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  • S Steve Mayfield

    Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

    Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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    Most if this you can find on wiki you know.

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    • S Steve Mayfield

      Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

      Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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      NormDroid
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      A bit too late now I've just blown all of my life savings.

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      • S Steve Mayfield

        Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

        Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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        hairy_hats
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        I heard this months ago.

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        • S SSEAR

          Clifford Nelson wrote:

          I would have looked forward to JavaScript and HTML dying.

          What is wrong with these technologies? They enabled you to be here.

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          Rob Grainger
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          And by that argument, C++ allows those technologies to run. WRT JavaScript, I submit... JavaScript - what's wrong[^]

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            No, I'm still sitting at my desk. Anyway, no matter who's fault it may be, HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language. No matter which ones are right and which ones are wrong, browsers fail miserably at being generic client programs. And the idea to embed client side logic in the HTML and them use one of the ugliest improvised interpreted languages that ever existed to implement that logic is the worst possible choice. Whenever I can I just throw all three out the window. A client application with a webservice usually gets the job done better, faster and with far less limitations than webpages.

            At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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            svella
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            CDP1802 wrote:

            HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language.

            HTML was designed from the start to be primarily for semantic markup, not for layout.

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            • C Clifford Nelson

              I would very easily beleive that that is worse. I thought APL was both a horror and great. Probably just as well it is dead.

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              BobJanova
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              APL is not dead and it's not really a horror any more, either (like all languages it's evolved through time), unless you're allergic to brevity and elegance.

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              • V Vasily Tserekh

                its a shame i was hoping for c++ to die along with the world in december 2012 :) also prolog

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                Vasily Tserekh
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                Just kidding please dont get me too serious

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                • V Vasily Tserekh

                  Just kidding please dont get me too serious

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                  For jokes that may be interpreted as serious, you may want to try the joke icon.

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                  • S svella

                    CDP1802 wrote:

                    HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language.

                    HTML was designed from the start to be primarily for semantic markup, not for layout.

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                    aojepojefpoejafpeoj
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                    And that's the whole point. Html is being used for layout, so something new, designed to be used for layout, should be used instead.

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                    • S Steve Mayfield

                      Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

                      Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                      The Mayans weren't predicting the end of the world, they were just predicting the release of Resident Evil 6! (turns out they were off by one month :))

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                      • B BobJanova

                        APL is not dead and it's not really a horror any more, either (like all languages it's evolved through time), unless you're allergic to brevity and elegance.

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                        Clifford Nelson
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                        That is good. I know that to a certain extent there were other tools created that are intended to solving mathematical equations, and not sure how they compare. I know that lisp also improved.

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                        • S Steve Mayfield

                          Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

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                          MSBassSinger
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                          It never was. Even with the previous knowledge base, the Mayan calendars are like an odometer. All that happens in December is that the next digit flips and the mileage goes on. From what I have read, there was nothing ever found that indicated the Mayans specifically saw an end to the world, and some Mayan inscriptions refer to dates far past the 13th baktun. The "end of the world" thing appears to be part Hollywood and part New Age fantasy.

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                            For jokes that may be interpreted as serious, you may want to try the joke icon.

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                            Fred McGalliard
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                            Boys. (Says the old old man). If you have to tell em it's a joke, it is no longer a a joke. (Just joking mom!) On the other hand, we could really use a sarcasm icon.

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                            • A aojepojefpoejafpeoj

                              And that's the whole point. Html is being used for layout, so something new, designed to be used for layout, should be used instead.

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                              But you missed my point, which is that doesn't fail miserably at being a generic layout language because html never tried to be a generic layout language. The failure then is on the part of those who are trying to use it as if it were. For layout, the language of the Web is CSS which kind of unique among layout languages in is capable at it's core of imposing a layout model on top of really arbitrary textual content in really any form (though in practice I've never seen it applied to anything other than HTML and XML. You could make an argument that CSS utterly fails at being a generic layout language as well, to which I would have to respond: If it fails, can you identify one that has succeeded or at least works substantially better?

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                                No, I'm still sitting at my desk. Anyway, no matter who's fault it may be, HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language. No matter which ones are right and which ones are wrong, browsers fail miserably at being generic client programs. And the idea to embed client side logic in the HTML and them use one of the ugliest improvised interpreted languages that ever existed to implement that logic is the worst possible choice. Whenever I can I just throw all three out the window. A client application with a webservice usually gets the job done better, faster and with far less limitations than webpages.

                                At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                                CDP1802 wrote:

                                Anyway, no matter who's fault it may be, HTML fails miserably at being a generic layouting language. No matter which ones are right and which ones are wrong, browsers fail miserably at being generic client programs. And the idea to embed client side logic in the HTML and them use one of the ugliest improvised interpreted languages that ever existed to implement that logic is the worst possible choice. Whenever I can I just throw all three out the window. A client application with a webservice usually gets the job done better, faster and with far less limitations than webpages.

                                So do you have an example of a generic anything that succeeds at all or the vast majority of cases for a very vast number of very different use cases?

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                                • S Steve Mayfield

                                  Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

                                  Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                                  ClockMeister
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                                  Guess everybody making money on this years end-of-the-world prediction need another target! Sheesh ...

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                                  • S Steve Mayfield

                                    Maybe the world isn't ending this December [^] :~

                                    Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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                                    gollux
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                                    These ends of the world are such fun. Actually if you've saved up your money, you can get some really good bargains before, during and after the event. I bought my house cheap because of Y2k and the expectations of relatives of the owner. It was weird how people were divesting of various assets in exchange for money. Then there was an Evangelical event in my local town that had some good bargain hunting results. Though there were those who thought the rapture would free them from paying the bills, and over extended themselves much to their survival regret. Same goes for this one, despite the fact that they looked and found a page from the next month on the calendar. There are opportunities to be had from the true believer. Wasn't that axiom "A sucker and his money must be parted"?

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                                      It never was. Even with the previous knowledge base, the Mayan calendars are like an odometer. All that happens in December is that the next digit flips and the mileage goes on. From what I have read, there was nothing ever found that indicated the Mayans specifically saw an end to the world, and some Mayan inscriptions refer to dates far past the 13th baktun. The "end of the world" thing appears to be part Hollywood and part New Age fantasy.

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                                      gollux
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                                      From a National Geographic I read decades ago, it was a cycle based on an astronomical observance. They had watched long enough to know that there was a predictable time period and added it to their calendar system. It took into consideration the earth day, lunar month, solar year, possibly the precession of the earth's axis and tried to make some sort of unified time measuring system from the observations. Saying the universe would come to an end at the final day of the 13th baktun is like saying that the world would come to an end because it's the last day of the lunar month. They're all cycles.

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                                        These ends of the world are such fun. Actually if you've saved up your money, you can get some really good bargains before, during and after the event. I bought my house cheap because of Y2k and the expectations of relatives of the owner. It was weird how people were divesting of various assets in exchange for money. Then there was an Evangelical event in my local town that had some good bargain hunting results. Though there were those who thought the rapture would free them from paying the bills, and over extended themselves much to their survival regret. Same goes for this one, despite the fact that they looked and found a page from the next month on the calendar. There are opportunities to be had from the true believer. Wasn't that axiom "A sucker and his money must be parted"?

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                                        Steve Mayfield
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                                        "A fool and his money are soon parted" [^] :cool:

                                        Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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