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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    Who'd have thunk it, my Zafira broke down at the weekend; again. We'd gone shopping and the car just would not restart when we returned. Very luckily as I popped the bonnet and had a quick look to see if anything was obviously FUBAR a tow truck parked a few bays away from us. The guy said he'd take a quick look. Well, this one couldn't do anything and he gave his mate, who knows Opals, a call. Bloke B says he can't do anything until around 8, so the tow man takes our car to his yard which is closer to town. As a result we walked into Veszprem and had a nice lunch before looking around the old town; never been there in the 5 years we've had the house. When the Opal guy finally arrived, he plugged in his pc and immediately told us that one of the hoofa-doofas was elephanted and needed to be replaced. Five minutes later the car is working. Yay!!! We went home all happy and bouncing like very bouncy bunnies at the World Bouncing Bunny Championships. Come Sunday mornign the fracking tin pile of crap wouldn't start. Elephants and other pachiderms! Opal guy comes over and finds that part of the immobilizer is not working properly [it disabled the fuel pump] so he disconnects it and assures us there should be no further issues; but it might be time to get a new car. So. How was your weekend?


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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    Repost. aka

    void Nagy::main(){ delete car;}

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      Who'd have thunk it, my Zafira broke down at the weekend; again. We'd gone shopping and the car just would not restart when we returned. Very luckily as I popped the bonnet and had a quick look to see if anything was obviously FUBAR a tow truck parked a few bays away from us. The guy said he'd take a quick look. Well, this one couldn't do anything and he gave his mate, who knows Opals, a call. Bloke B says he can't do anything until around 8, so the tow man takes our car to his yard which is closer to town. As a result we walked into Veszprem and had a nice lunch before looking around the old town; never been there in the 5 years we've had the house. When the Opal guy finally arrived, he plugged in his pc and immediately told us that one of the hoofa-doofas was elephanted and needed to be replaced. Five minutes later the car is working. Yay!!! We went home all happy and bouncing like very bouncy bunnies at the World Bouncing Bunny Championships. Come Sunday mornign the fracking tin pile of crap wouldn't start. Elephants and other pachiderms! Opal guy comes over and finds that part of the immobilizer is not working properly [it disabled the fuel pump] so he disconnects it and assures us there should be no further issues; but it might be time to get a new car. So. How was your weekend?


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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      Well you would move to foreign climes! Had you had the wit to remain in dear old blighty the tow truck driver would have told you to elephant off, in no uncertain terms and his mate wouldn't have been able to fit you in for at least three weeks. So you have no-one to blame but yourself.

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        Who'd have thunk it, my Zafira broke down at the weekend; again. We'd gone shopping and the car just would not restart when we returned. Very luckily as I popped the bonnet and had a quick look to see if anything was obviously FUBAR a tow truck parked a few bays away from us. The guy said he'd take a quick look. Well, this one couldn't do anything and he gave his mate, who knows Opals, a call. Bloke B says he can't do anything until around 8, so the tow man takes our car to his yard which is closer to town. As a result we walked into Veszprem and had a nice lunch before looking around the old town; never been there in the 5 years we've had the house. When the Opal guy finally arrived, he plugged in his pc and immediately told us that one of the hoofa-doofas was elephanted and needed to be replaced. Five minutes later the car is working. Yay!!! We went home all happy and bouncing like very bouncy bunnies at the World Bouncing Bunny Championships. Come Sunday mornign the fracking tin pile of crap wouldn't start. Elephants and other pachiderms! Opal guy comes over and finds that part of the immobilizer is not working properly [it disabled the fuel pump] so he disconnects it and assures us there should be no further issues; but it might be time to get a new car. So. How was your weekend?


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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        Just take the alarm/immobiliser out. You dont need them on old cars and they are nothing but a pain in the but when they start breaking down. I have had two cars do this, and it is such a bastard when it happens.

