What do you think
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Social and logic rules don't always fit together. Biologically a girl or boy becomes active around 10 - 13 years and effectively in the Middle-Ages girls had their first birth on the age of 15 years. Logically teen agers will start to experiment with their sexuality at this age and as they reach full adulthood (between 18 - 21) they should have gained some experience. In Belgium most teenagers lose their virginity between 15 and 19 increasing sexual experiments from kissing to touching to the actual deed itself. It is highly depended on the individual. Socially the rules differ a little, but I personally agree that underaged teens should be protected against older people. There the discussion starts. If one would ask if a boy and girl aged 14 hold hands and kiss are doing something wrong, mostly the answer will be of course not. The other side boy aged 21, girl 14 or vice versa, the immediate response would be: "WRONG". Even ages 24 vs 37 eg. Is frowned upon, although legal. The difficulty, socially, are the ages between adolescence and adulthood lets say 15 and 21 eg a boy 21 with a 16 year old girl. I don't think anyone can formulate a good answer on that.
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I was 28 she was 17. We have been together for 17 years. What's so wrong with that?
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I was 28 she was 17. We have been together for 17 years. What's so wrong with that?
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Dalek Dave wrote:
What's so wrong with that?
You were 28 and was mature enough to understand the consequences of doing the right thing in a wrong way. So I guess you did nothing wrong in your long run relationship which is unjustified, and it is not like everyone is as lucky as you. Its good you are togather for so long and I pray would remain same for rest of your life.
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I was 28 she was 17. We have been together for 17 years. What's so wrong with that?
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Keith Barrow wrote:
I think in practise it is even higher than 18
In my opinion the children should be taught about their responsibilities. As it is almost impossible to stop teens to indulge in the acts. But if they are guided well it will reduce some. The teens are not possibly aware of the outcome. About Sex its always better to educate them rather than the prosecution against them (Prosecution should not be their if both the parties are under age, else the one who involve with some underage should be punished). We should teach them that sex is not only for the enjoyment but also it will comeup with the responsibilities, if you are not aware about its negative or say positive outcome (positive for those who do it for bringing a beautiful life to this world, but negative if the beautiful life is unwanted). If We teach them how it can affect the girl have the under age pregnancy, abortion will have a risk of girls health and even the life with the other. Other things that comeup are Sexually transmitted diseases, If one wont be aware of protections so whether he/she is a kid or an old age man, he may gets infected by it. So its always good to make them aware of the outcome of their activities.
I think you may have misread my reply to DD. In the UK the age of consent is 16. As DD said, if someone under the age of 18 is known to have slept with a 15 year-old, they typically won't be prosecuted. I was pointing out that in practise it isn't merely under 18, but under 25 (or, thinking back it could have been 21) and the police still generally won't normally prosecute for intercourse with an underage partner.
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I came across an article here[^]. I do not know about the culture of other countries but India is not very liberal in their lifestyle and we do not give freedom to teenagers for doing anything which may affect them due to lack of the knowledge as their age is concern. What does you think ? Its interesting to know how this things are handled in different cultures and trends.
A (sort-of) good sign is that 13-y.o. girls may be allowed to get the pill without prescription[^] in the UK - if that cuts the teenage pregnancy rate then it is a good thing (as a kid when you are still that yourself is going to ruin at least two lives). The down side is that it does not encourage the use of condoms, which may cause a rise in STDs. Still, with a few exceptions STD are pretty easy to cure, so on balance I have to say it is a good idea. If you try to legislate against people having sex, all that happens is the problem gets hidden. For about 9 months... [edit]Forgot the linky... :doh: -OriginalGriff[/edit]
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A (sort-of) good sign is that 13-y.o. girls may be allowed to get the pill without prescription[^] in the UK - if that cuts the teenage pregnancy rate then it is a good thing (as a kid when you are still that yourself is going to ruin at least two lives). The down side is that it does not encourage the use of condoms, which may cause a rise in STDs. Still, with a few exceptions STD are pretty easy to cure, so on balance I have to say it is a good idea. If you try to legislate against people having sex, all that happens is the problem gets hidden. For about 9 months... [edit]Forgot the linky... :doh: -OriginalGriff[/edit]
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No laws will ever stop children fucking. They have the bits to do so, and sooner or later they are going to want to try them out. The only sensible course of action is to accept that many of them will be fucking and educate them to fuck sensibly when they do.
