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  • V Vasily Tserekh

    i made a bid with my friend that in codeproject there is a lot of c++ haters, if you hate C++ upvote this post and if you love it downvote this post

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    LloydA111
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    You are stupid. Go troll somewhere else.


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    • V Vasily Tserekh

      thanks c++ haters we are winning the battle, let us free from the chains of c++ long live to python, java and c# if you ever were frustrated by c++ upvote me

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      Chris Losinger
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      name a language that doesn't frustrate programmers

      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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      • V Vasily Tserekh

        i made a bid with my friend that in codeproject there is a lot of c++ haters, if you hate C++ upvote this post and if you love it downvote this post

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        Andrew Rissing
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        Something tells me your friend is going to win this bet.

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        • V Vasily Tserekh

          thanks c++ haters we are winning the battle, let us free from the chains of c++ long live to python, java and c# if you ever were frustrated by c++ upvote me

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          Henry Minute
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          If you have studied The Lounge at all you would realize what a bad tactic that was.

          Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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          • V Vasily Tserekh

            STILL WINNING C++ LOSEEERS, SUCK THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            Henry Minute
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            Please don't shout!

            Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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            • A Andrew Rissing

              Something tells me your friend is going to win this bet.

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              Henry Minute
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              On the other hand.......

              Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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              • V Vasily Tserekh

                i made a bid with my friend that in codeproject there is a lot of c++ haters, if you hate C++ upvote this post and if you love it downvote this post

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                David Knechtges
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                Nah, not going to help or hurt your reputation.... Although I probably should because you are obviously not a grizzled old programmer like me. As you gain experience you realize that just like for a car mechanic, there is a tool for every job. C++ is great for some tasks, C# for others, java for still others, and python for others. That's why there are so many computer languages out there.... It all depends on what you are trying to do. If you are shoehorning a task into a language because you don't like or understand another one, then you are doing yourself and your users a disservice. Here is one task that C++ really excels at, and one I am working on right now: Allow .NET dlls to work in a native application - doing this through C++/CLI now. The only other way to do this is through COM, which is no fun at all..... And, especially, since I do not have the source code for the native app. It uses good old LoadLibrary for calling DLLs (I have access to a scripting language for the app that does this). And yes, the syntax for C++/CLI is really ugly.

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                • A Andrew Rissing

                  Something tells me your friend is going to win this bet.

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                  jeron1
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                  Andrew Rissing wrote:

                  win this bet

                  don't you mean

                  win this bid

                  :)

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                  • V Vasily Tserekh

                    STILL WINNING C++ LOSEEERS, SUCK THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    lewax00
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                    The rating on your post says otherwise.

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                    • A Andrew Rissing

                      Something tells me your friend is going to win this bet.

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                      Vasily Tserekh
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                      no, i have what i wanted, i have a lot of c++ lovers tagged, i wish i could download a virus to their pcs, but I cant do that, instead i am going to downvote all their answers, ahahh my vengance will be complete!!!!! note: I have nothing to do today i satyed at home because i was ill, i have nothing better to do than make my c++ frustration hatred public

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                      • V Vasily Tserekh

                        STILL WINNING C++ LOSEEERS, SUCK THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        Enough sunshine. You are about to cross the line and get voted off the site for troll like behaviour.


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                        • J jeron1

                          Andrew Rissing wrote:

                          win this bet

                          don't you mean

                          win this bid

                          :)

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                          Vasily Tserekh
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                          sorry for the mistake, english in not my native language its only one of the 5 languages i speak ;)

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                            Nah, not going to help or hurt your reputation.... Although I probably should because you are obviously not a grizzled old programmer like me. As you gain experience you realize that just like for a car mechanic, there is a tool for every job. C++ is great for some tasks, C# for others, java for still others, and python for others. That's why there are so many computer languages out there.... It all depends on what you are trying to do. If you are shoehorning a task into a language because you don't like or understand another one, then you are doing yourself and your users a disservice. Here is one task that C++ really excels at, and one I am working on right now: Allow .NET dlls to work in a native application - doing this through C++/CLI now. The only other way to do this is through COM, which is no fun at all..... And, especially, since I do not have the source code for the native app. It uses good old LoadLibrary for calling DLLs (I have access to a scripting language for the app that does this). And yes, the syntax for C++/CLI is really ugly.

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                            Vasily Tserekh
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                            this is the wisest response i have received, i was just finding a way to express some frustration i had when i wass a c++ programmer, a lot of them havent had their paycheck based on software production using c++, c++ is becoming less used in STANDARD software programming as other languages rise up. When i started with c# my productivity was doubled. once a microsoft MVP told me and advice i always remember Programmer time cost a billion more times than CPU time, a programmer that doesnt understand that will be in the past forever.

