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    Clifford Nelson wrote:

    I would have looked forward to JavaScript and HTML dying.

    What is wrong with these technologies? They enabled you to be here.

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    Clifford Nelson
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    HTML was designed to display documents on the web, and has been added to many times to try to make it work. However, it would be much better to be replaced with a new concept, more like SilverLight or WPF. More to the point, I resent that XML does not allow commented code in the middle, or to contain other comments. That really sucks. Then Javascript was not designed to play well withing XML (should not allow characters in a language that is suppose to be embedded in HTML that are not compatible with HTML). Have you ever heard of the book, JavaScript: The Good Parts, must be some bad parts, right. Would have been better to have a language that, if it looks like C, it should play like C, not something different.

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      Clifford Nelson wrote:

      I would have looked forward to JavaScript and HTML dying.

      What is wrong with these technologies? They enabled you to be here.

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      Lost User
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      No, I'm still sitting at my desk. Anyway, no matter who's fault it may be, HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language. No matter which ones are right and which ones are wrong, browsers fail miserably at being generic client programs. And the idea to embed client side logic in the HTML and them use one of the ugliest improvised interpreted languages that ever existed to implement that logic is the worst possible choice. Whenever I can I just throw all three out the window. A client application with a webservice usually gets the job done better, faster and with far less limitations than webpages.

      At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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      • S Steve Mayfield

        Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

        Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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        TorstenH
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        I just heard it in the radio. The world will be amazed when they find out that this one was ending 2009...

        regards Torsten When I'm not working

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          Clifford Nelson wrote:

          I would have looked forward to JavaScript and HTML dying.

          My Preference would be PHP :) http://t.co/2LWcxr4n[^]

          A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God

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          Clifford Nelson
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          I would very easily beleive that that is worse. I thought APL was both a horror and great. Probably just as well it is dead.

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            Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

            Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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            kid sister
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            Last week dad promised me to buy a nice bicycle for me(Christmas present!).

            xoxo
            Kid sister :rose: There's no place like Lounge - Me

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            • S Steve Mayfield

              Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

              Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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              Most if this you can find on wiki you know.

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              • S Steve Mayfield

                Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

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                NormDroid
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                A bit too late now I've just blown all of my life savings.

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                • S Steve Mayfield

                  Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

                  Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                  hairy_hats
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                  I heard this months ago.

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                  • S SSEAR

                    Clifford Nelson wrote:

                    I would have looked forward to JavaScript and HTML dying.

                    What is wrong with these technologies? They enabled you to be here.

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                    Rob Grainger
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                    And by that argument, C++ allows those technologies to run. WRT JavaScript, I submit... JavaScript - what's wrong[^]

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                      No, I'm still sitting at my desk. Anyway, no matter who's fault it may be, HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language. No matter which ones are right and which ones are wrong, browsers fail miserably at being generic client programs. And the idea to embed client side logic in the HTML and them use one of the ugliest improvised interpreted languages that ever existed to implement that logic is the worst possible choice. Whenever I can I just throw all three out the window. A client application with a webservice usually gets the job done better, faster and with far less limitations than webpages.

                      At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                      CDP1802 wrote:

                      HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language.

                      HTML was designed from the start to be primarily for semantic markup, not for layout.

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                      • C Clifford Nelson

                        I would very easily beleive that that is worse. I thought APL was both a horror and great. Probably just as well it is dead.

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                        BobJanova
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                        APL is not dead and it's not really a horror any more, either (like all languages it's evolved through time), unless you're allergic to brevity and elegance.

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                        • V Vasily Tserekh

                          its a shame i was hoping for c++ to die along with the world in december 2012 :) also prolog

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                          Vasily Tserekh
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                          Just kidding please dont get me too serious

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                            Just kidding please dont get me too serious

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                            For jokes that may be interpreted as serious, you may want to try the joke icon.

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                              CDP1802 wrote:

                              HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language.

                              HTML was designed from the start to be primarily for semantic markup, not for layout.

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                              aojepojefpoejafpeoj
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                              And that's the whole point. Html is being used for layout, so something new, designed to be used for layout, should be used instead.

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                                Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

                                Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                                msvbdev
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                                The Mayans weren't predicting the end of the world, they were just predicting the release of Resident Evil 6! (turns out they were off by one month :))

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                                  APL is not dead and it's not really a horror any more, either (like all languages it's evolved through time), unless you're allergic to brevity and elegance.

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                                  Clifford Nelson
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                                  That is good. I know that to a certain extent there were other tools created that are intended to solving mathematical equations, and not sure how they compare. I know that lisp also improved.

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                                  • S Steve Mayfield

                                    Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

                                    Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                                    MSBassSinger
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                                    It never was. Even with the previous knowledge base, the Mayan calendars are like an odometer. All that happens in December is that the next digit flips and the mileage goes on. From what I have read, there was nothing ever found that indicated the Mayans specifically saw an end to the world, and some Mayan inscriptions refer to dates far past the 13th baktun. The "end of the world" thing appears to be part Hollywood and part New Age fantasy.

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                                      For jokes that may be interpreted as serious, you may want to try the joke icon.

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                                      Fred McGalliard
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                                      Boys. (Says the old old man). If you have to tell em it's a joke, it is no longer a a joke. (Just joking mom!) On the other hand, we could really use a sarcasm icon.

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                                        And that's the whole point. Html is being used for layout, so something new, designed to be used for layout, should be used instead.

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                                        svella
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                                        But you missed my point, which is that doesn't fail miserably at being a generic layout language because html never tried to be a generic layout language. The failure then is on the part of those who are trying to use it as if it were. For layout, the language of the Web is CSS which kind of unique among layout languages in is capable at it's core of imposing a layout model on top of really arbitrary textual content in really any form (though in practice I've never seen it applied to anything other than HTML and XML. You could make an argument that CSS utterly fails at being a generic layout language as well, to which I would have to respond: If it fails, can you identify one that has succeeded or at least works substantially better?

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                                          No, I'm still sitting at my desk. Anyway, no matter who's fault it may be, HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language. No matter which ones are right and which ones are wrong, browsers fail miserably at being generic client programs. And the idea to embed client side logic in the HTML and them use one of the ugliest improvised interpreted languages that ever existed to implement that logic is the worst possible choice. Whenever I can I just throw all three out the window. A client application with a webservice usually gets the job done better, faster and with far less limitations than webpages.

                                          At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                                          CDP1802 wrote:

                                          Anyway, no matter who's fault it may be, HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language. No matter which ones are right and which ones are wrong, browsers fail miserably at being generic client programs. And the idea to embed client side logic in the HTML and them use one of the ugliest improvised interpreted languages that ever existed to implement that logic is the worst possible choice. Whenever I can I just throw all three out the window. A client application with a webservice usually gets the job done better, faster and with far less limitations than webpages.

                                          So do you have an example of a generic anything that succeeds at all or the vast majority of cases for a very vast number of very different use cases?

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