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Microsoft Surface - it is now a tablet!

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    DaveAuld
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    Just been following the live feeds from the MS announcement. It is a tablet, website has been updated and youtube video is now up; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpzu3HM2CIo[^] http://www.microsoft.com/surface[^] Looks not bad really......... edit: the youtube video reminds me of Audi commercials......

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      Just been following the live feeds from the MS announcement. It is a tablet, website has been updated and youtube video is now up; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpzu3HM2CIo[^] http://www.microsoft.com/surface[^] Looks not bad really......... edit: the youtube video reminds me of Audi commercials......

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      Typical Microsoft… Claim it's new and different… it's not. Demo crashed. Over designed. Fairly ugly. Not available for months. No definite pricing.

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        Just been following the live feeds from the MS announcement. It is a tablet, website has been updated and youtube video is now up; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpzu3HM2CIo[^] http://www.microsoft.com/surface[^] Looks not bad really......... edit: the youtube video reminds me of Audi commercials......

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        Espen Harlinn
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        DaveAuld wrote:

        Looks not bad really.........

        http://www.microsoft.com/surface/[^] gave me 'Unexpected error occured' :rolleyes: Here is a more information[^]

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          DaveAuld wrote:

          Looks not bad really.........

          http://www.microsoft.com/surface/[^] gave me 'Unexpected error occured' :rolleyes: Here is a more information[^]

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          Spec sheet available [^]

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            Typical Microsoft… Claim it's new and different… it's not. Demo crashed. Over designed. Fairly ugly. Not available for months. No definite pricing.

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            Used to be called vapourware, these days it includes hardware and is a standard part of the marketing procedure. This is one for fanbois everywhere!

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              Wow! All 9 of them… :rolleyes: I wonder what made Microsoft announce this now… say versus 2-3 months when they might be able to sell them or even give a simple price.

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                Used to be called vapourware, these days it includes hardware and is a standard part of the marketing procedure. This is one for fanbois everywhere!

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                Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                these days it includes hardware and is a standard part of the marketing procedure.

                Not really… anymore when Apple, Dell, Sony, HP, etc… announce hardware it's usually available immediately or VERY soon.

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                  Wow! All 9 of them… :rolleyes: I wonder what made Microsoft announce this now… say versus 2-3 months when they might be able to sell them or even give a simple price.

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                  In the press release it was said the RT version would be prices in the "other tablet" ballpark and the Pro version in the "UltraPC Notebook" ballpark...so $400-$500 and $800-$900 ranges :confused:

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                    In the press release it was said the RT version would be prices in the "other tablet" ballpark and the Pro version in the "UltraPC Notebook" ballpark...so $400-$500 and $800-$900 ranges :confused:

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                    Ummm… I see tablets ranging from $199 - $900 and Ultrabooks ranging from $700 - $1200. I say - If its close enough to call a press conference and demo / announce a new product its close enough to put a real, honest price on it - not an implied vague range. How difficult is that?

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                      In the press release it was said the RT version would be prices in the "other tablet" ballpark and the Pro version in the "UltraPC Notebook" ballpark...so $400-$500 and $800-$900 ranges :confused:

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                      Steve Mayfield wrote:

                      $400-$500 and $800-$900 ranges :confused:

                      At those prices, Microsoft can go elephant themselves. The "Surface" is elephanted even before it is born.... not a bad achievement! I expect to see a huge demand for warehouse space where unsold "Surface"s will be stored ceiling-high. Anyone remember Zune, the original version? And what an ugly screen! It looks like the classic 15-puzzle. You know, where you have a 4x4 row with 15 tiles and one empty space and you move those tiles around till you get the numbers in sequence.

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                        Just been following the live feeds from the MS announcement. It is a tablet, website has been updated and youtube video is now up; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpzu3HM2CIo[^] http://www.microsoft.com/surface[^] Looks not bad really......... edit: the youtube video reminds me of Audi commercials......

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                        What WAS called Surface is now called PixelSense. Apparently, they changed the name around to make room for the slate to be called Surface. I think there's a lot of details to be released, but it may turn out to be a pretty good slate. I think the real "killer app" for this new machine would have been if it actually ran Surace 2.0 (PixelSense). Now THAT would be really cool!

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                          Steve Mayfield wrote:

                          $400-$500 and $800-$900 ranges :confused:

                          At those prices, Microsoft can go elephant themselves. The "Surface" is elephanted even before it is born.... not a bad achievement! I expect to see a huge demand for warehouse space where unsold "Surface"s will be stored ceiling-high. Anyone remember Zune, the original version? And what an ugly screen! It looks like the classic 15-puzzle. You know, where you have a 4x4 row with 15 tiles and one empty space and you move those tiles around till you get the numbers in sequence.

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                          The screen is because of W8 - I'm not a fan of the Metro UI - I really hope there is a "switch to classic" mode...or someone comes out with a WinXP type shell replacement like they with Win7 ... which it looks like they have [^] :cool:

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                            Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                            these days it includes hardware and is a standard part of the marketing procedure.