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                            • V Vasily Tserekh

                              this is the wisest response i have received, i was just finding a way to express some frustration i had when i wass a c++ programmer, a lot of them havent had their paycheck based on software production using c++, c++ is becoming less used in STANDARD software programming as other languages rise up. When i started with c# my productivity was doubled. once a microsoft MVP told me and advice i always remember Programmer time cost a billion more times than CPU time, a programmer that doesnt understand that will be in the past forever.

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                              Lost User
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                              Vasily Tserekh wrote:

                              Programmer time cost a billion more times than CPU time, a programmer that doesnt understand that will be in the past forever.

                              That sounds wise, but it ignores reality by being an over-generalization. Tell this to a game programmer. Or someone in scientific computing. Or any run of the mill programmer when he/she is confronted by a problem of nontrivial size. The problem is, CPU time still costs time; if you use enough of it, it eventually becomes a problem. Back in the old days, it became a problem a lot sooner than it does now, that's all. That doesn't mean that we're not still hitting the limits, even though one might be led to believe such if all you see is business-"programming".

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                              • V Vasily Tserekh

                                thanks c++ haters we are winning the battle, let us free from the chains of c++ long live to python, java and c# if you ever were frustrated by c++ upvote me

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                                Joe Woodbury
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                                Whatever frustration I've had with C++ doesn't compare to the nightmares I've had with Python.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Vasily Tserekh wrote:

                                  Programmer time cost a billion more times than CPU time, a programmer that doesnt understand that will be in the past forever.

                                  That sounds wise, but it ignores reality by being an over-generalization. Tell this to a game programmer. Or someone in scientific computing. Or any run of the mill programmer when he/she is confronted by a problem of nontrivial size. The problem is, CPU time still costs time; if you use enough of it, it eventually becomes a problem. Back in the old days, it became a problem a lot sooner than it does now, that's all. That doesn't mean that we're not still hitting the limits, even though one might be led to believe such if all you see is business-"programming".

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                                  It actually is amusing as long as you don't have to clean up the mess our young heroes create. I once had a nice case where one tried to load an entire database into a DataSet and was totally helpless when the OutOfMemoryException came. It took half an hour to reach that point and the young Padawan could not get over the fact that no CPU or memory upgrade could prevent those two 'impossibilities' from happening. He had done everything 'the right way' after all. Stupid C# and .Net framework :) It's not magic and ignorance does not make miracles happen in some mystic fashion :)

                                  At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                                  • V Vasily Tserekh

                                    i made a bid with my friend that in codeproject there is a lot of c++ haters, if you hate C++ upvote this post and if you love it downvote this post

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                                    See ya!

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                                    • B Big Daddy Farang

                                      What about those of us who can take it or leave it? I'm happy to use it but I can't say I love it. I certainly don't hate it. What to do...? :~

                                      BDF I often make very large prints from unexposed film, and every one of them turns out to be a picture of myself as I once dreamed I would be. -- BillWoodruff

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                                      peterchen
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                                      You go read a bitScott Myers, then light a candle in front of a picture of Stroustrup!

                                      FILETIME to time_t
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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Vasily Tserekh wrote:

                                        Programmer time cost a billion more times than CPU time, a programmer that doesnt understand that will be in the past forever.

                                        That sounds wise, but it ignores reality by being an over-generalization. Tell this to a game programmer. Or someone in scientific computing. Or any run of the mill programmer when he/she is confronted by a problem of nontrivial size. The problem is, CPU time still costs time; if you use enough of it, it eventually becomes a problem. Back in the old days, it became a problem a lot sooner than it does now, that's all. That doesn't mean that we're not still hitting the limits, even though one might be led to believe such if all you see is business-"programming".

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                                        Vasily Tserekh
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                                        I AM A GAME PROGRAMMER, check out my articles, nowadays hard game algorithms are programmed in hardware, main engines are programmed in managed languages and critical functions are programmed in c++ or other and binded trought dll calls. Of course there are problems where CPU time is critical but those are the less. in STANDARD software development you cant allow to waste extra time optimizing your software performance because you will lose time , money , clients , clarity in the code, and the list goes on.

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                                        • V Vasily Tserekh

                                          I AM A GAME PROGRAMMER, check out my articles, nowadays hard game algorithms are programmed in hardware, main engines are programmed in managed languages and critical functions are programmed in c++ or other and binded trought dll calls. Of course there are problems where CPU time is critical but those are the less. in STANDARD software development you cant allow to waste extra time optimizing your software performance because you will lose time , money , clients , clarity in the code, and the list goes on.

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                                          Lost User
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                                          So then you must know what it's like to work on a time budget of handfull of miliseconds, even though you need to fit physics and AI and the CPU-side of rendering into that. As for "standard" programming, does that even exist? What's "standard"? There are websites - where performance is absolutely critical[^], mobiles - where the CPU's are stuck a decade back in time but people demand fluidity, and then you have boring in-house desktop apps where you'd be absolutely right. The rest I suppose you could call non-standard. But of course my point isn't that performance always matters, just that it (at least) sometimes does, and therefore that silly generalizations do not apply.

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