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  • V Vasily Tserekh

    which weapon will you choose for a world war conflict supposing the ammo for each one will be the same

    The safest way to remain in poverty is to be an honored man. Napoleon Bonaparte

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    Lost User
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    Vasily Tserekh wrote:

    the ammo for each one will be the same

    They arent, 5.2 vs 7.62 mm AFAIK. Go for the one with the smallest ammo, it is lighter to carry....

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    • T TorstenH

      true, the 5.56 ammo is pretty handsome. But also doesn't affect as much damage as the good old 7.62.

      regards Torsten When I'm not working

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      TorstenH. wrote:

      doesn't affect as much damage as the good old 7.62.

      they put a very low twist in the M16 to give the bullet a low spin thus making it more likely to tumble on entry and cause massive internal wounding. OK, it wont go through trees and still keep in a straight line, but it is an effective weapon.

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        The sensible gentleman would find another way. There would have to be a rock handy in all that convenient rubble.

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

        There would have to be a rock handy

        Which coincidentally is a word that boygirl does not know.


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          wizardzz
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          Ever held one? They have one at my gun shop, but I've yet to fire it. Someday... someday...

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          • V Vasily Tserekh

            which weapon will you choose for a world war conflict supposing the ammo for each one will be the same

            The safest way to remain in poverty is to be an honored man. Napoleon Bonaparte

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            None of them. Heckler & Koch G3, nothing else.

            At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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            • V Vasily Tserekh

              which weapon will you choose for a world war conflict supposing the ammo for each one will be the same

              The safest way to remain in poverty is to be an honored man. Napoleon Bonaparte

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              wizardzz
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              No reason to be downvoted! Countered

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                Neither, if I was going into battle I'd just take a platoon of Little Old Ladies.


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                Slacker007
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                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                I'd just take a platoon of Little Old Ladies.

                Purses or canes?

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                  Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                  I'd just take a platoon of Little Old Ladies.

                  Purses or canes?

                  "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                  "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  Just the offer of a cream tea and they get the job done. Best not to go into more detail than that.


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    Just the offer of a cream tea and they get the job done. Best not to go into more detail than that.


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                    Slacker007
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                    Now that's funny.

                    "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                    "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      Just the offer of a cream tea and they get the job done. Best not to go into more detail than that.


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                      RJOberg
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                      Make tea not war?

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                      • W wizardzz

                        Ever held one? They have one at my gun shop, but I've yet to fire it. Someday... someday...

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                        RJOberg
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                        They are interesting, almost no recoil. Was out one day practicing for an IDPA meet and one of the other guys had the semi-auto version. Less than a .22 in my opinion.

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                        • V Vasily Tserekh

                          which weapon will you choose for a world war conflict supposing the ammo for each one will be the same

                          The safest way to remain in poverty is to be an honored man. Napoleon Bonaparte

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                          0bx
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                          If I was in a war, my weapon would pretending that I'm a doctor and lying about having a huge stash of gold buried somewhere. Carrying a gun will make you dangerous and expendable. People who die the most in wars are exactly in those categories. Also, the AK-47 is the best gun...

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                          • T TorstenH

                            supposing the ammo for each one will be the same Ever used any weapon? The ammo is never the same. Therefor AK-47. Most reliable. better ammo.

                            regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                            Vasily Tserekh
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                            the same ammount weight of ammo, form example 10 kg of bullets from each weapon

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                              I like the m16 because it doesn't shake that much when you fire :P *Based on my gaming experience.

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                              Well yeah, but it takes 5 shots in the chest to kill someone. *Based on my gaming experience

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                              • V Vasily Tserekh

                                which weapon will you choose for a world war conflict supposing the ammo for each one will be the same

                                The safest way to remain in poverty is to be an honored man. Napoleon Bonaparte

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                                Water balloons.

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                                • T TorstenH

                                  true, the 5.56 ammo is pretty handsome. But also doesn't affect as much damage as the good old 7.62.

                                  regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                                  TorstenH. wrote:

                                  But also doesn't affect as much damage as the good old 7.62.

                                  Like I always said, if you can take a .22 to the forehead and walk away, then you can take a 7.62 with no problem.

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                                  "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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                                  • S Simon_Whale

                                    Anyway would be a good way

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                                    • V Vasily Tserekh

                                      which weapon will you choose for a world war conflict supposing the ammo for each one will be the same

                                      The safest way to remain in poverty is to be an honored man. Napoleon Bonaparte

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                                      Kevin Marois
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                                      First, the ammo for both is not the same. An AK is 7.62x39 and an M16 is 5.56, which is a smaller round. The AK is an assult weapon designed for close in combat and is a piece of crap. It requires constant maintenance if you don't want a to lug around an 11.5 pound hunk of rust. It does however have more stopping power than the M16. It is can be fired semi or full auto. Although the M16A2 is characterized as an "assult rifle", it was really designed for longer engagements and is mostly made of composite materials so it has better resiliency to weather. It is lighter than the AK at 7.8 pounds and fires semi-auto or 3 round burst. This design was supposed to help in accuracy as it elimiates the "spray & pray" factor. See this[^] for a decent comparison.

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                                      • V Vasily Tserekh

                                        which weapon will you choose for a world war conflict supposing the ammo for each one will be the same

                                        The safest way to remain in poverty is to be an honored man. Napoleon Bonaparte

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                                        charlieg
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                                        It depends on where in the world. Just had this conversation with a friend of mine. Rather than the WW3, it was more along the lines of a zombie apocolypse situation. In *that* case, and since I live in the USA, I'd go with the M16. Far more law enforcement agencies have standardized on this, so there will be more ammo around. So goes the thought.

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                                        • J Jorgen Andersson

                                          More reliable wins in my opinion. AK-47 is also easier to clean and to keep clean.

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                                          Kevin Marois
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                                          Absolutly wrong. The AK is mostly steel. Steel = rust. The M16 is moslty composite & alluminum. The AK has more parts. That's why the AK is harder to dissasemble for cleaning and hard to keep clean overall than the M16.

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