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  • M Mike Hankey

    A medic or in the case of the USMC Corpsman see a lot of horrific things in combat and I would rather he knew what he was doing prior to tending my wounds. Doctors used to use cadavers, don't know if they still do or not but it gives them some very practical training.

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    Mike Hankey wrote:

    USMC Corpsman see a lot of horrific things in combat

    very true

    Mike Hankey wrote:

    it gives them some very practical training.

    the article states that the goats arent good practical training though...

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      Mike Hankey wrote:

      USMC Corpsman see a lot of horrific things in combat

      very true

      Mike Hankey wrote:

      it gives them some very practical training.

      the article states that the goats arent good practical training though...

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      When I was in combat training (USMC 67) our instructor sat us all down in some low bleachers, killed a rabbit, gutted it and threw the guts up into the bleachers. It had no practical purpose other than expose us to death, that's what they were teaching us. If you've never seen something like that there's no way to explain it to you and no way to prepare you for it.

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      • M Mike Hankey

        When I was in combat training (USMC 67) our instructor sat us all down in some low bleachers, killed a rabbit, gutted it and threw the guts up into the bleachers. It had no practical purpose other than expose us to death, that's what they were teaching us. If you've never seen something like that there's no way to explain it to you and no way to prepare you for it.

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        I would have thought a stint in any local hospitals A&E truma section would be better training... especially given the amount of people killed by guns every year over there. but i do agree with your premise of preparation being needed

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          Mike Hankey wrote:

          USMC Corpsman see a lot of horrific things in combat

          very true

          Mike Hankey wrote:

          it gives them some very practical training.

          the article states that the goats arent good practical training though...

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          Would you rather they train on humans? As a veteran I'm damn glad the medics didn't have to practice on me.


          Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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            Would you rather they train on humans? As a veteran I'm damn glad the medics didn't have to practice on me.


            Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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            Mark Nischalke wrote:

            As a veteran I'm damn glad the medics didn't have to practice on me.

            Amen brother!

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              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10799998[^] how would anyone have ever thought this would be applicable training?

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              I'm with you on this. They would have to demonstrate this has any value. Glib references to the horrors of war are not sufficient.

              Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                I'm with you on this. They would have to demonstrate this has any value. Glib references to the horrors of war are not sufficient.

                Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                Right, forget the references, how about actual experience. Had any?


                Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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                  Right, forget the references, how about actual experience. Had any?


                  Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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                  Lost User
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                  That is just a bullying comment. I prefer to keep this impersonal and focussed on the subject at hand.

                  Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10799998[^] how would anyone have ever thought this would be applicable training?

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                    I think this discussion should have taken place in the Soapbox... perhaps someone can move it...

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                      That is just a bullying comment. I prefer to keep this impersonal and focussed on the subject at hand.

                      Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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                      I take it as a no then.


                      Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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                        I think this discussion should have taken place in the Soapbox... perhaps someone can move it...

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                        wizardzz
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                        Killa is on a roll with these type of posts today.

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                          Would you rather they train on humans? As a veteran I'm damn glad the medics didn't have to practice on me.


                          Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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                          Mark Nischalke wrote:

                          Would you rather they train on humans?

                          like how Nurses and Doctors are trained? ...... yes

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                          • W wizardzz

                            Killa is on a roll with these type of posts today.

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                            A troll on a roll! Give him a break though, goats are close cousins to sheep and he's a Kiwi

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                              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10799998[^] how would anyone have ever thought this would be applicable training?

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                              In case they face the chupacabra?

                              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                A troll on a roll! Give him a break though, goats are close cousins to sheep and he's a Kiwi

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                                _Josh_ wrote:

                                goats are close cousins to sheep and he's a Kiwi

                                ;P hahaha

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