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          Who'd have thunk it, my Zafira broke down at the weekend; again. We'd gone shopping and the car just would not restart when we returned. Very luckily as I popped the bonnet and had a quick look to see if anything was obviously FUBAR a tow truck parked a few bays away from us. The guy said he'd take a quick look. Well, this one couldn't do anything and he gave his mate, who knows Opals, a call. Bloke B says he can't do anything until around 8, so the tow man takes our car to his yard which is closer to town. As a result we walked into Veszprem and had a nice lunch before looking around the old town; never been there in the 5 years we've had the house. When the Opal guy finally arrived, he plugged in his pc and immediately told us that one of the hoofa-doofas was elephanted and needed to be replaced. Five minutes later the car is working. Yay!!! We went home all happy and bouncing like very bouncy bunnies at the World Bouncing Bunny Championships. Come Sunday mornign the fracking tin pile of crap wouldn't start. Elephants and other pachiderms! Opal guy comes over and finds that part of the immobilizer is not working properly [it disabled the fuel pump] so he disconnects it and assures us there should be no further issues; but it might be time to get a new car. So. How was your weekend?


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          my Zafira broke down at the weekend

          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          again

          Still not seeing the pattern?

          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          but it might be time to get a new car

          I guess we'll know when you tell us the brand of the new car.

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            Sunny, hot, couple of dead mice, and Elephant-all on TV. Pretty good (except for the mice, and the TV). :-D

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            The weekend was full of adventure for us. There was a Mini convention on Fured with over 1200 cars from all over Europe; very nice. Yesterday we were took a walk up to the next village to a very nice coffee shop for some well deserved cakes. As we sat outside enjoying the warmth etc etc, the heavens opened and there was one elephant off huge thunder storm. So we stayed and had extra cakes.


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              The weekend was full of adventure for us. There was a Mini convention on Fured with over 1200 cars from all over Europe; very nice. Yesterday we were took a walk up to the next village to a very nice coffee shop for some well deserved cakes. As we sat outside enjoying the warmth etc etc, the heavens opened and there was one elephant off huge thunder storm. So we stayed and had extra cakes.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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              1200 cars is not a mini convention - it's a reasonably big one. The cakes sound good though! :-D

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                1200 cars is not a mini convention - it's a reasonably big one. The cakes sound good though! :-D

                Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                It is very nice[^]. the video is in Hungarian, but you can see the cakes and location. They are a very nice couple and we go there pretty much every time we're down.


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  Who'd have thunk it, my Zafira broke down at the weekend; again. We'd gone shopping and the car just would not restart when we returned. Very luckily as I popped the bonnet and had a quick look to see if anything was obviously FUBAR a tow truck parked a few bays away from us. The guy said he'd take a quick look. Well, this one couldn't do anything and he gave his mate, who knows Opals, a call. Bloke B says he can't do anything until around 8, so the tow man takes our car to his yard which is closer to town. As a result we walked into Veszprem and had a nice lunch before looking around the old town; never been there in the 5 years we've had the house. When the Opal guy finally arrived, he plugged in his pc and immediately told us that one of the hoofa-doofas was elephanted and needed to be replaced. Five minutes later the car is working. Yay!!! We went home all happy and bouncing like very bouncy bunnies at the World Bouncing Bunny Championships. Come Sunday mornign the fracking tin pile of crap wouldn't start. Elephants and other pachiderms! Opal guy comes over and finds that part of the immobilizer is not working properly [it disabled the fuel pump] so he disconnects it and assures us there should be no further issues; but it might be time to get a new car. So. How was your weekend?


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  On Saturday I took my daughter swimming, pottered around the garden a little bit, then went to see her perform in a show, Dreamboats and Petticoats before returning home to sit in the garden with cold beer. On Sunday I sorted through 6 years of accumulated crap, tried to remove as much as possible from the living room, sanded and painted the door frames and skirting boards whilst getting covered in dirt and dust, and sweating a lot. I preferred Saturday.

