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Victoria Windsor (AKA Victoria Saxe Coburg Gothe) is an illegitamate fake

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  • L Lost User

    Not all the estates were surrendered by the way. It is not so much that I am anti monarch, yes, a monarchy is a bit of fun, and encourage tourism, it is just that she is out of date, so out of touch with the modern world, and the position an monarch should adopt. Charles is better, but he has no hope of becoming king, but at least he uses his position to try to make a difference in the world.

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    all the royal estates were surrendered, at the begining of Victoria's rule the Crown had no assets, it was Victoria's rule and the canny investment of personnel wealth (most of which was Hubby's so German wealth) which meant that they were serious land owners at the end, but you dont like fact getting in the way of your rant do you. Its amazing how much inside infor you have? do you work for the Queen? as everyone seem to say she is down to earth and very much in tune with the modern world, something you seem to be ammiss

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      now whos touchy maybe you do mean this and would have been so happy under a dictatorship sounds like you have a big chip and feel so badly done to. oh and what BS as the biggest shoveler around here is you

      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

      maybe you do mean this and would have been so happy under a dictatorship

      Now there is logical reasoning for you. (Sarcasm intended).

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        all the royal estates were surrendered, at the begining of Victoria's rule the Crown had no assets, it was Victoria's rule and the canny investment of personnel wealth (most of which was Hubby's so German wealth) which meant that they were serious land owners at the end, but you dont like fact getting in the way of your rant do you. Its amazing how much inside infor you have? do you work for the Queen? as everyone seem to say she is down to earth and very much in tune with the modern world, something you seem to be ammiss

        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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        Thats right, choose to answer the smallest part of my post and ignore the majority of it. Probably because you cant deny it.

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          Thats right, choose to answer the smallest part of my post and ignore the majority of it. Probably because you cant deny it.

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          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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          really which bit didn’t i answer? the bit about being out of touch? the bit about being out of date? the bit about her role (which by the way is pretty much set by the political parties) or the right to question you on how you know she has no impact? your post is little more than petty jealousy what should be doing in your worthy opinion, commenting on govenment? or maybe more like that worthy in touch personage the archBishop of Canterbury?

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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            Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

            maybe you do mean this and would have been so happy under a dictatorship

            Now there is logical reasoning for you. (Sarcasm intended).

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            Erudite_Eric wrote:

            Go ahead, die for your country! Throw you life away in the meaningless BS of patriotism, duty and pride. All in order to keep the incumbent power class in riches!

            and if this had been the attitude of your grand parents you would be speaking German (oh I forget you probably are) your logical reasoning is that patriotism is bad and that any argument against you is BS? and you accuse others of logic failure!

            You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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              Erudite_Eric wrote:

              Go ahead, die for your country! Throw you life away in the meaningless BS of patriotism, duty and pride. All in order to keep the incumbent power class in riches!

              and if this had been the attitude of your grand parents you would be speaking German (oh I forget you probably are) your logical reasoning is that patriotism is bad and that any argument against you is BS? and you accuse others of logic failure!

              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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              You already speak German, they invaded in the 7th and 9th centuries. Anyway, at least of the Germans HAD invaded 100 years ago the U< might have a manufacturing sector to speak of and an economy that isnt completely fucked. I dont have any problem defending something I value, and it just might happen to be my patch of earth, but defend a flag? An incumbent power system? I am reminded of a big party held in Luton to celebrate the end of the first world war. All the local big wigs got together, the industrialists, the merchants and so on. NOT A SINGLE SERVING MEMBER OF THE ARMED FORCES WAS INVITED. Thats what they died for. It wasnt to 'not speak German' as stupid people often state, it was to keep the existing power structure in place. Tell me, before Germany united and industrialised, why did Britain support Germany? And after why did Britain oppose it? Why dont you THINK for a change.

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                You already speak German, they invaded in the 7th and 9th centuries. Anyway, at least of the Germans HAD invaded 100 years ago the U< might have a manufacturing sector to speak of and an economy that isnt completely fucked. I dont have any problem defending something I value, and it just might happen to be my patch of earth, but defend a flag? An incumbent power system? I am reminded of a big party held in Luton to celebrate the end of the first world war. All the local big wigs got together, the industrialists, the merchants and so on. NOT A SINGLE SERVING MEMBER OF THE ARMED FORCES WAS INVITED. Thats what they died for. It wasnt to 'not speak German' as stupid people often state, it was to keep the existing power structure in place. Tell me, before Germany united and industrialised, why did Britain support Germany? And after why did Britain oppose it? Why dont you THINK for a change.

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                not feeding trolls today - try tomorrow

                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                  really which bit didn’t i answer? the bit about being out of touch? the bit about being out of date? the bit about her role (which by the way is pretty much set by the political parties) or the right to question you on how you know she has no impact? your post is little more than petty jealousy what should be doing in your worthy opinion, commenting on govenment? or maybe more like that worthy in touch personage the archBishop of Canterbury?

