      :laugh:

                      Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                        I don't know about disrespectful, but if you are using a paperback book those pages could shift under your feet causing you to twist your ankle and/or fall. Better to use a hard bound book.

                        m.bergman

                        For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

                        To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

                        Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. -- Steve Landesberg

                        I am not a chatbot.

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                        A good, thick dictionary would probably be okay, too. From what I see in print these days, I'd infer that few people have ever opened one.

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                          I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

                          L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
                          Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                          Sahir Shah wrote:

                          calf workout

                          By the way, that's not a good idea, working your calf that way. It makes the veal tough.

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                            I don't know about disrespectful, but if you are using a paperback book those pages could shift under your feet causing you to twist your ankle and/or fall. Better to use a hard bound book.

                            m.bergman

                            For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

                            To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

                            Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. -- Steve Landesberg

                            I am not a chatbot.

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                            Sahir Shah
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                            Michael Bergman wrote:

                            those pages could shift under your feet causing you to twist your ankle

                            Yes, that occured to me as well, later on. I am switching to a hardbound coffee table book which looks much more stable and solid. Thx.

                            Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                              I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

                              L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
                              Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                              Hard to believe, but once upon a time books were written and copied by hand. Even the paper was made by hand, which made the material to write and bind a book more expensive than normal people could ever afford. Not to speak about how expensive things got when you also wanted the cover decorated or some illustrations. Books were extremely valuable and contained reserved knowledge (most people could not even read). And here in Europe many books were copied by monks for their libraries. Certainly they had a preference for religious topics, which also might have added to the way books were treated.

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                                Hard to believe, but once upon a time books were written and copied by hand. Even the paper was made by hand, which made the material to write and bind a book more expensive than normal people could ever afford. Not to speak about how expensive things got when you also wanted the cover decorated or some illustrations. Books were extremely valuable and contained reserved knowledge (most people could not even read). And here in Europe many books were copied by monks for their libraries. Certainly they had a preference for religious topics, which also might have added to the way books were treated.

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                                They were expensive and rare, certainly, but it was worth every drachma. Books then were a lot lighter than the clay tablets we used in school.

                                Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  Sahir Shah wrote:

                                  calf workout

                                  By the way, that's not a good idea, working your calf that way. It makes the veal tough.

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  >Don't come out with comments like that or else he will go into a hoof.

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                                    They were expensive and rare, certainly, but it was worth every drachma. Books then were a lot lighter than the clay tablets we used in school.

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    Clay tablets already were an improvement over painting things on cave walls. Did you ever try to carry your cave around with you? But it took a few thousand years to get from cave walls to clay tablets because some other projects had higher priority, like developing better weapons than simple clubs.

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                                      I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

                                      L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
                                      Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                                      Do you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.

                                      Sahir Shah wrote:

                                      rationalist part of my mind

                                      Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.

                                      Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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                                        Clay tablets already were an improvement over painting things on cave walls. Did you ever try to carry your cave around with you? But it took a few thousand years to get from cave walls to clay tablets because some other projects had higher priority, like developing better weapons than simple clubs.

                                        I'm invincible, I can't be vinced

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                                        That wheel thingy looked interesting. Did the committee ever work out the details? I bet that we could have used that to carry caves.

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                                          Do you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.

                                          Sahir Shah wrote:

                                          rationalist part of my mind

                                          Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.

                                          Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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                                          VuNic wrote:

                                          I'll agree if asked by someone in the west.

                                          Those little barbarians... :)

                                          VuNic wrote:

                                          Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you?

                                          We barbarians are extremely practical about such things, especially when stepping onto the books somehow solves a problem at hand. Our ancestors already were like that and not being struck down by Odin or Thor just encouraged them to keep it that way.

                                          VuNic wrote:

                                          To me every book is means the same.

                                          Let me send you some stuff our marketing guys put on paper.

                                          I'm invincible, I can't be vinced

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