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    New York city is banning sugary drinks[^] but is turning down the heat on smoking pot.[^] Given that pot smokers often suffer from "the munchies" these policies seem to be at odds with each other. My guess is when NYC gets even fatter they'll blame Doritos.

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    Why would they even care? Do obese people pay less local taxes?

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      New York city is banning sugary drinks[^] but is turning down the heat on smoking pot.[^] Given that pot smokers often suffer from "the munchies" these policies seem to be at odds with each other. My guess is when NYC gets even fatter they'll blame Doritos.

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      MehGerbil wrote:

      these policies seem to be at odds with each other

      ..seems, as those munchies aren't enough to make one obese. You can buy pot legally in the Netherlands, and there aren't that many fat people in the coffeeshop.

      MehGerbil wrote:

      My guess is when NYC gets even fatter they'll blame Doritos.

      They're usually paying to be super-sized :)

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        New York city is banning sugary drinks[^] but is turning down the heat on smoking pot.[^] Given that pot smokers often suffer from "the munchies" these policies seem to be at odds with each other. My guess is when NYC gets even fatter they'll blame Doritos.

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        The real argument here is that they want to reduce the soft drink size but they leave the real killer in place...gigantic heart attack burgers. [tags]retards, NYC, New York City

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          MehGerbil wrote:

          these policies seem to be at odds with each other

          ..seems, as those munchies aren't enough to make one obese. You can buy pot legally in the Netherlands, and there aren't that many fat people in the coffeeshop.

          MehGerbil wrote:

          My guess is when NYC gets even fatter they'll blame Doritos.

          They're usually paying to be super-sized :)

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          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

          They're usually paying to be super-sized

          Coffee! Monitor! Wipe! :laugh:

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          • L Lost User

            Why would they even care? Do obese people pay less local taxes?

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            harold aptroot wrote:

            Why would they even care? Do obese people pay less local taxes?

            Yes. They die too early.

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              New York city is banning sugary drinks[^] but is turning down the heat on smoking pot.[^] Given that pot smokers often suffer from "the munchies" these policies seem to be at odds with each other. My guess is when NYC gets even fatter they'll blame Doritos.

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              Yes, this is Mayor Bloomberg at his finest... In other words, he's in his last term and no longer cares if everyone hates him... How I regret voting for him last election... Yes, I was fooled, like so many others. So, as someone who actually lives in NYC, I think this soda idea of his is completely stupid and unnecessary. If anything, NYC probably has a lower percentage of obese people than most of the rest of the country, simply because we drive less and walk more. If he wants to start another advertising campaign to ask people to cut down, that's just fine... But forcing places to stop serving large drinks? Ya know, I may not be a card-carrying Libertarian, but things like this definitely push me in that direction. And I don't know where you're getting the rest of your info, but the drug war is alive and well... And as foolish as ever (I've never touched the stuff, but I'm all for weed legalization)... I think Connecticut just did the medical legalization, but not NYC.

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                New York city is banning sugary drinks[^] but is turning down the heat on smoking pot.[^] Given that pot smokers often suffer from "the munchies" these policies seem to be at odds with each other. My guess is when NYC gets even fatter they'll blame Doritos.

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                Similar to an obese person ordering large order of fries and a diet drink at McD's.

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                  Similar to an obese person ordering large order of fries and a diet drink at McD's.

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                  I resemble that statement. :)

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                  • L Lost User

                    New York city is banning sugary drinks[^] but is turning down the heat on smoking pot.[^] Given that pot smokers often suffer from "the munchies" these policies seem to be at odds with each other. My guess is when NYC gets even fatter they'll blame Doritos.

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                    Discussing it keeps you too busy to look at Bloomberg's real agenda.

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                    • L Lost User

                      New York city is banning sugary drinks[^] but is turning down the heat on smoking pot.[^] Given that pot smokers often suffer from "the munchies" these policies seem to be at odds with each other. My guess is when NYC gets even fatter they'll blame Doritos.

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                      Legislation intended to dictate common sense doesn't make sense.

                      Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. - George Carlin

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                      • L Lost User

                        New York city is banning sugary drinks[^] but is turning down the heat on smoking pot.[^] Given that pot smokers often suffer from "the munchies" these policies seem to be at odds with each other. My guess is when NYC gets even fatter they'll blame Doritos.