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    It is very nice[^]. the video is in Hungarian, but you can see the cakes and location. They are a very nice couple and we go there pretty much every time we're down.


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                    Looks very civilized! :thumbsup:

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      Who'd have thunk it, my Zafira broke down at the weekend; again. We'd gone shopping and the car just would not restart when we returned. Very luckily as I popped the bonnet and had a quick look to see if anything was obviously FUBAR a tow truck parked a few bays away from us. The guy said he'd take a quick look. Well, this one couldn't do anything and he gave his mate, who knows Opals, a call. Bloke B says he can't do anything until around 8, so the tow man takes our car to his yard which is closer to town. As a result we walked into Veszprem and had a nice lunch before looking around the old town; never been there in the 5 years we've had the house. When the Opal guy finally arrived, he plugged in his pc and immediately told us that one of the hoofa-doofas was elephanted and needed to be replaced. Five minutes later the car is working. Yay!!! We went home all happy and bouncing like very bouncy bunnies at the World Bouncing Bunny Championships. Come Sunday mornign the fracking tin pile of crap wouldn't start. Elephants and other pachiderms! Opal guy comes over and finds that part of the immobilizer is not working properly [it disabled the fuel pump] so he disconnects it and assures us there should be no further issues; but it might be time to get a new car. So. How was your weekend?


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                      So. How was your weekend?

                      Fine, thanks for asking. I drove about in my 22 year old Toyota Corolla hatchback I bought 5 years ago from some dodgy prick that put it together from several vehicles. I have done about 140,000 kms in in it and for the last 2.5 years it has taken me back and forth to and from Canberra without a problem. Aside from a broken timing belt I've had no problems. General expected maintenance required of course.

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        Who'd have thunk it, my Zafira broke down at the weekend; again. We'd gone shopping and the car just would not restart when we returned. Very luckily as I popped the bonnet and had a quick look to see if anything was obviously FUBAR a tow truck parked a few bays away from us. The guy said he'd take a quick look. Well, this one couldn't do anything and he gave his mate, who knows Opals, a call. Bloke B says he can't do anything until around 8, so the tow man takes our car to his yard which is closer to town. As a result we walked into Veszprem and had a nice lunch before looking around the old town; never been there in the 5 years we've had the house. When the Opal guy finally arrived, he plugged in his pc and immediately told us that one of the hoofa-doofas was elephanted and needed to be replaced. Five minutes later the car is working. Yay!!! We went home all happy and bouncing like very bouncy bunnies at the World Bouncing Bunny Championships. Come Sunday mornign the fracking tin pile of crap wouldn't start. Elephants and other pachiderms! Opal guy comes over and finds that part of the immobilizer is not working properly [it disabled the fuel pump] so he disconnects it and assures us there should be no further issues; but it might be time to get a new car. So. How was your weekend?


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                        I had good fun changing the ball joints on my Wife's Classic mini... Suspension knuckles next weekend... and I'm gonna have to think about taking the engine and (auto) box out soon to recon the gearbox...

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                        • N Nagy Vilmos

                          Who'd have thunk it, my Zafira broke down at the weekend; again. We'd gone shopping and the car just would not restart when we returned. Very luckily as I popped the bonnet and had a quick look to see if anything was obviously FUBAR a tow truck parked a few bays away from us. The guy said he'd take a quick look. Well, this one couldn't do anything and he gave his mate, who knows Opals, a call. Bloke B says he can't do anything until around 8, so the tow man takes our car to his yard which is closer to town. As a result we walked into Veszprem and had a nice lunch before looking around the old town; never been there in the 5 years we've had the house. When the Opal guy finally arrived, he plugged in his pc and immediately told us that one of the hoofa-doofas was elephanted and needed to be replaced. Five minutes later the car is working. Yay!!! We went home all happy and bouncing like very bouncy bunnies at the World Bouncing Bunny Championships. Come Sunday mornign the fracking tin pile of crap wouldn't start. Elephants and other pachiderms! Opal guy comes over and finds that part of the immobilizer is not working properly [it disabled the fuel pump] so he disconnects it and assures us there should be no further issues; but it might be time to get a new car. So. How was your weekend?


