Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. Is this mere superstition ?

Is this mere superstition ?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
databasesql-serversysadminquestionannouncement
36 Posts 15 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • N NormDroid

    Sahir Shah wrote:

    "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup".

    :) No that's where you're going wroing, you need a copy of "Learning VB.net in 21 days". That should do the job nicely ;)

    Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
    Metro RSS

    A Offline
    A Offline
    AspDotNetDev
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    Yet another reason eBooks suck. Not only would you be stepping on VB, but you'd be stepping all over your many useful C# books. :((

    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • S Sahir Shah

      I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

      L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
      Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

      R Offline
      R Offline
      Roger Wright
      wrote on last edited by
      #4

      It depends on the author. Anything by Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek is sacred, but books by L. Ron Hubbard or Leon Uris may be safely used for anything from door stops to sanitary wipes for the outhouse. For the latter, buy the paperback versions on recycled paper, as there's less risk of paper cuts.

      Will Rogers never met me.

      N S 3 Replies Last reply
      0
      • R Roger Wright

        It depends on the author. Anything by Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek is sacred, but books by L. Ron Hubbard or Leon Uris may be safely used for anything from door stops to sanitary wipes for the outhouse. For the latter, buy the paperback versions on recycled paper, as there's less risk of paper cuts.

        Will Rogers never met me.

        N Offline
        N Offline
        NormDroid
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        Roger Wright wrote:

        Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek

        Hey lets not forget Jeff Richter and Charles Petzold :)

        Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
        Metro RSS

        R 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • R Roger Wright

          It depends on the author. Anything by Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek is sacred, but books by L. Ron Hubbard or Leon Uris may be safely used for anything from door stops to sanitary wipes for the outhouse. For the latter, buy the paperback versions on recycled paper, as there's less risk of paper cuts.

          Will Rogers never met me.

          S Offline
          S Offline
          Sahir Shah
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          Ah, thanks. That makes me feel better :) I really can't be bothered to go looking for a block of wood to do this on. As a compromise, I think I will switch to a reader's digest coffee table book on wonders of the natural world and leave the technical books alone.

          L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
          Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • S Sahir Shah

            I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

            L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
            Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

            OriginalGriffO Offline
            OriginalGriffO Offline
            OriginalGriff
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            Sahir Shah wrote:

            Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

            Only if you are wearing golfing shoes.

            Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • S Sahir Shah

              I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

              L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
              Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

              M Offline
              M Offline
              Michael Bergman
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              I don't know about disrespectful, but if you are using a paperback book those pages could shift under your feet causing you to twist your ankle and/or fall. Better to use a hard bound book.

              m.bergman

              For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

              To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

              Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. -- Steve Landesberg

              I am not a chatbot.

              R S 2 Replies Last reply
              0
              • N NormDroid

                Roger Wright wrote:

                Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek

                Hey lets not forget Jeff Richter and Charles Petzold :)

                Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
                Metro RSS

                R Offline
                R Offline
                Roger Wright
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                I didn't, but I wanted to keep it fairly brief. While we're at it, we might want to add Chuck Babbage to the "risky" list, along with Alan Turing.

                Will Rogers never met me.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • R Roger Wright

                  It depends on the author. Anything by Bruce Schneier or Matt Pietrek is sacred, but books by L. Ron Hubbard or Leon Uris may be safely used for anything from door stops to sanitary wipes for the outhouse. For the latter, buy the paperback versions on recycled paper, as there's less risk of paper cuts.

                  Will Rogers never met me.

                  S Offline
                  S Offline
                  Sahir Shah
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  Roger Wright wrote:

                  less risk of paper cuts

                  :laugh:

                  Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • M Michael Bergman

                    I don't know about disrespectful, but if you are using a paperback book those pages could shift under your feet causing you to twist your ankle and/or fall. Better to use a hard bound book.

                    m.bergman

                    For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

                    To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

                    Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. -- Steve Landesberg

                    I am not a chatbot.

                    R Offline
                    R Offline
                    Roger Wright
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    A good, thick dictionary would probably be okay, too. From what I see in print these days, I'd infer that few people have ever opened one.

                    Will Rogers never met me.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • S Sahir Shah

                      I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

                      L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
                      Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

                      R Offline
                      R Offline
                      Roger Wright
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      Sahir Shah wrote:

                      calf workout

                      By the way, that's not a good idea, working your calf that way. It makes the veal tough.

                      Will Rogers never met me.

                      N 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • M Michael Bergman

                        I don't know about disrespectful, but if you are using a paperback book those pages could shift under your feet causing you to twist your ankle and/or fall. Better to use a hard bound book.

                        m.bergman

                        For Bruce Schneier, quanta only have one state : afraid.

                        To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire

                        Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. -- Steve Landesberg

                        I am not a chatbot.

                        S Offline
                        S Offline
                        Sahir Shah
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        Michael Bergman wrote:

                        those pages could shift under your feet causing you to twist your ankle

                        Yes, that occured to me as well, later on. I am switching to a hardbound coffee table book which looks much more stable and solid. Thx.

                        Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • S Sahir Shah

                          I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

                          L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
                          Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

                          L Offline
                          L Offline
                          Lost User
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          Hard to believe, but once upon a time books were written and copied by hand. Even the paper was made by hand, which made the material to write and bind a book more expensive than normal people could ever afford. Not to speak about how expensive things got when you also wanted the cover decorated or some illustrations. Books were extremely valuable and contained reserved knowledge (most people could not even read). And here in Europe many books were copied by monks for their libraries. Certainly they had a preference for religious topics, which also might have added to the way books were treated.

