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  • N Nueman

    True. But he is coding in vb. In that world anything can happen. ;P

    What me worry?

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    greldak
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    In VB that expression will always resolve to False In other languages (C included) you could overload the values for 1 and 2 and/or the operator = or command If Good luck figuring out whats going on with that level of obfuscation. Its not something I would expect to see as a simple expression but it can be useful as a clause especially if you need to build up a complex expression at run time. In practice its more likely that some piece of funcionality is wanted to remain in the codebase but not required to run under normal circumstances - probably debug code although there are better ways of doing it.

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      In VB that expression will always resolve to False In other languages (C included) you could overload the values for 1 and 2 and/or the operator = or command If Good luck figuring out whats going on with that level of obfuscation. Its not something I would expect to see as a simple expression but it can be useful as a clause especially if you need to build up a complex expression at run time. In practice its more likely that some piece of funcionality is wanted to remain in the codebase but not required to run under normal circumstances - probably debug code although there are better ways of doing it.

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      svella
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      greldak wrote:

      In other languages (C included) you could overload the values for 1 and 2 and/or the operator = or command If
      Good luck figuring out whats going on with that level of obfuscation.

      I'm pretty sure you're wrong about being able to override either the values or the operator in C (or even C++ for that matter), but I'd welcome a working example.

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      • M Matthew Dennis

        or 9 x 6 = 42

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        Sucramsy
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        If 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything then this statement would be true.

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        • A AspDotNetDev

          I just came across this code written by a coworker:

          If 1 = 2 Then

          Seems silly; probably a way to temporarily block out some code or something of that sort. However, it made me wonder why there aren't more people taking advantage of a potential easter egg. When I typed in "2+2" into Google and WolframAlpha, they both replied with "4". :((

          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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          reilly96
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          in SQL I use that to create tables with no data

          select *
          into #t
          from table1
          where 1=2

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Oh yes! I remember making that mistake - it took ages to find before I realized that my constant values had changed... Trouble was,

            1=2

            looked a lot like

            I=2

            :doh:

            Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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            onemorechance
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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            ... my constant values had changed...

            Something about that just doesn't seem right ...

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              AspDotNetDev wrote:

              If 1 = 2 Then

              In old-school Fortran this was a real potential. Certain integers were stored at memory locations, then you could say 1 = 2 (assign the value 2 to where the value 1 is stored). Then statements like

              if 1 = 2 then ...

              would be 'valid'.

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              ekolis
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              You can do that in Java as well, though it requires boxing conversions...

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              • O onemorechance

                OriginalGriff wrote:

                ... my constant values had changed...

                Something about that just doesn't seem right ...

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                OriginalGriff
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                #24

                That's why it took so long to work it out - it's just not something you expect... :laugh:

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                • R reilly96

                  in SQL I use that to create tables with no data

                  select *
                  into #t
                  from table1
                  where 1=2

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                  AspDotNetDev
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                  Neat trick. :thumbsup:

                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                  • S svella

                    greldak wrote:

                    In other languages (C included) you could overload the values for 1 and 2 and/or the operator = or command If
                    Good luck figuring out whats going on with that level of obfuscation.

                    I'm pretty sure you're wrong about being able to override either the values or the operator in C (or even C++ for that matter), but I'd welcome a working example.

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                    Kostya Kovalskyy
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                    #26

                    compiles on GCC

                    #define if(X) if(1)

                    using namespace std;

                    int main()
                    {
                    if (1 == 2) {
                    cout << "this is executed" << endl;
                    }
                    return 0;
                    }

                    this would compile on C compiler too, but I just hate using those printfs. But you were right about #defining numbers -- it's impossible. A define identifier name cannot start with a number. But you can overload almost anything else.

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                    • K Kostya Kovalskyy

                      compiles on GCC

                      #define if(X) if(1)

                      using namespace std;

                      int main()
                      {
                      if (1 == 2) {
                      cout << "this is executed" << endl;
                      }
                      return 0;
                      }

                      this would compile on C compiler too, but I just hate using those printfs. But you were right about #defining numbers -- it's impossible. A define identifier name cannot start with a number. But you can overload almost anything else.

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                      svella
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                      Hmmm, yeah, well what you've really done is macro replaced an "if" expression (not really overloaded it in the normal sense of the word, but I guess close enough), but have not really succeeded in overloading 1, 2, or ==.