                          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                          So. How was your weekend?

                          My Ford ran perfectly. What is a Zafira? A minivan...

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                            I had good fun changing the ball joints on my Wife's Classic mini... Suspension knuckles next weekend... and I'm gonna have to think about taking the engine and (auto) box out soon to recon the gearbox...

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                            Common problem on minis I used to change mine every year like routine maintenance I got so good at it I could change a set in about 15 minutes, including jacking it and taking the wheels off. It a bit of a pain but they're cheap enough (or they used to be)

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                              Common problem on minis I used to change mine every year like routine maintenance I got so good at it I could change a set in about 15 minutes, including jacking it and taking the wheels off. It a bit of a pain but they're cheap enough (or they used to be)

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                              aye, a fiver each, cannot complain at that...

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                Who'd have thunk it, my Zafira broke down at the weekend; again. We'd gone shopping and the car just would not restart when we returned. Very luckily as I popped the bonnet and had a quick look to see if anything was obviously FUBAR a tow truck parked a few bays away from us. The guy said he'd take a quick look. Well, this one couldn't do anything and he gave his mate, who knows Opals, a call. Bloke B says he can't do anything until around 8, so the tow man takes our car to his yard which is closer to town. As a result we walked into Veszprem and had a nice lunch before looking around the old town; never been there in the 5 years we've had the house. When the Opal guy finally arrived, he plugged in his pc and immediately told us that one of the hoofa-doofas was elephanted and needed to be replaced. Five minutes later the car is working. Yay!!! We went home all happy and bouncing like very bouncy bunnies at the World Bouncing Bunny Championships. Come Sunday mornign the fracking tin pile of crap wouldn't start. Elephants and other pachiderms! Opal guy comes over and finds that part of the immobilizer is not working properly [it disabled the fuel pump] so he disconnects it and assures us there should be no further issues; but it might be time to get a new car. So. How was your weekend?


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                Get up. Work. Go out for lunch. Work. Fix dinner. Work. Sleep. Get up. Work. Read a book about my research. Go out for lunch. Work. Go out for dinner. Work. Sleep. Get up. Work. Go out for lunch. Work. Go out for dinner. Work. Sleep. Get up and here I am. No problems with the Jag. It's still fun to drive and takes it's duty seriously.

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  Who'd have thunk it, my Zafira broke down at the weekend; again. We'd gone shopping and the car just would not restart when we returned. Very luckily as I popped the bonnet and had a quick look to see if anything was obviously FUBAR a tow truck parked a few bays away from us. The guy said he'd take a quick look. Well, this one couldn't do anything and he gave his mate, who knows Opals, a call. Bloke B says he can't do anything until around 8, so the tow man takes our car to his yard which is closer to town. As a result we walked into Veszprem and had a nice lunch before looking around the old town; never been there in the 5 years we've had the house. When the Opal guy finally arrived, he plugged in his pc and immediately told us that one of the hoofa-doofas was elephanted and needed to be replaced. Five minutes later the car is working. Yay!!! We went home all happy and bouncing like very bouncy bunnies at the World Bouncing Bunny Championships. Come Sunday mornign the fracking tin pile of crap wouldn't start. Elephants and other pachiderms! Opal guy comes over and finds that part of the immobilizer is not working properly [it disabled the fuel pump] so he disconnects it and assures us there should be no further issues; but it might be time to get a new car. So. How was your weekend?


                                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                                  We went house hunting with three small kids which was difficult. Saw 9 houses in a day but nothing we really liked. You don't have much luck with cars do you?

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