PHP...
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PHP forum is now moved to LAMP but even the LAMP forum is pretty dead...May be we need to move the LAMP to the lounge ;)
Please no! DD and Nagy couldn't cope with a bright light first thing in the morning! :laugh:
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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PHP forum is now moved to LAMP but even the LAMP forum is pretty dead...May be we need to move the LAMP to the lounge ;)
LAMP is so perfectly implemented and documented and easy to use that no-one has any questions about it.
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PHP forum is now moved to LAMP but even the LAMP forum is pretty dead...May be we need to move the LAMP to the lounge ;)
Sure, feel free if you don't mind the massive loss of rep you will receive for blatantly ignoring the command not to post programming questions. Of course, perhaps it's an indication that this site just isn't that well known among LAMP users, and you should actually go out and do some evangelising.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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Sure, feel free if you don't mind the massive loss of rep you will receive for blatantly ignoring the command not to post programming questions. Of course, perhaps it's an indication that this site just isn't that well known among LAMP users, and you should actually go out and do some evangelising.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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PHP forum is now moved to LAMP but even the LAMP forum is pretty dead...May be we need to move the LAMP to the lounge ;)
Agh! Don't: just had to use php: what a festering pile of doggy-doo-doo. Like Asp Classic (or Asp-for-ladies as we used to call it) only less so. Still, it is pretty quick to get to grips with. Never using it again. :)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Doesn't stop you telling your LAMP friends about the forum though. Seriously, don't complain about it - do something about it.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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Agh! Don't: just had to use php: what a festering pile of doggy-doo-doo. Like Asp Classic (or Asp-for-ladies as we used to call it) only less so. Still, it is pretty quick to get to grips with. Never using it again. :)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
That's a very ignorant statement when you know nothing about php. php 5.0+ is now object oriented and like .net framework, there is zend framework and like visual studio there is zend studio and what asp can do, php can do and a lot faster and on top of it it's all open source. I like both as i program in both the languages.
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Doesn't stop you telling your LAMP friends about the forum though. Seriously, don't complain about it - do something about it.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
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That's a very ignorant statement when you know nothing about php. php 5.0+ is now object oriented and like .net framework, there is zend framework and like visual studio there is zend studio and what asp can do, php can do and a lot faster and on top of it it's all open source. I like both as i program in both the languages.
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That's a very ignorant statement when you know nothing about php. php 5.0+ is now object oriented and like .net framework, there is zend framework and like visual studio there is zend studio and what asp can do, php can do and a lot faster and on top of it it's all open source. I like both as i program in both the languages.
AndyInUK wrote:
That's a very ignorant statement when you know nothing about php
Only once you know more about PHP that statement considered completely correct and ignorance-free. :-D
AndyInUK wrote:
php can do and a lot faster
I doubt it. And let's not forget to factor in speed in terms of developer productivity.
AndyInUK wrote:
on top of it it's all open source
So is ASP.NET MVC. And you can view all the source for .Net (you can even interact with it in the debugger). And let's not forget Mono (cross platform open source .Net) and MonoDevelop (like Visual Studio, but open source and free).
AndyInUK wrote:
php 5.0+ is now object oriented and like .net framework
Is it also strongly typed?
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AndyInUK wrote:
That's a very ignorant statement when you know nothing about php
Only once you know more about PHP that statement considered completely correct and ignorance-free. :-D
AndyInUK wrote:
php can do and a lot faster
I doubt it. And let's not forget to factor in speed in terms of developer productivity.
AndyInUK wrote:
on top of it it's all open source
So is ASP.NET MVC. And you can view all the source for .Net (you can even interact with it in the debugger). And let's not forget Mono (cross platform open source .Net) and MonoDevelop (like Visual Studio, but open source and free).
AndyInUK wrote:
php 5.0+ is now object oriented and like .net framework
Is it also strongly typed?
I use to say exactly same as you before I had any experience with php but forceful working on php changed my mindset. So I would suggest you to learn advance php and am sure you will love it. Once again, I have developed on .NET more than i have developed on php and i still like .net but i also like php.. rant over.. peace out
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AndyInUK wrote:
php can do and a lot faster
Faster than my grandmother perhaps, and just as type-safe. :)
At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity
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I use to say exactly same as you before I had any experience with php but forceful working on php changed my mindset. So I would suggest you to learn advance php and am sure you will love it. Once again, I have developed on .NET more than i have developed on php and i still like .net but i also like php.. rant over.. peace out
It seems to me that ASP.NET is faster. There are common reasons people believe PHP to be faster. For one, IIS allows you to unload a web application from memory when it has become idle. This increases the time it takes to hit a website when it must awake from an idle state. While completely configurable, people don't often change this setting. Also, ASP.NET limits the number of threads than can be used to process incoming requests. However, requests can be made to be asynchronous. Of course, most websites do not require this, so stress test can overlook the fact that this is possible. ASP.NET also compiles the code that runs, which one would think would increase the perception that ASP.NET is faster. However, there are many ways to compile ASP.NET and it is up to the developer to choose among them. One of them requires that each page be compiled whenever it is hit after certain changes (e.g., a web.config change). There are ways to avoid this, but again this is not something that many people do (and on high traffic sites, there is hardly reason to). Usually, though, the performance of the server-side language isn't the biggest concern. Usually it's things like SQL or page weight (i.e., download size). And more of a concern than that is developer productivity, which is largely dependent on features and ease of use of the language/framework/IDE, and availability of information about those areas.
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Agh! Don't: just had to use php: what a festering pile of doggy-doo-doo. Like Asp Classic (or Asp-for-ladies as we used to call it) only less so. Still, it is pretty quick to get to grips with. Never using it again. :)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
While PHP has several issues that make it a somewhat amateurish language, it is really not in the same league of awfulness as trying to use ASP or ASP.net (non-MVC). I use PHP for my spare time web development, because it's really easy to find hosts that give you PHP/mySQL and you don't need any expensive tools, and it is quite easy to work with.
