artificial inteligence is a myth!!!
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Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine
That's why it's called artificial. I think we can simulate intelligence. Computers can make logical conclusions based on how they're programmed but to make independent reasoning and become truly intelligent and self-aware is questionable. We don't even know what that really means anyway.
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Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine
Factually you may be correct in your assertions; however, I have no doubt that, at some point in the future, we will have some form of AI. What that form will take or how it will be achieved I have no idea but you are probably correct that it won't involve VB. :)
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I think you are right. Programming is about procedures to solve problems, effectively. One can only program as many solutions as the programmer can think of. But true intelligence is the ability to solve NEW problems. Therefore traditional programming canot achieve that.
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
Therefore
Ergo, ipso facto oreo columbo.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
One can only program as many solutions as the programmer can think of.
We need only design something as complicated as ourselves. If JavaScript can do it, there may be a chance we can do it. :)
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Hmmm, you kept on ranting against C++ because you never understood it. Now you are ranting against AI and I am beginning to see a pattern here. You really are a troll and I think my signature was made just for you :)
At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity
men thats offensive, thats my opinion if you disagree you can make your points not make offensive jokes, also my parents are russians and you REALLY know they are not stupids
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Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine
This is a huge topic as you really need to define what you mean by human intelligence first. If you mean conciousness then yes there is an issue - philosophers for thousands of years have been trying to figure out what conciousness is, we still seem to be none the wiser. If by intelligence you mean the ability to make decisions quickly, accurately and learn from mistakes then I would say that AI is pretty darn good! A couple of examples (one from my own experience): - I have used SAPI for voice recognition in speech recognition software[^] I have written and the accuracy is fairly amazing. SAPI will learn from mistakes and the more it is used the better it becomes at word recognition. - I also believe that the google driverless car[^] is going to be quite something. So all in all I think AI really is doing very well - if you leave out the 'conciousness' part which has puzzled even some of the most insightful Buddhist monks who have spent years in caves studying their own minds through meditation... I am guessing though that you have something specific in mind.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine
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Yes i did and that makes me think that, I am not a troll, thats my particular point of view after watch the current state of the art of the AI
The definition of intelligence is 1.The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. Honestly from that meaning alone, I would say many systems, ones that were not even meant to be A.I., are in fact more intelligent than the average human. I am not joking here. Think about it. Think about what social networks currently do. They aquire knowledge about you and your network an aply skills of successful matching of advertising campaigns and further networking. There is not a human being on this planet that can do that more efficiently. I also have studied A.I. and there is plenty of it already out there. Maybe it does not meat your standards of being intellegent. But then again, maybe you just aren't very intelligent. So your standards are irrelevent.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Factually you may be correct in your assertions; however, I have no doubt that, at some point in the future, we will have some form of AI. What that form will take or how it will be achieved I have no idea but you are probably correct that it won't involve VB. :)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
haah you are right as long as VB its out of the ecuation
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Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine
Have you checked out "Extreme Artificial Intelligence" in the algorithms forum? Dave.
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I bet you got caught by the pacman ghosts a lot. Is this post a revenge posting?
If it moves, compile it
hahaha if you see my age you will see that that game was very old when i started playing but nice joke
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men thats offensive, thats my opinion if you disagree you can make your points not make offensive jokes, also my parents are russians and you REALLY know they are not stupids
Vasily Tserekh wrote:
also my parents are russians and you REALLY know they are not stupids
Russians are just as capable of being stupid as the rest of the world, and smart parents can have stupid children, so I fail to see what point you're trying to make. (Not saying anything about you specifically either way, just that your point makes no sense.)
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The definition of intelligence is 1.The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. Honestly from that meaning alone, I would say many systems, ones that were not even meant to be A.I., are in fact more intelligent than the average human. I am not joking here. Think about it. Think about what social networks currently do. They aquire knowledge about you and your network an aply skills of successful matching of advertising campaigns and further networking. There is not a human being on this planet that can do that more efficiently. I also have studied A.I. and there is plenty of it already out there. Maybe it does not meat your standards of being intellegent. But then again, maybe you just aren't very intelligent. So your standards are irrelevent.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
If you are going to slam someone, make sure your post is impeachable, i.e. "an aply", "meat". Dave.