                            Not really… anymore when Apple, Dell, Sony, HP, etc… announce hardware it's usually available immediately or VERY soon.

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                            I hate micro brain univoters - fixed! I guess it is just MS then, I seem to have seen this throughout it's history. Don't apple pre announce, pre sell their icrap stuff or are they imminent deliverables.

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              I hate micro brain univoters - fixed! I guess it is just MS then, I seem to have seen this throughout it's history. Don't apple pre announce, pre sell their icrap stuff or are they imminent deliverables.

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              With hardware Apple plays this game... Leak hints to un-named sources and let the fanbois foam at the mouths for a few months building hype. When they finally announce it, they have exact pricing and deliverables ready to go. Then ship dates lengthen to create "shortages" and more hype. Microsoft on the other hand could screw up a one horse funeral.

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                                Steve Mayfield wrote:

                                $400-$500 and $800-$900 ranges :confused:

                                At those prices, Microsoft can go elephant themselves. The "Surface" is elephanted even before it is born.... not a bad achievement! I expect to see a huge demand for warehouse space where unsold "Surface"s will be stored ceiling-high. Anyone remember Zune, the original version? And what an ugly screen! It looks like the classic 15-puzzle. You know, where you have a 4x4 row with 15 tiles and one empty space and you move those tiles around till you get the numbers in sequence.

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                                Vivic wrote:

                                It looks like the classic 15-puzzle. You know, where you have a 4x4 row with 15 tiles and one empty space and you move those tiles around till you get the numbers in sequence.

                                I think you're confusing something else with Zune. I've two zunes (since 2008), and it doesn't have a tiled UI. :~ While I agree with the rest of your post, zune is an excellent product.

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                                  Vivic wrote:

                                  It looks like the classic 15-puzzle. You know, where you have a 4x4 row with 15 tiles and one empty space and you move those tiles around till you get the numbers in sequence.

                                  I think you're confusing something else with Zune. I've two zunes (since 2008), and it doesn't have a tiled UI. :~ While I agree with the rest of your post, zune is an excellent product.

                                  "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                  Oops, my bad! II said two things. First, the 15-puzzle. Second, how the original Zune was a clunker compared to the sleek iPod. I didn't make myself clear on the second point. Merely pointed out that the iPad looks better and had better functionality just like the iPod did.:rose:

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                                    Oops, my bad! II said two things. First, the 15-puzzle. Second, how the original Zune was a clunker compared to the sleek iPod. I didn't make myself clear on the second point. Merely pointed out that the iPad looks better and had better functionality just like the iPod did.:rose:

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                                    Vivic wrote:

                                    iPad looks better and had better functionality just like the iPod did.

                                    What 'better functionality' does ipod have in comparison with zune? I've used both, and I can't understand your statement. Zune has blazing fast UI, and all the functionality that ipod had to offer (minus the crapware itunes). Just too sad that zune wasn't as much a hit. But hey, an 'ipod' is supposed to be cool, right?!

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                                      Vivic wrote:

                                      iPad looks better and had better functionality just like the iPod did.

                                      What 'better functionality' does ipod have in comparison with zune? I've used both, and I can't understand your statement. Zune has blazing fast UI, and all the functionality that ipod had to offer (minus the crapware itunes). Just too sad that zune wasn't as much a hit. But hey, an 'ipod' is supposed to be cool, right?!

                                      "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                                      No need to get hot under the collar. That is why I offered a rose in my last reply. I am NOT an Apple fanboi. I have not owned a single Apple product in my life. Any portable player I use, I load the music I want from CDs. I don't buy it off some iTunes store. Now, does that make you feel better? PS. Read the reviews at the time the Zune was originally released.

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                                        No need to get hot under the collar. That is why I offered a rose in my last reply. I am NOT an Apple fanboi. I have not owned a single Apple product in my life. Any portable player I use, I load the music I want from CDs. I don't buy it off some iTunes store. Now, does that make you feel better? PS. Read the reviews at the time the Zune was originally released.

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                                        Vivic wrote:

                                        No need to get hot under the collar.
                                         
                                        That is why I offered a rose in my last reply.

                                        I wasn't hot under the collar. I was merely pointing out that you had mistaken something else for zune. :~

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                                        I am NOT an Apple fanboi.
                                         
                                        I have not owned a single Apple product in my life. Any portable player I use, I load the music I want from CDs. I don't buy it off some iTunes store.
                                         
                                        Now, does that make you feel better?

                                        Why should that make me feel 'better'? I couldn't care less, anyway. Like I said, I was merely pointing out that you were wrong with some of your assumptions about a product - zune.

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                                          What WAS called Surface is now called PixelSense. Apparently, they changed the name around to make room for the slate to be called Surface. I think there's a lot of details to be released, but it may turn out to be a pretty good slate. I think the real "killer app" for this new machine would have been if it actually ran Surace 2.0 (PixelSense). Now THAT would be really cool!

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                                          Pixel Sense is a smart technology, using a 4th Pixel which can 'see' (the other pixels being the conventional RGB). It would be a cool to see this on their tablet device.

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