                  You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                  Go on then,. tell me how in touch she is. Tell me how Blair DIDNT have to convince her to fly the flag at half mast when Diana died. The public opinion was NOT running against her at the time. Next tell me all about the charitable work she does the schemes she runs you know, the actual differences SHE makes to HER people. (Sitting back waiting for no response at alll...)

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                    not feeding trolls today - try tomorrow

                    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                    Ha! I see the big run away tactic when you can no longer propose a decent argument. You lost pal, I won, if you want to vouch it in such terms. ;P But seriously, look at history, look at why Britain supported Germany in the Franc Prussian war, and didnt in WWi. If you were a REAL patriot you would speak Brythonic Celtic, not a derivative of low German. But you dont. You chose the particular chunk of timelime to jump on and call it your bandwaggon, the one that happens to be something from about 60 years ago. Why not think outside the box, and make a better decision? For example, as you have said, I live abroad, in France, perhaps I am a greater patriot than you because I live in the country that invaded and dominated Britain? Perhaps speaking French is the true patriotic language (if you chose the 12th century chunk of Britains timeline.) But I dont really give a shit. I live my life, I am me. I am not defined by some family that perchance took power on some island centuries ago, by some narrow minded sacrificial BS. Its your choice if you want to be though.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Ha! I see the big run away tactic when you can no longer propose a decent argument. You lost pal, I won, if you want to vouch it in such terms. ;P But seriously, look at history, look at why Britain supported Germany in the Franc Prussian war, and didnt in WWi. If you were a REAL patriot you would speak Brythonic Celtic, not a derivative of low German. But you dont. You chose the particular chunk of timelime to jump on and call it your bandwaggon, the one that happens to be something from about 60 years ago. Why not think outside the box, and make a better decision? For example, as you have said, I live abroad, in France, perhaps I am a greater patriot than you because I live in the country that invaded and dominated Britain? Perhaps speaking French is the true patriotic language (if you chose the 12th century chunk of Britains timeline.) But I dont really give a shit. I live my life, I am me. I am not defined by some family that perchance took power on some island centuries ago, by some narrow minded sacrificial BS. Its your choice if you want to be though.

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                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                      sorry too busy to feed trolls

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                      • L Lost User

                        Go on then,. tell me how in touch she is. Tell me how Blair DIDNT have to convince her to fly the flag at half mast when Diana died. The public opinion was NOT running against her at the time. Next tell me all about the charitable work she does the schemes she runs you know, the actual differences SHE makes to HER people. (Sitting back waiting for no response at alll...)

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                        Yep, more running away since you cant provide any proof that she actually tries to do some good for Britain. At least Charles does, when (if) he becomes king I will have more respect for the job.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Ha! I see the big run away tactic when you can no longer propose a decent argument. You lost pal, I won, if you want to vouch it in such terms. ;P But seriously, look at history, look at why Britain supported Germany in the Franc Prussian war, and didnt in WWi. If you were a REAL patriot you would speak Brythonic Celtic, not a derivative of low German. But you dont. You chose the particular chunk of timelime to jump on and call it your bandwaggon, the one that happens to be something from about 60 years ago. Why not think outside the box, and make a better decision? For example, as you have said, I live abroad, in France, perhaps I am a greater patriot than you because I live in the country that invaded and dominated Britain? Perhaps speaking French is the true patriotic language (if you chose the 12th century chunk of Britains timeline.) But I dont really give a shit. I live my life, I am me. I am not defined by some family that perchance took power on some island centuries ago, by some narrow minded sacrificial BS. Its your choice if you want to be though.

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                          god you are realy 12 arnt you, you insult and then think its a game, wiki need to change its definition of troll and just point it at you. let me see Franco-Prussian war, a war started by france by attacking a long standing ally, yet as the UK wasnt threatened we kept out of it, WW1 Germany attacked a country with which we had a treaty to aid them why would I speak a dead language instead of one that has been developed over hundreds of years and is pretty much the defacto would language (even Itailian Universities are changing to english as thier language) no I choose to point out that if you do not stand for something you end up the bitch of someone who does. for someone so limited in there outlook I find this ammusing

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                          For example, as you have said, I live abroad, in France, perhaps I am a greater patriot than you because I live in the country that invaded and dominated Britain? Perhaps speaking French is the true patriotic language (if you chose the 12th century chunk of Britains timeline.)

                          firstly France never invaded UK, that was the normans a nordic race and in 11th century (your history is so poor) in the 12th the Normans were kicking frence ass all over france after the french king stole their ancestorial lands if you think that history has no impact on your current life then not only are you insulting but stupid, a lot of people gave up thier lives so you can say such things, if it wasnt for those families over the centuries france would not even exist maybe you should get off your bigoted high horse and look beyond the girly mags headlines you seem to be rlying on

                          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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