Boycotting
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Last time I checked the Visa card in my wallet had not forced me into slavery. I'd say that if youre so unhappy with the options available to you in a particular industry you should make your own alternative.
Fair enough for you, but I think AspDotNetDev reached that level of unhappinness, or better, of unsatisfaction, that he wants to boycott, so better support him than saying it is not necessary. As for the slavery: how many days could you survive without your VISA ...? You (and so do I) are slaves from a certain comfort. Sweet slavery, but slavery indeed.
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Fair enough for you, but I think AspDotNetDev reached that level of unhappinness, or better, of unsatisfaction, that he wants to boycott, so better support him than saying it is not necessary. As for the slavery: how many days could you survive without your VISA ...? You (and so do I) are slaves from a certain comfort. Sweet slavery, but slavery indeed.
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In oz we have a system called eftpos which allows electronic payment from a savings account so I could live without any brand of credit card.
Interesting. Just read the wikipedia article[^], but I did not understand it completely: Do you have a physical layer ( like a card or anything) or do all vendors have a terminal to enter a code or your banking data ? Precisely, if you go buying your "baguette" at the baker, how do you pay for it ?
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I forget, who is the CPian known for his epic boycott list? A question to him and to the rest of you. When your list becomes so large that you are essentially boycotting everyone, how do you cope? For example, I want to boycott pretty much every popular financial institution in the US (Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, Bank of America), but the lack of workable alternatives makes that difficult. How do you handle situations like that?
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Interesting. Just read the wikipedia article[^], but I did not understand it completely: Do you have a physical layer ( like a card or anything) or do all vendors have a terminal to enter a code or your banking data ? Precisely, if you go buying your "baguette" at the baker, how do you pay for it ?
You have a physical card with a pin number and vendors have a terminal which you put the card into. Money is deducted from your account immediately and there is generally no credit, ie you can't spend what you don't have. Most places will also over charge you a small amount and give you change in cash if you ask.
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You have a physical card with a pin number and vendors have a terminal which you put the card into. Money is deducted from your account immediately and there is generally no credit, ie you can't spend what you don't have. Most places will also over charge you a small amount and give you change in cash if you ask.
That's exactly how my Visa is working in France, e.g. there is no "credit" possibility -> I cannot spend money I don't have either, because the transaction would be interrupted. The only difference I see, is that your bank is handing its own cards -- which as some point must be financially quite interesting, since hardly anyone use the services which come with a Visa or MasterCard, such as insurance or booking a taxi or ... OTOH, I don't think you can pay abroad with your oz card, can you ?
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That's exactly how my Visa is working in France, e.g. there is no "credit" possibility -> I cannot spend money I don't have either, because the transaction would be interrupted. The only difference I see, is that your bank is handing its own cards -- which as some point must be financially quite interesting, since hardly anyone use the services which come with a Visa or MasterCard, such as insurance or booking a taxi or ... OTOH, I don't think you can pay abroad with your oz card, can you ?
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I forget, who is the CPian known for his epic boycott list? A question to him and to the rest of you. When your list becomes so large that you are essentially boycotting everyone, how do you cope? For example, I want to boycott pretty much every popular financial institution in the US (Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, Bank of America), but the lack of workable alternatives makes that difficult. How do you handle situations like that?
Bank with a mutual (e.g. a credit union, building society, co-operative or similar) and pay by cheque or cash for everything. I don't think that boycotting Visa/Mastercard is necessary, though – what have they done to deserve it? If you pay off your cards immediately I don't think you're feeding them much money, anyway.
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Last time I checked the Visa card in my wallet had not forced me into slavery. I'd say that if youre so unhappy with the options available to you in a particular industry you should make your own alternative.
_Josh_ wrote:
Last time I checked the Visa card in my wallet had not forced me into slavery.
Nice way to distort Rage's reply. :sigh:
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I forget, who is the CPian known for his epic boycott list? A question to him and to the rest of you. When your list becomes so large that you are essentially boycotting everyone, how do you cope? For example, I want to boycott pretty much every popular financial institution in the US (Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, Bank of America), but the lack of workable alternatives makes that difficult. How do you handle situations like that?
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Last time I checked the Visa card in my wallet had not forced me into slavery. I'd say that if youre so unhappy with the options available to you in a particular industry you should make your own alternative.
Visa and others have created a financial blockade of Wikileaks. They are imposing their will onto citizens, forcing people to spend money as Visa wishes.
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Bank with a mutual (e.g. a credit union, building society, co-operative or similar) and pay by cheque or cash for everything. I don't think that boycotting Visa/Mastercard is necessary, though – what have they done to deserve it? If you pay off your cards immediately I don't think you're feeding them much money, anyway.
BobJanova wrote:
I don't think that boycotting Visa/Mastercard is necessary, though – what have they done to deserve it?
They have created a financial blockade of Wikileaks, which you can read a bit about here.
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I really want to say that it should be CG. His list of grievances and poor service from companies is almost legendary.
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He doesn't boycott... he complains and begs for more. :rolleyes:
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Visa and others have created a financial blockade of Wikileaks. They are imposing their will onto citizens, forcing people to spend money as Visa wishes.
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I believe I should be able to use "their service" on anything I can spend my cash on. I say "their service", because when they control something as essential as currency, they no longer have the right to refuse service for their own reasons. And if they are going to block my spending, they should only do so if they have been forced by law officials, which they were not. In fact, they hired a third-party to investigate Wikileaks and they found no reason to block payment, yet they are still doing it.
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I forget, who is the CPian known for his epic boycott list? A question to him and to the rest of you. When your list becomes so large that you are essentially boycotting everyone, how do you cope? For example, I want to boycott pretty much every popular financial institution in the US (Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, Bank of America), but the lack of workable alternatives makes that difficult. How do you handle situations like that?