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                      • S svella

                        Hmmm, yeah, well what you've really done is macro replaced an "if" expression (not really overloaded it in the normal sense of the word, but I guess close enough), but have not really succeeded in overloading 1, 2, or ==.

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                        Kostya Kovalskyy
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                        Even through it does not really "overload" it, it can still lead to a lot of confusion. In C++ you can also do something like this

                        #include

                        class T {
                        public:
                        int a;
                        T(int _a) : a(_a) {}
                        bool operator==(const T &var) {return true;}
                        };

                        using namespace std;

                        int main() {
                        #define int T //this is defined here because main returns int, and this causes error if defined earlier
                        int a = 1, b = 2;
                        if (a == b) {
                        cout << "this is evaluated" << endl;
                        }
                        return 0;
                        }
                        }

                        Of course, you can always put anything in the == operator so it would behave differently :)

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                        • K Kostya Kovalskyy

                          Even through it does not really "overload" it, it can still lead to a lot of confusion. In C++ you can also do something like this

                          #include

                          class T {
                          public:
                          int a;
                          T(int _a) : a(_a) {}
                          bool operator==(const T &var) {return true;}
                          };

                          using namespace std;

                          int main() {
                          #define int T //this is defined here because main returns int, and this causes error if defined earlier
                          int a = 1, b = 2;
                          if (a == b) {
                          cout << "this is evaluated" << endl;
                          }
                          return 0;
                          }
                          }

                          Of course, you can always put anything in the == operator so it would behave differently :)

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                          Kostya Kovalskyy
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                          If you want to only "subtly" mess it up, and work for most of other cases normally you can do this:

                          #include

                          class T {
                          public:
                          int a;
                          T(int _a) : a(_a) {}
                          bool operator==(const T &var) {
                          if((a == 1 && var.a == 2) || (a == 2 && var.a == 1)) return true;
                          else return a == var.a;
                          }
                          };

                          using namespace std;

                          int main() {
                          #define int T //this is defined here because main returns int, and this causes error if defined earlier
                          int a = 1, b = 2;
                          if (a == b) cout << "this is evaluated";
                          a = 4, b = 5;
                          if (a == b) cout << "while this is not" << endl;
                          return 0;
                          }

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                          • N Nueman

                            True. But he is coding in vb. In that world anything can happen. ;P

                            What me worry?

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                            Keith Badeau
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                            :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                            • S svella

                              greldak wrote:

                              In other languages (C included) you could overload the values for 1 and 2 and/or the operator = or command If
                              Good luck figuring out whats going on with that level of obfuscation.

                              I'm pretty sure you're wrong about being able to override either the values or the operator in C (or even C++ for that matter), but I'd welcome a working example.

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                              Keith Badeau
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                              In C++ you can override operators inside of a class.

                              class foo
                              {
                              private:
                              int num;

                              public:
                              foo* operator=(int i) {
                              this->num = i;
                              return this;
                              }
                              // ...
                              };

                              I believe the example is syntactically correct and it is a very contrived an arbitrary example. Numbers cannot be overloaded (In Scheme maybe?) and new operators cannot be created that do not already exist. In C operators cannot be overloaded.

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                              • K Kostya Kovalskyy

                                If you want to only "subtly" mess it up, and work for most of other cases normally you can do this:

                                #include

                                class T {
                                public:
                                int a;
                                T(int _a) : a(_a) {}
                                bool operator==(const T &var) {
                                if((a == 1 && var.a == 2) || (a == 2 && var.a == 1)) return true;
                                else return a == var.a;
                                }
                                };

                                using namespace std;

                                int main() {
                                #define int T //this is defined here because main returns int, and this causes error if defined earlier
                                int a = 1, b = 2;
                                if (a == b) cout << "this is evaluated";
                                a = 4, b = 5;
                                if (a == b) cout << "while this is not" << endl;
                                return 0;
                                }

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                                svella
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                                Yep, I'm aware of operator overloading and all the attendant mischief possible with it. But I stand by my original statement, that given the original expression 1 == 2, there is no way in C or C++ to overload the values of the integer literals nor is there a way to redefine the meaning of == in a way that would affect it's meaning when used on those literals. But as you cleverly pointed out, you can use the macro processor to redefine if in such a way as to eliminate the expression before the compiler ever sees it.

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