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I came across an article here[^]. I do not know about the culture of other countries but India is not very liberal in their lifestyle and we do not give freedom to teenagers for doing anything which may affect them due to lack of the knowledge as their age is concern. What does you think ? Its interesting to know how this things are handled in different cultures and trends.
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In the UK 16 is the age of consent, but if both parties are under 16 there is usually no prosecution. Even if the boy is 16 and the girl 15 it is not dealt with. Only when one party is 18 or over and the other is under 16 is there a prosecution.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Only when one party is 18 or over and the other is under 16 is there a prosecution.
Other than the odd teacher getting done I've never heard of such a prosecution. Have you examples? :)
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I came across an article here[^]. I do not know about the culture of other countries but India is not very liberal in their lifestyle and we do not give freedom to teenagers for doing anything which may affect them due to lack of the knowledge as their age is concern. What does you think ? Its interesting to know how this things are handled in different cultures and trends.
A completely ridiculous, unenforceable law. As horrified and upset as I would have been had I found out my daughter was indulging in sex as a teenager I have to face the reality of being a human being: you want sex and there isn't very much that's going to stop you. Rather than, yet again, creating a law that can't be enforced, put that money and effort into education and contraception.
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I was 28 she was 17. We have been together for 17 years. What's so wrong with that?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
I was 21 she was 17, going on 19 years now.. In the US that would have been statutory if anybody had bothered to report me or any such things. In general here, its when the older partner is more than 3 years older and the minor is exactly that.. a minor.(under 18)
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I came across an article here[^]. I do not know about the culture of other countries but India is not very liberal in their lifestyle and we do not give freedom to teenagers for doing anything which may affect them due to lack of the knowledge as their age is concern. What does you think ? Its interesting to know how this things are handled in different cultures and trends.
Ra-one wrote:
...and we do not give freedom to teenagers for doing anything which may affect them due to lack of the knowledge as their age is concern.
What does you think ?
So how exactly do you insure that they get that information? How do you insure that the information is correct? How is is decided that they have in fact learned it? How are those that make the decision certified?
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I came across an article here[^]. I do not know about the culture of other countries but India is not very liberal in their lifestyle and we do not give freedom to teenagers for doing anything which may affect them due to lack of the knowledge as their age is concern. What does you think ? Its interesting to know how this things are handled in different cultures and trends.
As India is becoming the most populated peoples on the planet I'd say that this is a moot point!
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Ra-one wrote:
...and we do not give freedom to teenagers for doing anything which may affect them due to lack of the knowledge as their age is concern.
What does you think ?
So how exactly do you insure that they get that information? How do you insure that the information is correct? How is is decided that they have in fact learned it? How are those that make the decision certified?
jschell wrote:
So how exactly do you insure that they get that information?
As the only thing parents can do is show the right direction and its the child who take the instruction in a right way and should not get misleaded. Still if we get misleaded in long life no matter at what age, We then think about our parent advice and than regret why does we didnt follow them.
jschell wrote:
How do you insure that the information is correct?
And as you asked my friend their is no way to read human mind. As of respect the child pretends to be agreed upon the parents advice, but what actually going on in his mind is never be determined.
jschell wrote:
How is is decided that they have in fact learned it?
No one can decide this, Who we are to decide of ones life, just the thing that we are very much protective for our or others child, so we can only advice them that not do the same mistake that many people did in their past. We teach them not only to learn from their own mistake, but learn from others as well. Still if they found making the same mistake means he is the one who did not get the instruction.
jschell wrote:
How are those that make the decision certified?
Its their personal belief whats right and wrong. Parents who cares for their kids always wants a better future for their kids. I am not telling one should be strictly obedient and should follow all the instruction, but think atleast why each parents teach the same lesson to their kids. Are they just lamb who follows the others? or Are they intelligent enough and had a great experience in their life, and by their knowledge they want to build their kids future better.
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I came across an article here[^]. I do not know about the culture of other countries but India is not very liberal in their lifestyle and we do not give freedom to teenagers for doing anything which may affect them due to lack of the knowledge as their age is concern. What does you think ? Its interesting to know how this things are handled in different cultures and trends.
Well how does the saying go. Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed. What I read into that is that as soon as a girls body is ready to have children (at age 13 in most cases) the girl will start to experiment with sexual activities. The only thing we can do is to inform them of the possible consequences when they do it in an unsafe manner.
If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!