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Any programmer who thinks that we are going to reach the human intelligence by if switchs elses for loops, is either crazy or has inhaled a pound of cocaine
I see a lot of people responding that technology will evolve to the point where we will have good AI. I don't think that is what you are saying so I am not sure why they are using that as their argument. I agree, with current technology and if elses and loops, we will not get to AI.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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If you are going to slam someone, make sure your post is impeachable, i.e. "an aply", "meat". Dave.
Take the 'an aply' up with google. https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+Intelligence&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&safe=active[^] "meat".. Ok thats mine:) But there is irony in it... People fight A.I. reasoning because it simply is not living ;P it was not intentional though
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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This is a huge topic as you really need to define what you mean by human intelligence first. If you mean conciousness then yes there is an issue - philosophers for thousands of years have been trying to figure out what conciousness is, we still seem to be none the wiser. If by intelligence you mean the ability to make decisions quickly, accurately and learn from mistakes then I would say that AI is pretty darn good! A couple of examples (one from my own experience): - I have used SAPI for voice recognition in speech recognition software[^] I have written and the accuracy is fairly amazing. SAPI will learn from mistakes and the more it is used the better it becomes at word recognition. - I also believe that the google driverless car[^] is going to be quite something. So all in all I think AI really is doing very well - if you leave out the 'conciousness' part which has puzzled even some of the most insightful Buddhist monks who have spent years in caves studying their own minds through meditation... I am guessing though that you have something specific in mind.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
GuyThiebaut wrote:
If by intelligence you mean the ability to make decisions quickly, accurately and learn from mistakes then I would say that AI is pretty darn good!
I'm not sure the speed it comes to that decision matters for determining intelligence (though it may help place it on a relative scale of how intelligent it is), but I agree otherwise. A system I developed for work is like that. I wasn't intending to do anything with AI, nor do I have much knowledge in that field (an interest, but I haven't put much effort into it), but it just sort of came together that way. It's not particularly advanced AI either, but it takes some input, finds a way to describe it, and uses that description to find similar data. When it fails, it can be shown more data, adjusts its description, and tries again. It's surprisingly effective, and does a task that previously had to be done by a human.
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
If by intelligence you mean the ability to make decisions quickly, accurately and learn from mistakes then I would say that AI is pretty darn good!
I'm not sure the speed it comes to that decision matters for determining intelligence (though it may help place it on a relative scale of how intelligent it is), but I agree otherwise. A system I developed for work is like that. I wasn't intending to do anything with AI, nor do I have much knowledge in that field (an interest, but I haven't put much effort into it), but it just sort of came together that way. It's not particularly advanced AI either, but it takes some input, finds a way to describe it, and uses that description to find similar data. When it fails, it can be shown more data, adjusts its description, and tries again. It's surprisingly effective, and does a task that previously had to be done by a human.
What you describe sounds fascinating and if it were possible to write an article on it for CP, without revealing any intellectual property, I am sure it would be of interest to many people(I would certainly would be interested in reading more about it):thumbsup:
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I'm beginning to think that human intelligence is a myth!
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The definition of intelligence is 1.The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. Honestly from that meaning alone, I would say many systems, ones that were not even meant to be A.I., are in fact more intelligent than the average human. I am not joking here. Think about it. Think about what social networks currently do. They aquire knowledge about you and your network an aply skills of successful matching of advertising campaigns and further networking. There is not a human being on this planet that can do that more efficiently. I also have studied A.I. and there is plenty of it already out there. Maybe it does not meat your standards of being intellegent. But then again, maybe you just aren't very intelligent. So your standards are irrelevent.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Have you ever used neural networks i did, they dont learn they are just a mathematic code that adjust the output based on previows input-output examples and that is if the problem you want to solve can be mathematically modelled if not then neural networks is useless. My friend real inteligence cant have a mathematicall model so it cant be programmed.
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Vasily Tserekh wrote:
also my parents are russians and you REALLY know they are not stupids
Russians are just as capable of being stupid as the rest of the world, and smart parents can have stupid children, so I fail to see what point you're trying to make. (Not saying anything about you specifically either way, just that your point makes no sense.)