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                        I don't think I've ever seen a fat hippie... too busy playing disc golf...

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                        • J Johnny J

                          They're not really banning sugary drinks, only limiting the size of the drinks you can buy at McDo. That's gonna help a friggin' lot. What they ought to do - if that's what they really want - is to ban every drink, no matter the size, in all outlets, that contain more than a certain amount of sugar. But I can't really see that happening.

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                          Johnny J. wrote:

                          is to ban every drink

                          It would be nice if consumers themselves made healthy choices instead of gov't having to step in to force those choices on people lacking the intelligence or will or desire to moderate their own behaviors. Marc

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                            They're not really banning sugary drinks, only limiting the size of the drinks you can buy at McDo. That's gonna help a friggin' lot. What they ought to do - if that's what they really want - is to ban every drink, no matter the size, in all outlets, that contain more than a certain amount of sugar. But I can't really see that happening.

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                            Johnny J. wrote:

                            is to ban every drink, no matter the size, in all outlets, that contain more than a certain amount of sugar alcohol.

                            Wasn't that named prohibition ? Did not turn out well.

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                              Johnny J. wrote:

                              is to ban every drink

                              It would be nice if consumers themselves made healthy choices instead of gov't having to step in to force those choices on people lacking the intelligence or will or desire to moderate their own behaviors. Marc

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                              That shouldn't really be necessary in my opinion. It would be better if the stuff you could buy WAS a healthy product to start with. But manufacturers manufacture what the consumers want (or what they THINK the consumer wants) - and if people are not clever enough to deselect the stuff that's not healthy for them, the market is flooded by crap. By forcing consumers to buy healthy products you could actually force the manufactuers to produce healthy products as well. You could of course also try to persuade the manufacturers directly, but they're more concerned about money than they are concerned about the people... :sigh:

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                                harold aptroot wrote:

                                Why would they even care? Do obese people pay less local taxes?

                                Yes. They die too early.

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                                But then also cost less in health care. Pure Darwinism.

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                                  Johnny J. wrote:

                                  is to ban every drink, no matter the size, in all outlets, that contain more than a certain amount of sugar alcohol.

                                  Wasn't that named prohibition ? Did not turn out well.

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                                  As mentioned, I don't actually think it's doable, and in an ideal world it wouldn't be necessary either. :sigh:

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                                    Discussing it keeps you too busy to look at Bloomberg's real agenda.

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                                    Mark Wallace wrote:

                                    Bloomberg's real agenda.

                                    Which is???

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                                      But then also cost less in health care. Pure Darwinism.

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                                      Rage wrote:

                                      But then also cost less in health care. Pure Darwinism.

                                      Rather lousy math. There's a whole plethora of related diseases that bring the industry millions in revenue :)

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                                        Rage wrote:

                                        But then also cost less in health care. Pure Darwinism.

                                        Rather lousy math. There's a whole plethora of related diseases that bring the industry millions in revenue :)

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                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        Rather lousy math

                                        Sorry, I am not the accountant ( On latest news he was sitting on a bridge near Luton waiting for the Queen's boat).

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                                        • J Johnny J

                                          That shouldn't really be necessary in my opinion. It would be better if the stuff you could buy WAS a healthy product to start with. But manufacturers manufacture what the consumers want (or what they THINK the consumer wants) - and if people are not clever enough to deselect the stuff that's not healthy for them, the market is flooded by crap. By forcing consumers to buy healthy products you could actually force the manufactuers to produce healthy products as well. You could of course also try to persuade the manufacturers directly, but they're more concerned about money than they are concerned about the people... :sigh:

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                                          Johnny J. wrote:

                                          It would be better if the stuff you could buy WAS a healthy product to start with. But manufacturers manufacture what the consumers want (or what they THINK the consumer wants) - and if people are not clever enough to deselect the stuff that's not healthy for them, the market is flooded by crap.

                                          Aside from water, unsweetened tea, and coconut water (which are already on the market), are there any low calorie drinks? Are manufacturers holding magical delicious low calorie drinks from the masses?

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