                          I'm invincible, I can't be vinced

                          R 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • L Lost User

                            Hard to believe, but once upon a time books were written and copied by hand. Even the paper was made by hand, which made the material to write and bind a book more expensive than normal people could ever afford. Not to speak about how expensive things got when you also wanted the cover decorated or some illustrations. Books were extremely valuable and contained reserved knowledge (most people could not even read). And here in Europe many books were copied by monks for their libraries. Certainly they had a preference for religious topics, which also might have added to the way books were treated.

                            I'm invincible, I can't be vinced

                            R Offline
                            R Offline
                            Roger Wright
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #15

                            They were expensive and rare, certainly, but it was worth every drachma. Books then were a lot lighter than the clay tablets we used in school.

                            Will Rogers never met me.

                            L 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • R Roger Wright

                              Sahir Shah wrote:

                              calf workout

                              By the way, that's not a good idea, working your calf that way. It makes the veal tough.

                              Will Rogers never met me.

                              N Offline
                              N Offline
                              NormDroid
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              >Don't come out with comments like that or else he will go into a hoof.

                              Software Kinetics Wear a hard hat it's under construction
                              Metro RSS

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • R Roger Wright

                                They were expensive and rare, certainly, but it was worth every drachma. Books then were a lot lighter than the clay tablets we used in school.

                                Will Rogers never met me.

                                L Offline
                                L Offline
                                Lost User
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                Clay tablets already were an improvement over painting things on cave walls. Did you ever try to carry your cave around with you? But it took a few thousand years to get from cave walls to clay tablets because some other projects had higher priority, like developing better weapons than simple clubs.

                                I'm invincible, I can't be vinced

                                R 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • S Sahir Shah

                                  I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?

                                  L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
                                  Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche

                                  E Offline
                                  E Offline
                                  Eytukan
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  Do you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.

                                  Sahir Shah wrote:

                                  rationalist part of my mind

                                  Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.

                                  Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

                                  L R K P S 5 Replies Last reply
                                  0
                                  • L Lost User

                                    Clay tablets already were an improvement over painting things on cave walls. Did you ever try to carry your cave around with you? But it took a few thousand years to get from cave walls to clay tablets because some other projects had higher priority, like developing better weapons than simple clubs.

                                    I'm invincible, I can't be vinced

                                    R Offline
                                    R Offline
                                    Roger Wright
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #19

                                    That wheel thingy looked interesting. Did the committee ever work out the details? I bet that we could have used that to carry caves.

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

                                    L 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • E Eytukan

                                      Do you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.

                                      Sahir Shah wrote:

                                      rationalist part of my mind

                                      Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.

                                      Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

                                      L Offline
                                      L Offline
                                      Lost User
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #20

                                      VuNic wrote:

                                      I'll agree if asked by someone in the west.

                                      Those little barbarians... :)

                                      VuNic wrote:

                                      Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you?

                                      We barbarians are extremely practical about such things, especially when stepping onto the books somehow solves a problem at hand. Our ancestors already were like that and not being struck down by Odin or Thor just encouraged them to keep it that way.

                                      VuNic wrote:

                                      To me every book is means the same.

                                      Let me send you some stuff our marketing guys put on paper.

                                      I'm invincible, I can't be vinced

                                      R E 2 Replies Last reply
                                      0
                                      • E Eytukan

                                        Do you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.

                                        Sahir Shah wrote:

                                        rationalist part of my mind

                                        Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.

                                        Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

                                        R Offline
                                        R Offline
                                        Roger Wright
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #21

                                        Some books are meant to be stepped on; some authors deserve to be burned atop a pyre of their own writings. My Statistics textbook is one example. Not all things written and published are sacred; a lot of crap manages to get by the filter of good sense and taste, only to find its way to a bookshelf home it doesn't deserve. Reverence for the printed word is respectable; I, for one, have never made a mark in a book or folded a corner of a page - both are criminal acts, to my mind. But being an expert doesn't make one a writer, and many books are published these days which are deserving of no respect whatsoever. I refuse to sell my Statistics book back to the bookstore, because I cannot, in good conscience, allow it to fall into the hands of another innocent victim. When I'm done with the class in a few weeks, I plan to aerate it by making holes in it with an AK-47, so that it will burn more efficiently. No student should ever again be required to wade through this heap of crap; the authors may be fine statisticians, but they're not writers or educators, and their work does not deserve to be on anyone's required list.

                                        Will Rogers never met me.

                                        Mike HankeyM 1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • L Lost User

                                          VuNic wrote:

                                          I'll agree if asked by someone in the west.

                                          Those little barbarians... :)

                                          VuNic wrote:

                                          Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you?

                                          We barbarians are extremely practical about such things, especially when stepping onto the books somehow solves a problem at hand. Our ancestors already were like that and not being struck down by Odin or Thor just encouraged them to keep it that way.

                                          VuNic wrote:

                                          To me every book is means the same.

                                          Let me send you some stuff our marketing guys put on paper.

                                          I'm invincible, I can't be vinced

                                          R Offline
                                          R Offline
                                          Roger Wright
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #22

                                          :laugh: :laugh: I agree completely! :-D

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups